I will totally besmirch VCA - it is so easily manipulable for anyone who is competent at this game that it's shaky at best fmpov. Does it have no place in analysis, no, but is it anywhere near reliable absolutely not
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:15 am
by the worst
I'm fine besmirching vca as well because I'm not particularly good at divining stuff from it; Titus is so I'll gladly outsource. but ya I'm finding shitty reasons to policy elim someone who I think is scum over other people I scumread. :{
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:15 am
by the worst
soupbowl is my #1 townread I think
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:20 am
by Gypyx
not gonna lie, i don't like any of the top wagons, but at the same time i feel like i can't make any good thought about the game, so i'm just gonna go on looker given that the IC's are here, and that i'm not a fan of policy lynches VOTE: looker
you are allowed to call me an idiot
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:37 am
by osuka
so why would you choose to elim looker over truth d1, tw? why is truth any better?
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:45 am
by the worst
because then they arent around to sort later
not opposed to looker elim
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:45 am
by the worst
nvm fairly certain Gypyx is town
I'll bbl, gotta work
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:54 am
by Nepenthes
Is it important what discourse we have around Truth as long as the conclusion to elim them is reached
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:54 am
by Nepenthes
Also where did they go
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:58 am
by Nepenthes
In post 888, osuka wrote:overly defensive about the paranoia bullshit which, frankly, comes more often from town than it does from scum (because scum don't have to worry about being pocketed at all and manipulated nearly as much as town), and the fact that he hasn't pointed that out yet is frankly puzzling
Are you saying its puzzling that looker hasnt pointed out themself that their own paranoia should be a towntell
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:01 pm
by Nepenthes
In post 929, Gypyx wrote:not gonna lie, i don't like any of the top wagons, but at the same time i feel like i can't make any good thought about the game, so i'm just gonna go on looker given that the IC's are here, and that i'm not a fan of policy lynches VOTE: looker
you are allowed to call me an idiot
Why were you considering Dunn earlier
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:06 pm
by Gypyx
I had some previous scumpings on him
(i can mention the fact that he tries to justify the bugspray lynch afterwards without any outside reason)
and the fact that suspicion kinda slided off him without any of his posts striking me as towny
(might be cuz i can't read shit)
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:11 pm
by Nepenthes
Generally suspicion falling off isnt cause to think scum unless theres evidence the players buddies are actively (or passively) taking the heat off the player
But agree gypyx town
In post 1850, Looker wrote:I don't understand Dunnstral's request to self-meta. When I'm scum I'm scum and when I'm town I'm town.
Your playstyle in this game is similar to our last game I saw you in, where you were mafia
Looker, you ask why I'm wondering about this, right? I can't differentiate your current play from the game you were mafia in.
What I'm saying to you is that, until you say "I've looked at games where you were town and games where you were scum, and this game most closely resembles the games wherein you were scum", I don't find your observation useful.
"I don't find your observation useful." That's very funny to me, and a common sentiment in most of my games.
Why does superbowl think his logic is better than everyone else's? Also, I don't get his argument about votes being too "data-driven". Is this a scum complaint that we're not falling for his bullshit?
He says "pull a looker" as if it's a bad thing, but then agrees with me. Philosophically, superbowl should not be voting me. Mathematically, superbowl should not be voting me.
Well that's a fucking scumclaim if I ever saw one.
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:44 pm
by Looker
yeah yeah yeah whatever
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:45 pm
by chkflip
You understand you hammered under the pretense of "I need to survive" y/n
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:45 pm
by Looker
Do you mean like bugspray...?
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:46 pm
by chkflip
I hammered bugspray because we had three house left in phase.
This isn't the same thing.
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:48 pm
by Looker
No one cares about you. I thought you were arguing survivalism = scum. There's a bit more to this than survivalism, though.
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:54 pm
by Looker
whoosh
Also. Gypyx said that he hated policy elims and that the ICs were voting me. They weren't. Superbowl and osuka were voting me. The ICs were voting Truth.
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:27 pm
by Looker
Dunnstral,
Nash
chkflip,
redtea
nepenthes, and
overkill
Titus are going to make it to endgame at this rate