Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:45 am
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i'm quoting emperor's post but this is aimed at everyone with experience with lilith: does she lose her nerves as scum? like i've been burned enough times by "haha lol emotions are townie" and i'm rethinking back to our interaction and i'm not sure i like it, so if anyone has scum vs town profiles on lilith in their mind, that would be lovelyIn post 803, The Emperor wrote:I don't like lilith's reaction to Datisi here. The level of frustration doesn't really feel appropriate, I think town!lilith should logically see why there's fingers being pointed her way. Like I get irl gets in the way or that motivation is low, but low motivation and lack of reads are scum indicative traits so what can you do, people are gonna suspect you for it.
>_>
er, what does this mean?In post 823, Fairy Circle wrote:Twin brother?In post 279, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Emperor what do you think about Datisi’s twin brother claiming they disagree on Datisi’s take on me?
That's cool. I have my own thoughts on their off threas discussion of the game
Desk 5In post 930, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Datisi quit bein lazy and get back to work.
aaaagh. the first one was a wagon of mastina, emperor, dwlee, norwee, as seen in 497. we have no way of knowing that's a full-town wagon (i onls have a townread on two of those 4, and even then my townreads can be wrong), but even if all 4 of them are town, that does not prove anything about bingle's alignment. the assumption that scum would definitely have jumped onto a wagon like that is... no.In post 833, mastina wrote:Evidence which adds up.
Bingle got to L-2, and with a fairly high chance of no scum on that wagon.
Bingle's claim is one that is incredibly likely to have come from scum.
Bingle's play here does not match any of his towngames for D1.
having played as scum in the last run of this setup, can confirm. this, coupled with the fact that town was aimlessly running around and causing damage, let us have three kills on n2, and town was basically in an unannounced 2v6 lylo on d2.In post 843, Bingle wrote:Scum should not actually kill a player tonight. Arsonist >> Goon. It's a pretty trivial understanding, but putting their shots into three separate players is better for scum because it denies us information right now and doesn't negatively impact their turns to win.
was there a point in posting this?In post 865, T3 wrote:GCB seems to have dropped off the face of the earth, still town though.
schadd r u ok
whyIn post 875, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Btw Mastina is town. Like 100% sure now.
the fuck am i readingIn post 894, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Mastina put in a lot of effort into this and i woyld do them dirty if i didn’t sheep them here. Especially with how much of an difficulty they had in killing me last game.
VOTE: Bingle
Like i said though, my sus slots are Bingle, Fairy Circle, RCE.
i went back to this game to check, i ctrl+f'ed "datisi" and "dats" in his iso, i was right that he was strongly townreading me on d1, but he definitely did not make a full blown case about it.In post 934, Green Cap Boys wrote:like, i'll be the first to say that i don't know bingle's meta that well and i've never seen him as scum, but even without doing any research i remember him having a decently strong townread on me on d1 in that jk9++ game (which, to be fair was over a year ago, but uh, working with what i remember right now).
Yep.In post 937, Green Cap Boys wrote:how is effort indicative of anything? does scum!mastina not effort?
In post 937, Green Cap Boys wrote:what's your read on bingle independently of mastina pushing him?
Nothing, really. I noticed your absence and commented about it.In post 936, Green Cap Boys wrote:having played as scum in the last run of this setup, can confirm. this, coupled with the fact that town was aimlessly running around and causing damage, let us have three kills on n2, and town was basically in an unannounced 2v6 lylo on d2.In post 843, Bingle wrote:Scum should not actually kill a player tonight. Arsonist >> Goon. It's a pretty trivial understanding, but putting their shots into three separate players is better for scum because it denies us information right now and doesn't negatively impact their turns to win.
i'm a bit tired so i'm glazing over the mechwall somewhat, but bingle's plan sounds alright. will let retti know to look over it for me later though.
was there a point in posting this?In post 865, T3 wrote:GCB seems to have dropped off the face of the earth, still town though.
