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like literally that's how i'm seeing it rn

"oh he isn't changing his mind? he isn't REASSESSING AT ALL and it's scum"

In post 922, Ydrasse wrote:omgggg pooky have you considered the fact that you maybe the stuff your posting isn't changing his mind like i feel like you're conflating "re-evaluating" as "must townread me" or something

i wasn't even talking about the stuff I was posting Ydra

there's more than just 2 people playing the game.

In post 926, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 922, Ydrasse wrote:omgggg pooky have you considered the fact that you maybe the stuff your posting isn't changing his mind like i feel like you're conflating "re-evaluating" as "must townread me" or something

i wasn't even talking about the stuff I was posting Ydra

there's more than just 2 people playing the game.

thats the Vibe i'm getting from all this

that's not even what I said...

i know im speaking of my vibes

In post 924, Infinity 324 wrote:I wouldn't think this is scum-indicative necessarily but it might be when I was getting on everyone's case about not TRing me. It's easier to just call me town there (esp when pooky has recent experience with scum!me that was very different from here)

PEdit: consistent reads across like 2 RL days isn't really scummy, PoE reads are also less likely to change than others

2 RL days when there's nothing going on in the game sure. but when your target is at E-1 and the person you think is most likely to be scum in the 3pool is voting for him don't you think you have to pump the brakes and think a bit considering how important the day 1 elimination is?

In post 894, Menalque wrote:Skitter and bingle why do you not want to eliminate infinity? And why is she still at the bottom for both of you?

Mechanically she's likely to be scum. I've talked about why I want to elim in the 6p first. I don't think internal pool solving is as valuable to the gamestate as crosspool interactions.

Mena how's this for a case:

Pooky scumreads me and townreads hectic for essentially the same reasons, when they have scum motivation to TR me and SR hectic. When you pick apart their hectic case, there isn't much there despite being very confident.

I'm not 100% sure any of that is actually scum-indicative but it's what I got

In post 930, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 924, Infinity 324 wrote:I wouldn't think this is scum-indicative necessarily but it might be when I was getting on everyone's case about not TRing me. It's easier to just call me town there (esp when pooky has recent experience with scum!me that was very different from here)

PEdit: consistent reads across like 2 RL days isn't really scummy, PoE reads are also less likely to change than others

2 RL days when there's nothing going on in the game sure. but when your target is at E-1 and the person you think is most likely to be scum in the 3pool is voting for him don't you think you have to pump the brakes and think a bit considering how important the day 1 elimination is?

Not if he thinks he's right

I would've (and did) unvoted you to not have you on E-1 but ydrasse and vander feel differently and they can't all be scum

In post 919, No Face wrote:Menalque and skitter both scumread as usual

(I smile but I am actually reasonably frustrated)

It’s almost like when u do a gimmick account it’s harder to read u and makes me think ur scummier

I'd probably win more towngames if I faked (reasons for my) reads as town tbh

Mena, you're looking at Vander saying both skitter and Bingle think he's town and that's suspicious. I posit to you that both skitter and Bingle think he's town, and arrived there on different trains. I invite you to look at each of our logics. Which of us do you think is wrong and why, because at least one of us is confirmed to have a town perspective while saying that.

In post 935, Infinity 324 wrote:I'd probably win more towngames if I faked (reasons for my) reads as town tbh

Maybe u should do that then

Starting now, hold me to it

no infinity

follow your heart

The problem with that is that sometimes I'll be forced to defend them and can't and I'll say the read is faked, someone's gonna go "omg u faked a read confscum"

In post 940, Ydrasse wrote:no infinity

follow your heart

You weren't the one quicklimmed on d1 because people thought catching scum on page 5 was a scummy thing to do

This is the easier path~

Sorry for spamming

no no keep GOING

In post 937, Menalque wrote:VOTE: norwee

Really?

Whyfore? Just because I townread him?

In post 930, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 924, Infinity 324 wrote:I wouldn't think this is scum-indicative necessarily but it might be when I was getting on everyone's case about not TRing me. It's easier to just call me town there (esp when pooky has recent experience with scum!me that was very different from here)

PEdit: consistent reads across like 2 RL days isn't really scummy, PoE reads are also less likely to change than others

2 RL days when there's nothing going on in the game sure. but when your target is at E-1 and the person you think is most likely to be scum in the 3pool is voting for him don't you think you have to pump the brakes and think a bit considering how important the day 1 elimination is?

But when bingle saw that you were in E-1 he unvoted.

So doesn't that counter what you're saying?...

Not really?

Pooky is saying that No Face not reading into my willingness to eliminate Pooky as a possible argument for PookyTown presents itself as proof that No Face isn't actually attempting to read Pooky.

Me unvoting Pooky could mean that I could be scum with Pooky FYPOV, but that doesn't particularly detract from the argument that Pooky is making because at the time that No Face started pushing Pooky I was the biggest proponent of the elimination. Using my unvote to justify the behavior that came before my unvote is backwards logic, unless you also want to argue that NF knew I was going to unvote.

Hence, both Pooky and No Face are fairly scummy. In the world where Pooky is town, he raises some valid points about No Face. In the world where No Face is town, there is still circumstantial evidence that flipping Pooky is a strong play.

Does someone want to towncase Y for me? I'm a bit gunshy on townreading her based on a genuine attempt to gamesolve D1 for reasons I can't go into atm, and would be grateful for explanation.

In post 924, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 917, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 916, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 914, Infinity 324 wrote:No face was not pushing to kill you when you started SRing him

ok what do you think he was pushing me for then?

All I remember is him stating that he thought you were likely scum by PoE. That is what I did when I voted no face and then you.

I wouldn't think this is scum-indicative necessarily but it might be when I was getting on everyone's case about not TRing me. It's easier to just call me town there (esp when pooky has recent experience with scum!me that was very different from here)

Jingle what do you think about this? I basically SRed pooky for the same reason as no face

In post 655, Ydrasse wrote:

VANDERS NO DON'T USE AN EXCLAMATION MARK OR I'M GONNA SCUMREAD YOU NO.

In post 672, Ydrasse wrote:
there are a few posts that i look back on in retrospect and feel very fake with how you're like... it was how you interacted with mena and it involved the usage of ! and i was like cool, it doesn't feel like faux-chipper energy and the like like it did there, like you're not forcing yourself this time

if that makes sense

This felt absurdly +town to me. I don't see scum thinking of a nuanced meta reason to TR vander and then posting something about it that no one understands, and only explaining when called out on it.