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Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 10:33 am
by farside22
In post 923, unwnd wrote:Starbuck i just feel like you're covering all angles in ways it's hard to determine where your priorities lie
It's a catch up post. It just talks about things a player notes during the game as they catch up. Responding to one thing, reading onto other things. The constant was Abr as scum.
What angles do you see her covering?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 11:08 am
by beeboy
If you nominate me and I die spring gets to be chain leader a second time. Confirm with the mod yourself if you want.

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 12:01 pm
by midwaybear
Do we really want spring to be leader? But on the other hand, can't scum always just NK the nominated chain leader so technically spring could always be leader. That would sorta be broken because if spring was scum, she would be untouchable.

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 12:02 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 917, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 914, springlullaby wrote:
In post 909, Pink Ball wrote:The good news is, after a lot of chain movement, we're still getting content and no stalling. At least one scum is outside the chain right now and that's good
Why do you think at least one scum is outside of the chain?
'Cause if every scum were safe they could shut up and let town fuck things up
This still doesn't make sense since most people in this game are town and can continue to talk

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 12:10 pm
by Pink Ball
Different pace

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 1:02 pm
by springlullaby
In post 926, beeboy wrote:If you nominate me and I die spring gets to be chain leader a second time. Confirm with the mod yourself if you want.
@Mod, please confirm the above.

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 1:06 pm
by springlullaby
In post 907, Starbuck wrote:Spring is also bulletproof. If Spring is town, it makes total sense for them to put themselves on the quiz team for that reason alone.
This also bring up a point I have not thought of.

@mod: what happens if a quiz team member is nk'd? Does the quiz fail?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 1:09 pm
by unwnd
In post 925, farside22 wrote:
In post 923, unwnd wrote:Starbuck i just feel like you're covering all angles in ways it's hard to determine where your priorities lie
It's a catch up post. It just talks about things a player notes during the game as they catch up. Responding to one thing, reading onto other things. The constant was Abr as scum.
What angles do you see her covering?
Yes but what effectively do those catchups do? My bias may be in play but when I'm scum and I have nothing to talk about (see: hard to fake enthusiasm) I'll just cover myself by talking about multiple things even if they don't mean anything in the long run. It's just little things I notice. There's a cursory glance here and there from Starbuck but you're right the only thing certain about her posts is that she doesn't like ABR.

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 1:11 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 931, springlullaby wrote:@mod: what happens if a quiz team member is nk'd? Does the quiz fail?
The setup would be impossible if it worked like that

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 1:14 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 913, SirCakez wrote:
In post 907, Starbuck wrote:Why not me? Why not Raya? Why not Dunn?

Why not unwnd? Why not ND? Why not midway?

You say a lot but you don't give your whys.
I've talked about you, and Raya and Dunn don't feel like they've earned any sort of TR for me.
I'm uncertain about most people this game tbf
That's cool

None of us are getting lynched today though

What do you think about Pink Ball, unwnd, and TSE?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 1:15 pm
by unwnd
In post 870, midwaybear wrote:i didn't really TR anyone else besides you, Cakez, and beeboy. Apparently we are saving Cakez(and beeboy now) to be on the end of the chain so I gave it to you. Pink Ball and ND are sorta swingy reads, but they are more townie than TSE, unwnd, farside, starbuck to me.
pedit: I'm gonna check that out
Did something ever come of this midway lol

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 1:16 pm
by Dunnstral
By the way:
In post 2, MariaR wrote:2) The Chainleader will be bulletproof for the night and cannot be the chain leader on consecutive days.

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 1:18 pm
by SirCakez
In post 918, Starbuck wrote:Well, you aren't getting that today. Who else do you scum read besides your tunnel on me?
Not even tunneling
I could lynch TSE or maybbeee ABR
I have a lot of nulls

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 1:19 pm
by SirCakez
In post 934, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 913, SirCakez wrote:
In post 907, Starbuck wrote:Why not me? Why not Raya? Why not Dunn?

Why not unwnd? Why not ND? Why not midway?

You say a lot but you don't give your whys.
I've talked about you, and Raya and Dunn don't feel like they've earned any sort of TR for me.
I'm uncertain about most people this game tbf
That's cool

None of us are getting lynched today though

What do you think about Pink Ball, unwnd, and TSE?
TSE can go
PB doesn't feel at all like my previous town games with him but he says he's not playing as Silver Bullet so maybe that's why?
Unwnd I need to review

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 1:31 pm
by midwaybear
In post 935, unwnd wrote:Did something ever come of this midway lol
not really lol
I guess it was interesting that TSE thought it was you pocketing me instead of him. I feel like scum are more self aware than that, but he does seem to be the player who would make a move like that.