schadd r u ok
i'm realizing how i'm scumreading both mastina and lilith, and how it would be kinda funny if they were scum together, because it feels like the only think mastina is talking about is how bingle is scum because scumslip, and the only thing lilith is talking about is how mastina is misunderstanding mechanics. if they're really both scum, i really wanna see that scum pt lmao
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I'm too lazy to cut the quote down.In post 915, Green Cap Boys wrote:how is this game *screaming* town!titus? i can see a townlean because she does vaguely remind me of some towngames, but i feel like "titus is doing something" isn't a good basis to read her on, so i'd like to hear why you think she's obvtown here (also for my own and everyone else's sanity, i am ignoring the second part of this post)In post 721, Fairy Circle wrote:Have you played with Titus before now? This is literally screaming townTitus
for the record i really disliked the "t3 is scum because trying to fuck with vca" but i can kinda see it coming from town!titus so whatever.
similar q, why is titus town? and why are these two maybes?In post 730, RCEnigma wrote:I was on the fence about committing to defending Titus tbh but after jumping around a bit I'm on board with town in Titus, norwee.
Maybe gcb and maybe emperor.
i think i'm thinking t3 is town? maybe it's the fact that i can actually follow his thought process now and it makes at least a little bit of sense, maybe it's the fact that i finally have my "automatically scumreading people with no avatar" bias removed. who knows.
i should at some point go back to my last game with scum!norwee for a sanity-check, but he's not getting yeeted today anyway so i have an excuse to procrastinate on that, yay
bottom of page 32, i need to go do something else for a bit because my brain is refusing to focus on this game further, will return Soon(tm).
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The point about Emperor I would think is more likely to come.from town.In post 943, RCEnigma wrote:I'm too lazy to cut the quote down.In post 915, Green Cap Boys wrote:how is this game *screaming* town!titus? i can see a townlean because she does vaguely remind me of some towngames, but i feel like "titus is doing something" isn't a good basis to read her on, so i'd like to hear why you think she's obvtown here (also for my own and everyone else's sanity, i am ignoring the second part of this post)In post 721, Fairy Circle wrote:Have you played with Titus before now? This is literally screaming townTitus
for the record i really disliked the "t3 is scum because trying to fuck with vca" but i can kinda see it coming from town!titus so whatever.
similar q, why is titus town? and why are these two maybes?In post 730, RCEnigma wrote:I was on the fence about committing to defending Titus tbh but after jumping around a bit I'm on board with town in Titus, norwee.
Maybe gcb and maybe emperor.
i think i'm thinking t3 is town? maybe it's the fact that i can actually follow his thought process now and it makes at least a little bit of sense, maybe it's the fact that i finally have my "automatically scumreading people with no avatar" bias removed. who knows.
i should at some point go back to my last game with scum!norwee for a sanity-check, but he's not getting yeeted today anyway so i have an excuse to procrastinate on that, yay
bottom of page 32, i need to go do something else for a bit because my brain is refusing to focus on this game further, will return Soon(tm).
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Initially I was looking at Titus' activity and engagement as town indicative. Also Scum!Titus that I remember is way more reactive than proactive which is how I feel Titus is playing here.
For example the hero solve whether you agree or not. Also I noticed before getting into any wagon analysis in 600 I thought they were throwing early wagons out to see what sticks and who bites on what which is less of a scum inclination and not a line I expect scum!Titus to take.
The caveat is like, if Bingle!scum then Titus!scum becomes a real possibility but I don't want to die a slow mechanics death so I won't think about it rn.
Gcb was mostly from the norwee engagements and emperor I had some (not mind meld) like.... We were going in the same direction so the processes were there if that makes sense. Also afaik you're both consensus townread and not high priority to sort today so I'm good just....not doing that too much.
you’ve explicitly stated you don’t have any actual reasons to scumread us other than poe. so why are you inviting others to join our wagon?In post 947, T3 wrote:Would you be willing to vote TLDNE wjith me?