In post 924, dsjstr wrote:You seemed fairly enthusiastic about a coinflip. Why are you backing out right before it could potentially and most likely happen.
At first, I thought you were a noob with blinders on who was going to delay the town victory.
Now I'm concerned you might cost us the game even if I die because you trust clidd too much, and I'm hopeful you can turn around your wrong assumptions.
Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.
If the coin kills me, clidd has a chance of playing in your head like he's doing now and make us both lose.
We need to talk about Mohab and clidd and evaluate everything from the beginning over the next two weeks. I can't let you lose the game for town without working my ass off to help us all win.
Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.
If you look at clidd-scum's posts, he looks pretty convincing. He's good at playing scum.
Do you disagree?
Why was this focused how well I thought he played a scum role? You said that you are worried by how much I trust clidd, this wouldn't be an attempt to create a fight between us?
I don't care if I die but if you make two poor decisions in a row, we all lose. This is a worse-case scenario that we can't afford and must exhaust every possible option before risking.
Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.
How was I proven at the point where you said I was 100%, the three of us seemed uncertain of what mohab would do. You two said that it's up to mohab and I implied I agreed which came after your comment that I was 100%.
In post 455, dsjstr wrote:Being in a 1 v 3 might not be as good as it sounds. Who ever the mafia is will kill someone from group 2 because of all the lynchbait in group 3. They will probably divide the 3 into separate groups which will lead us to imploding in on ourselves. Even if the person from group 2 is town how likely is it that the right bait is lynched? We need to stop talking about lynching based on the setup and start solving. No reason to rush this. UNVOTE:
I'm 100% convinced dsjstr is town with posts like this.
Mohab is also 100% town.
It's game over and town wins no matter if I die or you die today clidd.
You mean when I quoted you here?
This is a post only a townie would make.
Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.
You think that I chose a distribution of 2/1/0 leaving an option to lynch group 3 who were all town, but all I did all of day 1 was tunnel on group 1 with my 2 buddies inside.
Then, I had one townie (MorningTweet) who believed so strongly I was town that she put group 1 at L-1 for me to prove I wouldn't hammer.
All of this while doing zero scumhunting. At any point in time I could have been the one everyone voted for.
Now if I thought I could lynch group 1 and get everyone to self-vote, why didn't I just put my scumbuddies in groups 2 and 3 instead of group 1? Why didn't I do 1/1/1? Why not keep MorningTweet or someone that I can persuade in the endgame with me?
Anyways, so then Day 2 comes. Clidd townreads me from day 1. I scumread mohab from day 1. But the optimal scum strategy for me here is to write a very clear case on the one person townreading me? And then after he flips town, I have to convince the guy I was attacking and you to vote for each other?
Does this plan make sense to you as scum?
Now how about from a town perspective. I correctly guess most of the scum are in group 1 and tunnel it in order to outWIFOM the scum with zero scumhunting effort. I try to convince people I'm not leading a 1/1/1 scumteam to appease the paranoia. I am proven correct and deduce the last scum day 3 no matter if it's inconvenient for my survival or not. And here we are talking now.
So which makes more sense? Explain to me.
Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.
I need to sleep I can do better tomorrow if you request...
D1 if you were scum you go for g1, it disassociates you from the other two that are in it. D2 you know that mafia wouldn't lose but your performance proving it is not 1-1-1 makes you look like town. You get clidd lynched. You get either me or Mohab lynched, wtf would mafia put themself not in group two. Well they have 10+ years of experience and they think they can get clidd lynched.
D1 as town based on the setup which you called shit or something like that, you make an assumption that g1 obviously has more than one mafia. If there are three you win if its two you get to D2. D2 you scum hunt because you are the best scum hunter on the site.
