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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:56 am
by T3
In post 924, Datisi wrote:
In post 919, T3 wrote:
In post 917, Datisi wrote:lol fuck lmfao

which game did you play with RC?
An offsite game, run by none other than shellyc.
ah, so that's where RC plays now? thanks
MU -> Partner Communities -> mafia.gg ->Mini Normal 2: Waterfalls

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:01 am
by Roden
In post 878, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 859, datsi wrote:It a sort of hitting-your-head-against-a-wall tone I feel like scum typically display when trying to sway an IC or pseudo-IC
tbh not trying to be mean but i find roden pretty annoying (just this game nothing personal) and i kind of vibed with Mew's sentiment myself so i don't see it as scummy. like i just don't really want to interact with him because he's just been dead set on voteparking me, claiming the only thing i do is AtE making it seem like im some super scum for that, taking potshots at me, calling me elim-bait etc. and ari just gets to sheep him because he's IC and i don't really feel like i can do anything about this situation. idk im in kind of a unique spot for him tho
You literally haven't even attempted to talk to me yet. Saying I'm annoying for making my case on you is just wild if you aren't going to do anything to convince me I'm wrong. Especially when all you've done is complain about Datisi and Margot.

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:03 am
by Roden
I genuinely don't understand why you and Mew are getting so offended about getting scum read in a game of Mafia? Like dude just fucking talk to me first at least.

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:09 am
by Aristeia
In post 910, Datisi wrote:is she telling lies there? because if not, i don't feel like prying about a potential alt is gonna net you any good

good catch on n_m though, @aristeia?


I realized it doesn't actually mean much for NM's alignment for Gamma to treat him that way, it says more about Gamma's alignment than NM's - I find the arguments made that NM is miller because he wouldn't claim miller as scum make some sense.

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:15 am
by datsi
VOTE: not_mafia
I reread his ISO and he gives me a vaguely similar vibe to 2226

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:18 am
by Roden
VOTE: NM

I don't even know anymore. Maybe he's just laying low since from his point of view the game went full TvT.

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:19 am
by Datisi
while i don't disagree, i feel like miller claim is at least somewhat town!indicative from n_m

thoughts on t3? on my thoughts on t3? i don't think you townread him, why ignore that in favour of n_m?

pedit: @gamma

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:23 am
by Not_Mafia
I'm town, y'all just boring

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:28 am
by Roden
Unless the exact scum team is Margot/Kyouko/T3, somebody's wrong/lying about their reads, because everyone else is either town read by multiple people or yelling at me for playing the game and scum reading them.

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:32 am
by Roden
In post 821, Mewtaph wrote: And Roden, you can discredit the people voting Margot but you know that calling that wagon the scum team is incredulous. Or maybe it's not, maybe you really think that all three of us are scum waging Margot but if you think that lol whatever.
This is kinda hypocritical in retrospect because this was exactly why T3 and Margot got paired up when they voted to put IV at E-1.

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:34 am
by Roden
VOTE: Margot

Kinda losing motivation this game tbh. Genuinely hope scum just kills me because this game is becoming so unnecessarily unfun.

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:38 am
by Roden
In post 926, Roden wrote:
In post 878, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 859, datsi wrote:It a sort of hitting-your-head-against-a-wall tone I feel like scum typically display when trying to sway an IC or pseudo-IC
tbh not trying to be mean but i find roden pretty annoying (just this game nothing personal) and i kind of vibed with Mew's sentiment myself so i don't see it as scummy. like i just don't really want to interact with him because he's just been dead set on voteparking me, claiming the only thing i do is AtE making it seem like im some super scum for that, taking potshots at me, calling me elim-bait etc. and ari just gets to sheep him because he's IC and i don't really feel like i can do anything about this situation. idk im in kind of a unique spot for him tho
You literally haven't even attempted to talk to me yet. Saying I'm annoying for making my case on you is just wild if you aren't going to do anything to convince me I'm wrong. Especially when all you've done is complain about Datisi and Margot.
I want to add that I never parked my vote on you. This is exactly why I think you're playing the victim and being manipulative, because it's clear I've been moving my vote around all game.

