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[jjh927]

But yeah I'm gonna be here waiting for Flea and Dwlee

Roden has made it pretty clear he's gonna sit on the fence and try and drum up paranoia on me

[Flea The Magician]

Flea is currently exausted because flashbacks into socialising, good times.

Clear of lolhammer on FM unless partnered.

Problem for me currently is you were both fairly solid town reads, one of you is S, and honestly I don't want to be throwing this when the mind is cloudy.

I will bring my thoughts together tomorrow - there's a couple points I want both of you to address and I need the cognitive capacity to do this properly.

[jjh927]

It's actually simpler than that

From your POV I would have to be scum with Dwlee

[Flea The Magician]

My PoV currently does not exist because brain is offline, but do elaborate on that, this is a YOLO situation and I tend to throw everything out in this situation.

[Roden]

Fighter A: Batman with six months prep time was submitted by jjh927.
Fighter B: A bear made of metal. was submitted by a disinterested party on behalf of PookyTheMagicalBear, who failed to submit a fighter on time.

A: Faerie Mages, Radical Rat, Not_Mafia, Roden, jjh927, Flea the Magician, Temporal Lich, Enchant
B: Dwlee99, PookytheMagicalBear, Firebringer,

The bear made of metal lies cold and dead, as does Pooky, it's master. Pooky was:

TOWN

Fighter A: Natsuki Subaru in the Ayamatsu IF Timeline was submitted by Firebringer.
Fighter B: Incorporeal voices whispering dad jokes endlessly was submitted by Flea the Magician.

A: Galron, jjh927, Firebringer
B: TemporalLich, Dwlee99, Not_Mafia, Roden, Radical Rat, Flea the Magician, Faerie Mages

"What do you call a deer with no eyes? No idear."
"Why aren't previous generations of ants called antcestors?"
"Did you know that the person who invented the Merry-Go-Round and the person who invented the Ferris Wheel never actually met each other? They just travelled in different circles."
"What do we want?
Time travel.
When do we want it?
That’s irrelevant."

You know what? Fuck this. I'm out. Natsuki Subaru has given up on the fight, taking Firebringer with him. Firebringer was:

TOWN

Fighter A: Isabelle from Animal Crossing with Doom Guy was submitted by Faerie Mages.
Fighter B: Supreme Calamitas was submitted by TemporalLich.

A: jjh927, Dwlee99, Not_Mafia, Roden, Flea the Magician, Faerie Mages
B: TemporalLich, Galron

I'd prepared a longwinded commentary of the epic battle, but unfortunately wasn't able to provide it due to a lack of oxygen. Supreme Calamitas suffered a supreme calamity, taking TemporalLich along for the ride. TemporalLich was:

TOWN

Fighter A: Giant frog with magic and opposable thumbs was submitted by Dwlee99.
Fighter B: Whitney's Miltank: Stomp, Attract, Milk Drink, Rollout was submitted by Not_Mafia.

A: Dwlee99, Flea the Magician, jjh927
B: Roden, Faerie Mages

Not_Mafia, so assured of the superiority of Miltanks everywhere, didn't manage to submit a vote before he was mercilessly crushed under the magical might of frogs everywhere. He was:

TOWN

Roden/Faerie have voted together every time

Dwlee I'm pretty sure you know by now that it isn't in my scum range to openly buddy up with my partner. I also don't set up my scum buddy against Lich ever, I was the only one town reading that slot and they were pretty obviously going to get mis-elim'd if they had survived their fight. If anything, it would've been optimal for me to bus Faerie there since nobody expects scum to NK themselves.

This is also the reason I find it hard to believe Faerie could be scum. Fighting Lich makes zero sense for scum to do unless they

really

believed I could stop their mis-elim.

Would still like for Dwlee to respond to this.

[Dwlee99]

I disagree with your self meta and it's kinda irrelevant now that it's confirmed for me that faerie is scum

[Dwlee99]

I actually don't think there's anyone that can't make the same argument you did about not putting TL up, for instance.

[Roden]

I disagree with your self meta and it's kinda irrelevant now that it's confirmed for me that faerie is scum

It isn't a self meta. But if you disagree then you're free to show examples of me open wolfing and hard defending my scum team.

[Roden]

It's actually simpler than that

From your POV I would have to be scum with Dwlee

Was gonna say this but yeah, Flea has to either think you and Dwlee are the team or me and Faerie are the team. There aren't really any other options. Unless they're getting bussed I guess.