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 1:54 pm
by Pink Ball
@SirCakez have we ever had other towngames together other than Greatest Idea?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 1:58 pm
by SirCakez
Flying Scumsman?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 1:59 pm
by Starbuck
In post 922, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 907, Starbuck wrote:
In post 504, springlullaby wrote:Here what I know about the team:

1) The quiz team size for tonight is 5 players.
2) All players on the quiz team get to pass or fail the quiz, by PM to the mod.
3) If the quiz is passed, town gain a unspecified advantage.
4) If the quiz is failed, scum gain a unspecified advantage.
5) All quiz team member must pass the quiz, for the quiz to be passed.
6) If no quiz team can be formed, scum gain an unspecified advantage.
I voted to approve because given the above criteria, I am not giving scum any advantages and I really need to see that vote count of who voted against (aside from ABR throwing his tantrum and comparing me to Marie Antoinette). I also like this list (even with myself included) because it's full of level-headed players that aren't over the top incendiary.
In post 511, farside22 wrote:I wanted to stay out of the unwnd/tse back and forth because as a player I personally don't like TSE play style. So i feel bias.
I wanted a second opinion from a few other whom maybe knows him better and maybe put a brief pause on the antagonism.
So for anyone who know tse is it like him to find everything little thing a player say as scummy?
Example is post 492 about unwnd listing 3 players and tse calling it a scum slip when other players have listed 2-4 players when asked.
+1 I'd also appreciate a breakdown of TSE.


And now we're getting into ABR's tantrum and authoritarianism. I thought he wanted a democracy?

In post 563, SirCakez wrote:I think I'm gonna stop reading TSE posts

I really dislike that quiz team, Starbuck, Raya and Dunn are not good choices. I want to reject it if a different one can be formed.
In post 523, springlullaby wrote:Ok to lynch: sircakez, unwnd, NDmath, midwaybear
This list even excluding me is not great
In post 558, beeboy wrote:Dunnstral
Cakez
Pinkball
Raya
TSE

that was my team.
TSE is a stubborn guy but that doesn't change his role card.
why tse?
Why not me? Why not Raya? Why not Dunn?

Why not unwnd? Why not ND? Why not midway?

You say a lot but you don't give your whys.

In post 570, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 567, springlullaby wrote:OK, stop. HAVE YOU READ THAT DENYING THE QUIZ TEAM IS AN AUTOMATIC ADVANTAGE FOR SCUM?
I dont give a single fuck about that! My scumhunting is so good i need a handicap!
He's so scum, it hurts me.
In post 575, farside22 wrote:I don't know why ABR doesn't want to a possible garentee to his scum reads being put in the quiz.
I would love to know if I'm on the right track with Star or Raya.

How about if you don't like the propsal and I'm curious about Star we keep her, take out me and add cakez to the mix of SL's list.
In all honesty, I'm glad to be on a quiz team with you to prove you aren't on the right track and have a legit way to do it.
In post 582, beeboy wrote:I dont think the team gets lynch immunity its only the chain leader.
No, the chain leader is bulletproof for the night. It's why it makes sense to me that spring put themselves on the quiz team. Why waste that?
In post 596, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 550, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 546, farside22 wrote:
In post 541, Albert B. Rampage wrote:deny it boys this is a bad team
It's a great way to use some scum hunting in a whole other way.
So why deny it?
I just thought of 2 good ways it works.
I dont want farside or starbuck or slringlullaby on the quiz team
Spring is the chain leader so I don’t see them changing it.
Spring is also bulletproof.
If Spring is town
, it makes total sense for them to put themselves on the quiz team for that reason alone.

Doesn’t matter if Spring Is Town or Scum.
It’s the same result.
Why are you bringing that up?
In post 923, unwnd wrote:Starbuck i just feel like you're covering all angles in ways it's hard to determine where your priorities lie
In post 925, farside22 wrote:
In post 923, unwnd wrote:Starbuck i just feel like you're covering all angles in ways it's hard to determine where your priorities lie
It's a catch up post. It just talks about things a player notes during the game as they catch up. Responding to one thing, reading onto other things. The constant was Abr as scum.
What angles do you see her covering?
In post 927, midwaybear wrote:Do we really want spring to be leader? But on the other hand, can't scum always just NK the nominated chain leader so technically spring could always be leader. That would sorta be broken because if spring was scum, she would be untouchable.
In post 932, unwnd wrote:
In post 925, farside22 wrote:
In post 923, unwnd wrote:Starbuck i just feel like you're covering all angles in ways it's hard to determine where your priorities lie
It's a catch up post. It just talks about things a player notes during the game as they catch up. Responding to one thing, reading onto other things. The constant was Abr as scum.
What angles do you see her covering?
Yes but what effectively do those catchups do? My bias may be in play but when I'm scum and I have nothing to talk about (see: hard to fake enthusiasm) I'll just cover myself by talking about multiple things even if they don't mean anything in the long run. It's just little things I notice. There's a cursory glance here and there from Starbuck but you're right the only thing certain about her posts is that she doesn't like ABR.

