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[Save The Dragons]

in my head canon FMFT just went for it

[Gamma Emerald]

Then wouldn’t you think I at least get MY act together?

[Gamma Emerald]

Like, I could probably dig in my heel on FMFT’s play, but I think my play more so runs counter to your theory rn

[Save The Dragons]

how so

[Save The Dragons]

I want to add that you feel pretty partnery with FMFT right now, both based on their claim, your play around it, and both of your plays around these wagons

dunnstral agrees with me (at least about the partners part. i don't know if FMFT went YOLO POSTING SCUMBUDDY'S ROLE or if he talked about it with you)

[Gamma Emerald]

Look at how I flailed in response to kyouko’s push for more info on my role
Do you not think I would have AT LEAST figured out the rest of what I wanted my claim to be?

Gamma Emerald - lean scum but mostly just gut

Btw, what was informing this read, assuming you hadn’t created the association between me and FMFT yet?

[Gamma Emerald]

You also seem pretty damn sure of this “head canon”

[Noraa]

FMFT probably outed a partner’s result for them

it feels more likely that FMFT (perhaps unintentionally) screwed you over

Do you not think FMFT tries to run that by me in the scum PT first?

No not really. if he didn't do it purposefully, then no, he prolly didn't think it was an issue.

[Noraa]

right so FMFT was a goon. that means either theres a scum role cop and gamma is town.
Or gamma is just scum and they coordinated that in hopes of keeping fmft alive and now its backfiring really badly

[Noraa]

scum role cop and gamma town is suuuuuch a stretch tbh.

[Gamma Emerald]

Let’s note there’s a substantial period of time between the initial claim of Informed and the reveal of my role
So there was ABSOLUTELY a time where I would have been able to question him on his plans, were I scum with him.

[Noraa]

especially given thinking back on their interaction, it felt very hesitant.
I haven't read that interaction in a hot second but I do remember it felt super hesitant.
at the time I was wondering if town gamma was considering whether or not he should confirm. since cop enabler is an important role.
But if fmft is scum, thats different

[Save The Dragons]

we're starting to go off the rails with what ifs but if I think he blurted informed without consulting you why do you think you can convince me you could have had any sway on what he was doing after

[Gamma Emerald]

scum role cop and gamma town is suuuuuch a stretch tbh.

I’m thinking it was a scum informed that just wasn’t FMFT
I think this since my inclination is that scum are the ones who have the follower and rolecop+follower seems like too much
Think about this. My role is not a visiting role. Therefore a follower would never learn anything about it. Wouldn’t it make sense for there to be an informed aspect at that point?
Or maybe it’s some combo role, but THAT feels like pushing the boundaries of sense as well

[Gamma Emerald]

we're starting to go off the rails with what ifs but if I think he blurted informed without consulting you why do you think you can convince me you could have had any sway on what he was doing after

I could confirm or deny whether he intended to out any info about me in his claim, at least. Unless you think FMFT had literally gone insane, that was 100% doable.

[Noraa]

scum are the ones who have the follower

what?

[Noraa]

Unless you think FMFT had literally gone insane

I dont think thats the right way to put it. but I mean noob scum mistakes are quite simple to understand ...

[Gamma Emerald]

Town already has a cop and a backup cop. I don’t think a follower on town’s side really checks out as balanced on top of that. Plus I think my theory about informed + follower covering the spectrum of town’s power makes a lot of sense.

[JohnnyFarrar]

This tracks on a surface level

[Noraa]

Town already has a cop and a backup cop. I don’t think a follower on town’s side really checks out as balanced on top of that. Plus I think my theory about informed + follower covering the spectrum of town’s power makes a lot of sense.

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[Gamma Emerald]

I learned that x is a negative utility, y. I also learned that someone is role a. I knoe x y and a but not alignment of either.

It should be fine to claim. I was informed that part of gamma emeralds role is cop enabler. I was also infomed there is some role a in the setup but not the player or alignment. A is an unflippedrole.

There was a 12 hour time span between these posts

Luke was pointing right at kyouko most of the day yesterday, that's an obvious nightkill for kyouko scum

That is what happened upon me, as well.
Beyond that, I need time to regroup. I believe I’ve found my emblem of sorts for my current return to this site. It starts with these words:

Let it go, and move on.

I think I want to know why FMFT trusts me before okaying this elimination.

It kinda feels like virtue signaling?

Also feels a bit like you’re shading FMFT’s assertions, given they claimed some seemingly valuable info.

And I had posted these within that span of 12 hours. So there absolutely was time to get FMFT to reconsider if I were scum.

Can I also point out I didn’t try to take FMFT’s townread without questioning it thoroughly? I understand it probably would mean less if we were partners, but I actively considered FMFT suspicious based on such a clear being stated, because of my paranoia of scum getting info on my role.

Another thing, I think scum could also have a “cop enabler” finder rather than an Informed goon, as that is within normal parameters and can be a way of detecting my role, seeing as I think “person has this role” is a bit much for an Informed role to get.

[Save The Dragons]

there's not even a guarantee he wasn't lying about there being a follower but it could be his third scumbuddy

[Save The Dragons]

And I had posted these within that span of 12 hours. So there absolutely was time to get FMFT to reconsider if I were scum.

again i don't think it's a given that you are able to convince/control a player like FMFT

[Gamma Emerald]

in my head canon FMFT just went for it

Looking back I honestly think this contradicts the events in-thread

Also I activated my informed ability and learned 2 things. The first thing is that there is another player with the activated informed ability in the setup. The second thing I don't know if I want to share right now.

I learned that x is a negative utility, y. I also learned that someone is role a. I knoe x y and a but not alignment of either.

It should be fine to claim. I was informed that part of gamma emeralds role is cop enabler. I was also infomed there is some role a in the setup but not the player or alignment. A is an unflippedrole.

Does this look like he “just went for it”?

[Save The Dragons]

i mean you also later said this

Yeah I don’t think FMFT is scum atp
This radio silence makes no sense otherwise