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:00 am
by datsi
In post 931, Datisi wrote:while i don't disagree, i feel like miller claim is at least somewhat town!indicative from n_m

thoughts on t3? on my thoughts on t3? i don't think you townread him, why ignore that in favour of n_m?

pedit: @gamma
T3 can also be scum, idr what you’ve said about him in specific, I just feel like N_M is the right vote, he’s kinda in line with his scum meta and just has been UtR in general this game, he hasn’t really pushed anyone (I know he said he has no scumreads but still :/)

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:01 am
by datsi
I also feel like the game’s starting to stall a little so I’m trying something new

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:34 am
by Aristeia
im willing to kill nm because im kind of annoyed at him gamethrowing last time we were t/t

he quickhammered my lover pair and then self hammered himself the next day to end the game for a scum win.

if he is town he might as well be playing for the other side

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:12 am
by Aristeia
In post 902, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 841, Aristeia wrote:I like how dwlee's posting has depth that feels closer to [their] town game than [their] scum game. I also don't think scum![them] would approach my slot by voteparking me because I don't think scum![them] really wants to push town!me since [they've] played with me before.
Also idk when Aristeia has seen my scum game to know this
sorry for misgendering ! oops :<

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:22 am
by Aristeia
this btw is the game I am talking about:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=87638


he is town in this one and at least interested in voting scum but he decides to instead hammer townpair then hammer himself to game throw

so i'm fine with elimming NM even if he is a miller because he's just deadweight and not really helpful to our win condition

also I am just angry and spiteful sometimes.

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:49 am
by ChaosOmega
VOTE: datsi

I've re-read, but I still don't have a great bearing on things. Top scumreads are datsi, Dwlee, and iv. datsi's progression on Margot (from to to ) reads weird, like you want to keep on Datisi's good side but didn't actually change the read at all. also has a weird vibe, really just the "I am loathe to use it as the primary evidence for a push" part. The tone is weirdly cautious, and given the light push () and then defending the slot (/714) later, it reads partner-y. The sequence 508/616//690/, datsi drops the thread and doesn't mention Ari again, it doesn't read like datsi is trying to solve Ari's slot.

Dwlee, gives them a reason not to be NK'd, a claim wasn't necessary there as part of the reaction test. It's already been commented on, but the early buddying with Datisi reads odd. It's so over the top to the point that it doesn't read as trying to pocket, but still odd. Speaking of lame reaction tests, they spend multiple posts on multiple people asking for opinions on Roden. Obviously a joke, but it's made in a way to look vaguely productive like they're doing a reaction test. gives similar vibes to datsi's 269 earlier. If you think it makes him likelier to be scum, then push him and get something out of him, the hand-wringing here is weird.

Getting ready to eat dinner, will follow up on this later with iv.

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:51 am
by Dwlee99
Chaos nooo if you're town we can't do this again

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:52 am
by Dwlee99
(I also don't need a reason not to be night killed. I hardly ever am.)

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 12:00 pm
by ChaosOmega
In post 943, Dwlee99 wrote:Chaos nooo if you're town we can't do this again
Lol, I'm conscious of this. I'm not going to tunnel you again, my scumread is not as strong as the previous game.

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 1:45 pm
by innocentvillager
In post 926, Roden wrote:
In post 878, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 859, datsi wrote:It a sort of hitting-your-head-against-a-wall tone I feel like scum typically display when trying to sway an IC or pseudo-IC
tbh not trying to be mean but i find roden pretty annoying (just this game nothing personal) and i kind of vibed with Mew's sentiment myself so i don't see it as scummy. like i just don't really want to interact with him because he's just been dead set on voteparking me, claiming the only thing i do is AtE making it seem like im some super scum for that, taking potshots at me, calling me elim-bait etc. and ari just gets to sheep him because he's IC and i don't really feel like i can do anything about this situation. idk im in kind of a unique spot for him tho
You literally haven't even attempted to talk to me yet. Saying I'm annoying for making my case on you is just wild if you aren't going to do anything to convince me I'm wrong. Especially when all you've done is complain about Datisi and Margot.
i mean you haven't attempted to talk to me either and everytime you mention me it feels like you're potshotting me hard

ever since you last voted me you kept your vote on me pretty consistently so it feels like you're set on voteparking me, idk why you think im misrepping you there? and you even called me elimbait that never ever makes it to elo so?

im not trying to be a dick sorry if ive coming off as one it's just how i felt

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 1:50 pm
by innocentvillager
In post 889, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 888, Mewtaph wrote:His posts make a lot of sense. I think his progression on my slot (uptick) is extremely townie and I've basically interacted with him the most. There are other things but that should be more than enough for now.
I am, however, a bit biased here. If you TR me though, you can trust my read on him. I feel quite strongly about him being town.
idk i still think ur town but i don't know if i can trust u on chaos being town

i will reevaluate and elaborate at some point tho

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 1:51 pm
by Aristeia
In post 935, Roden wrote:VOTE: Margot

Kinda losing motivation this game tbh. Genuinely hope scum just kills me because this game is becoming so unnecessarily unfun.
: (


this is kind of what scum has to do tho to win. make your life unfun and make you not want to play. don't give in. fight the emotional manipulation.

kill them without mercy

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 1:52 pm
by T3
In post 932, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm town, y'all just boring
VOTE: nm
He said the EXACT same thing in 2223 when he had a few votes.