[Dwlee99]

Dude I literally don't care if you're scum or not today

Do you think JJH and I are a team or not

[Dwlee99]

I disagree with your self meta and it's kinda irrelevant now that it's confirmed for me that faerie is scum

It isn't a self meta. But if you disagree then you're free to show examples of me open wolfing and hard defending my scum team.

How is out of anyone's scum range to just... Do things with their partner and townread them. It's like the MathBlade newbie method to play scum

[Roden]

I actually don't think there's anyone that can't make the same argument you did about not putting TL up, for instance.

This is factually untrue. I was the only one openly town reading Lich, I had the least to gain from putting them up and then voting for them to lose the fight. They would've been both pocketed and a mis-elim option if I were scum and they were still alive in ELo. If I'm scum, the best option is to put them up against NM since they'd have the best chance to survive vs literally anyone else.

[Dwlee99]

Margot, Val, you're most likely both town and this back and forth is just gonna make a great cover for scum to hide in. Can you two please call a truce for now so we can figure out what the fuck is going on with Cook in

this

game, not whatever her intentions were in a scum PT in a completely different game from a month ago?

PE: Thank you.

And here is you trying to frame your buddy as being in a TvT...

[Dwlee99]

I actually don't think there's anyone that can't make the same argument you did about not putting TL up, for instance.

This is factually untrue. I was the only one openly town reading Lich, I had the least to gain from putting them up and then voting for them to lose the fight. They would've been both pocketed and a mis-elim option if I were scum and they were still alive in ELo. If I'm scum, the best option is to put them up against NM since they'd have the best chance to survive vs literally anyone else.

I just don't find it convincing sorry

[Faerie Mages]

Faerie: Oh never mind, Flea is town. Hope you are doing ok <3
Mage: I guess it really was jjh and Dwlee coming in and gunning for our head right off the bat

[Faerie Mages]

Mage: We're checking out for now but we'll vote either Dwlee or Jjh today.
Faerie: If we vote correctly today, we flashwagon tomorrow and win the game.
Mage: If not, we just lose today VOTE: Jjh

[Roden]

Dude I literally don't care if you're scum or not today

Do you think JJH and I are a team or not

Idk. One of you could be bussing.

Dude I literally don't care if you're scum or not today

Do you think JJH and I are a team or not

I disagree with your self meta and it's kinda irrelevant now that it's confirmed for me that faerie is scum

It isn't a self meta. But if you disagree then you're free to show examples of me open wolfing and hard defending my scum team.

How is out of anyone's scum range to just... Do things with their partner and townread them. It's like the MathBlade newbie method to play scum

That's not what I'm being accused of though? For me to be scum with Faerie I'd have to be hard defending my partner, intentionally killing my pocket right before ELo, and refuse to bus in ELo even though Faerie has been looking like the pretty clear elim all of today. Like that just doesn't make any sense

[Roden]

Margot, Val, you're most likely both town and this back and forth is just gonna make a great cover for scum to hide in. Can you two please call a truce for now so we can figure out what the fuck is going on with Cook in

this

game, not whatever her intentions were in a scum PT in a completely different game from a month ago?

PE: Thank you.

And here is you trying to frame your buddy as being in a TvT...

Saying my scum buddy is probably town on Day 1 in the Newbie queue is not even close to what I'm being accused of today lmao.

I actually don't think there's anyone that can't make the same argument you did about not putting TL up, for instance.

This is factually untrue. I was the only one openly town reading Lich, I had the least to gain from putting them up and then voting for them to lose the fight. They would've been both pocketed and a mis-elim option if I were scum and they were still alive in ELo. If I'm scum, the best option is to put them up against NM since they'd have the best chance to survive vs literally anyone else.

I just don't find it convincing sorry

Then you're most likely scum tbh.

[Dwlee99]

Do you actually think you couldn't play a scum game where you defend your partner and vote with them?

[Dwlee99]

Like how am I supposed to find that even remotely convincing...

[Dwlee99]

And I just got out of a game where koba was like "oh I can't be scum cause why would I night kill someone that townread me" and "how could I be scum when I made this post hard defending the flipped scum"

And then Datisi actually bought that hard defending their partner was town-indicative and voted me to lose in ELO lol

[jjh927]

Roden can't vote me because if he does and Flea votes FM then he is confscummed and can't get another try to wiggle out in the next day phase

[Dwlee99]

And you have to explain how I'm partnered with JJH when I voted against them N1 after a scum lim D1 if you want to argue Faerie is scum here. Which is a much stronger case than "oh but hard defending/voting with my partner would be SO scummy it's out of my scum range"

[jjh927]

He is now playing up the "someone could be bussing" because it is literally his only shot now

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