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In post 916, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 913, Andante wrote:And one more thing, how often do scum fake claim miller?

I have not seen a true or fake miller claim in a while. The role has become pretty rare.

It used to be... relatively common, I would say, but maybe I'm biased because I've done it (and got away with it, too, though I probably shouldn't have).

Given that miller has become rarer I would say fakeclaiming it would also probably be rare.

In post 931, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Should i vote Jeff, April?

In post 923, Andante wrote:Another thing that doesn't sit too well with me, A50, yes they subbed into a maf slot this game, but I think their play thus far has been super similar to:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=86330

The carefree, "I'm not doing anything" personality. I'm just struggling to see A50 as anything higher than null here as well.

In post 933, Gamma Emerald wrote:jeff has seemed town from the start for me but maybe that's just someone who knows how to pocket me and I'm blithely unaware because alt

In post 918, Andante wrote:if you're around, I would love some explanation on T3, you say you can't look at him badly and that he's shown "genuine conviction in game-specific topics" I would really love some help seeing what makes him towny, A50 I'm not fully certain on, but I can see a Holiday/aza/dwlee town world. T3 is the one I would really love to hear more on though if you have a moment

In post 938, Azaariah wrote:if you think im town, what is this shade for?? you've been consistently calling me town why constantly shading me. i dont understand what you are doing at this point.

In post 839, osuka wrote:

In post 551, osuka wrote:prepare yourselves

In post 866, Azaariah wrote:im not caught up at this point but what i have to say is that although i do think it's a possibly that andante is town now (unlike previously), i still believe that is the optimal elimination today. there's a couple reasons i have for this but i do think a clear cut andante flip brings clarity to a lot of questions. i think it helps shut down future speculation that is useless noise and i dont think andante staying in the game helps town even if they do happen to be town here (based on this gamestate and other factors). my last point is that andante has posted posts saying "it's ok if i die today if it's good for town" so that just means the slot is vt or scum. i dont see the harm in taking a gamble on a high information flip that cant be a town pr and might even be scum.

to anyone who scum reads andante and myself, that doesn't make sense. all of my posts have been calling andante scum and had i been the one interacting with andante when they just got back, there would be even more posts calling them scum. creating an environment that feels, even if it is not entirely, a 1v1 between myself and a scum buddy is possibly the worst situation to put myself in on day 1 as scum. and lets just say you still believe we're scum together, ok since you believe that so firmly, it doesn't matter which scum dies first right? help me bus my buddy.

to anyone who scum reads me and not andante. andante's green flip brings me a lot of pressure tomorrow and as scum, that's not optimal for day 2. andante's green flip would attract investigative my way tonight as well as put me under a lot of pressure tomorrow. i could be slightly shading andante or simply hopping on t3 here instead. and let's say t3 is my scum buddy. the first person i look to as a "LHF" slot to tunnel, is still not andante.

i am absolutely willing to 1v1 andante here because i believe andante is a valuable flip that brings clarity to the game. i am fully willing to take responsibility and be subject to pages and pages of questioning tomorrow if this flips town. i think an andante flip today is the optimal choice.

from a gamestate perspective, i think andante elim benefits town in every scenario there could possibly be. to anyone that trusts that i am town, let me lead this wagon. even if it is wrong, it is lead by town and finding scum on the wagon is an easier job if you believe it is lead by town. i am not offering myself up as the elim tomorrow if andante flips town but i am willing to be on the cutting board. im willing to be the person that people blame. i know this may not help but i do think that an andante flip is very valuable here especially over someone like t3. what do we gain from a flip like that?

but what do we gain from an andante flip? well we know that if they are scum, a number of people like t3, holiday, april, and myself are somewhat cleared.
if they are town, we reanalyze the wagon and everyone's reasons for joining. we look at the resistance as well and try to find where scum ended up positioning themselves.
we gain more from an andante flip than any other flip today.

In post 945, WubblyBubbly wrote:im having some login issues but it sounded like no shade and i also never understood why holiday and a50 were higher than me in your reads. you made so many posts calling me town and included reasons yet im not higher than holiday and a50 who you havent made any significant posts on?? to be honest i also think holiday is the towniest but still