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 1:59 pm
by Starbuck
OMG, I gathered all my quotes and accidentally hit reply. Hang on.

Fuck me.

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 2:04 pm
by Pink Ball
In post 941, SirCakez wrote:Flying Scumsman?
And other than signing as Silver Bullet, did you feel like I was playing as straightforward and defying as in Greatest Idea?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 2:06 pm
by unwnd
In post 939, midwaybear wrote:
In post 935, unwnd wrote:Did something ever come of this midway lol
not really lol
I guess it was interesting that TSE thought it was you pocketing me instead of him. I feel like scum are more self aware than that, but he does seem to be the player who would make a move like that.
Gun to your head who's scum? Me? Both of us?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 2:07 pm
by Dunnstral
What are you guys talking about with Silver Bullet?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 2:14 pm
by Starbuck
In post 922, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Doesn’t matter if Spring Is Town or Scum.
It’s the same result.
Why are you bringing that up?
Why doesn't it matter? If spring is scum, they'll fail the quiz and give scum a leg up. They could also pass as scum to gain trust and bus. I'm not sure how I feel on spring because there's been some questionable actions from their direction. I'm not ruling out that they could be overwhelmed from being chainleader, but it is curious by any means.
In post 923, unwnd wrote:Starbuck i just feel like you're covering all angles in ways it's hard to determine where your priorities lie
That's kind of my goal when I catch up or I go back and do a re-read. I try to gleam what I may have missed the first time around. I feel much better after my re-read a few days ago and now with my catch up today. Do you need some examples of my past games where I had mega catch ups or anything? I think the majority are still in my Wiki if you need something to compare to.

In post 927, midwaybear wrote:Do we really want spring to be leader? But on the other hand, can't scum always just NK the nominated chain leader so technically spring could always be leader. That would sorta be broken because if spring was scum, she would be untouchable.
I feel like you didn't read the rules.
In post 932, unwnd wrote:
In post 925, farside22 wrote:
In post 923, unwnd wrote:Starbuck i just feel like you're covering all angles in ways it's hard to determine where your priorities lie
It's a catch up post. It just talks about things a player notes during the game as they catch up. Responding to one thing, reading onto other things. The constant was Abr as scum.
What angles do you see her covering?
Yes but what effectively do those catchups do? My bias may be in play but when I'm scum and I have nothing to talk about (see: hard to fake enthusiasm) I'll just cover myself by talking about multiple things even if they don't mean anything in the long run. It's just little things I notice. There's a cursory glance here and there from Starbuck but you're right the only thing certain about her posts is that she doesn't like ABR.
My guess is you haven't read a word that I've written or seen that I have questions for multiple people in those posts. For all that I haven't liked about him, SirCakez actually found my questions for him and responded. I, even in years past, try to condense multi-page catch ups into one bigger post rather than spam everyone.

In all actuality, though, I usually feel a lot better of knowing the goings-on after a big catch up like I did today (which took me the better part of 2-2.5 hours mind you) than when I'm in the midst of a back and forth keyboard war.

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 2:17 pm
by Pink Ball
In post 946, Dunnstral wrote:What are you guys talking about with Silver Bullet?
We played a Greatest Idea Mafia game where I was town and talked in third person calling myself Silver Bullet the entire game 'cause I fucked the werewolves, it was a gimmick, just me being all over the place as usual.

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 2:23 pm
by Raya36
Finally caught up. Not really commenting on much since it was over 10 pages.
In post 589, Albert B. Rampage wrote:heres a good group:
Farside
Lully
Me
Cakez
Beeboy

Boom.
This makes me sus of ABR. Based on a game with him and what other players have said about him he is quite strong as town. I don't think he would accidentally add Beeboy to the team proposal as town. He should know that Beeboy can't be on the team.


I think Spring is genuine in thinking that holding the chain until the quiz is sorted is pro-town. Although I don't agree I can see her point of view.

In post 711, midwaybear wrote:is beeboy going to be the designated second to last person?
He definitely should be to lower the risk of a misynch.

In post 803, Dunnstral wrote:I don't have PB as town
I don't either.