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Because Marquis was kinda garbage and I didn't want that slot to live very long.

I don't think "I personally want to eliminate this slot" is enough reason for them to claim if they're not about to get yeeted. Do you?

Anyway, happy with the replace-in because I am... actually kind of decent at reading A50, I think.

The only reason why the slot avoided a claim is because of lurkerdom. Persistence in not playing isn’t an excuse to not claim.

I am trying to keep track of what's being posted since the point I replaced in. I don't see a response to my questions. I see a lot of assertion that we have a redirector.

To make it easier for everyone I'll re-ask:

1- Do we have any claims other than mine?
2- What is the case on the Gypx guy?

1. No

2. It’s Ico’s baby so he should probably answer.

In post 919, word321 wrote:So unless we r on the scenario that it lands exactly on a scum and scum dsnt have or dsnt want to use the redirector, every single other one is useless

doesn't even have to be redirector, scum could also have roleblocker or jailkeeper to stop a scum kill, in the already unlikely event that A50 is both town and pointed in the right direction.

even if we don't execute A50 today, i don't think we should try to direct his shot. if he's scum, he can easily ignore the direction if it doesn't suit them, and if he's town, it's better that scum don't know whether they should interfere with his shot or not.

In post 926, Umlaut wrote:I don't think "I personally want to eliminate this slot" is enough reason for them to claim if they're not about to get yeeted. Do you?

I mean, it's enough for me to want the claim. He didn't have to oblige me without asking for broader support.

In post 930, iamausername wrote:even if we don't execute A50 today, i don't think we should try to direct his shot. if he's scum, he can easily ignore the direction if it doesn't suit them, and if he's town, it's better that scum don't know whether they should interfere with his shot or not.

But scum always would want to interfere with it, right? Unless they think A50's aim is so bad that he'll shoot someone who's being townread.

Maybe he'll shoot an important PR, but hey, if we leash him we can make sure to prevent that.

In post 932, Something_Smart wrote: But scum always would want to interfere with it, right?

not if they know for a fact that it's targeting town

because we told them

that's like the whole point

In post 928, Almost50 wrote:assertion

is A50 the new marq

In post 917, word321 wrote:Am I the only one that dislikes the idea of a 1-shot vigilante entirely?
Particularly, I find a PGO way more townie, but that may be only my opinion and not alignment indicative by itself; but there r so many variables with scum prs in general and the raw odds of actually hitting town with that one shot its not even funny, even if we dnt consider the possibility of scum

you are yeah

A50 was literally a scum PGO the last time he played this setup PGO is much more likely to hit a tpr than a scumbag

well I'm utterly indifferent about that claim and would pick scum vig and I'm surprised more people haven't picked scum vig historically

tend to think that someone in the mindset of a vigilante hoping to blast scum at night probably tends towards paying more attention to the game as well

In post 128, Marquis wrote:zzzz this already looks boring ill deal with things later

this remains a fairly improbable town post I think?
am I confbiasing?
should I just revote A50?
help

In post 937, the worst wrote: should I just revote A50?
help

yes

In post 933, iamausername wrote:not if they know for a fact that it's targeting town

why not? it's still pro-town to eliminate likely mis-executions down the line.

VOTE: A50 you've been a great help thank you

This is quite a low policy elim equity plist

I totally forgot how this setup worked, but now I remember. Nobody tell me what to do. Not whom to shoot and certainly not WHEN to do it. It's not just the redirector (who -btw- could interfere even if I was directed to shoot town, just to make it appear like I didn't follow the direction thus shading both myself and the original target). On top of the redirector there's the possibility of a 1-shot Commuter, a Roleblocker, a Scum Doctor or a JK, all of which can interfere with my shot.

So, let's keep it at this: I may or may not shoot tonight, and if I do it's someone of my own choice. That way if a redirector exists and wants to be on me the other TPR are guaranteed their results to -at least- be on their intended targets. If Scum want to block me then other TPRs will have their actions going through... etc, and there's no guarantee that I;m even going to shoot at all, so their redirection/RB'ing is a waste (especially the redirection which is 1-shot)

sniff sniff

anyone else smell the magnificent cologne of desperation?

In post 935, the worst wrote:

In post 917, word321 wrote:Am I the only one that dislikes the idea of a 1-shot vigilante entirely?
Particularly, I find a PGO way more townie, but that may be only my opinion and not alignment indicative by itself; but there r so many variables with scum prs in general and the raw odds of actually hitting town with that one shot its not even funny, even if we dnt consider the possibility of scum

you are yeah

A50 was literally a scum PGO the last time he played this setup PGO is much more likely to hit a tpr than a scumbag

Can you link me to that game? I tried to find it in my own threads but could only find one where I was a VT (and replaced out !!!)

In post 942, Almost50 wrote:On top of the redirector there's the possibility of a 1-shot Commuter, a Roleblocker, a Scum Doctor or a JK, all of which can interfere with my shot.

I'm perfectly content to see your shot interfered with by any of these. Remember that for the most part scum PR's have to claim their true role pair, so that combined with interference in a shot is likely going to be outing.

In post 940, the worst wrote:VOTE: A50 you've been a great help thank you

YW

@tw: I am never getting mad at you for SRing me in ANY game. You can keep on doing this in the next million games we meet in and then see how many of them you've been spot on.

And the reason is I to shake your confidence in your ability to read me correctly. That should give me leverage over you when I do roll scum.