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Anyway, I'm gonna return to the wagon now.
VOTE: Gypyx
Enchant, if you haven't given out your exp yet I'd appreciate it as it would put me at 3 at eod, although I'm probably not the only one in that situation.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:37 pm
by Frozen Angel
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What you mean he has no access to his original hood?
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:08 pm
by jjh927
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Reinhardt had the ability to move hoods
He went from the warrior hood to the mage hood
Now Dwlee is in the slot and is in the mage hood but doesn't have the early context of the warrior hood, not that much happened in there before Reinhardt left
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:40 pm
by Ginngie
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 12:39 am
by jjh927
Wow I guess Dunnstral is the fourth. Dunnstral. . . Pretty crazy how Dunnstral must be repeated. Dunnstral is not easy to incorporate into sentences every four words.
@mod: Are you sure that is E-1
Mastina unvoted
Cool votecount though. Should have got my fourth post out of the way sooner so this didn't happen lmao
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:07 am
by Ginngie
The vote count is indeed correct
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:25 am
by Yume
Maybe mastina has an ability of some sort that is similar to mine?
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:51 am
by jjh927
Yeah I'm just wondering why that was the conclusion you lept to on your last post rather than assuming mod error
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:56 am
by jjh927
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You have put me in a position where I must be perpetually worried that is a tmi between you and Mastina
I actually think Mastina is scum here anyway though, which might be a bit of a shocking statement to hear from me ever but I think this might now be the new normal of Mastina's scumgame, which is to say the old normal.
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:48 am
by Yume
In post 932, jjh927 wrote:Yeah I'm just wondering why that was the conclusion you lept to on your last post rather than assuming mod error
Um...the mod already confirmed it's not mod error...
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:27 am
by jjh927
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Only via the votecounts, unless I'm missing something else
I was missing something, though. Mastina's votes weren't counted. Mastina unvoting was counted as a vote. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that the opposite of vote/unvote is whatever Mastina is actually doing
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:28 am
by jjh927
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Just gonna clear #4 before someone else pops in and makes it difficult
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:27 am
by Titus
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I'm sorry 917 is my fault. That's the first mechanical mistake I have made I feel. I thought I was grabbing a universal protective, instead it's an aggessive action which I'm not prepared to take and I took another garbage to get it.
Here. He confirmed it's not a mod error right here.
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:20 am
by Dwlee99
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In post 924, jjh927 wrote:I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realizing it might help other people too
What kind of rundown do you want? Playwise I think things are a bit stale because we should have elimed Gypyx in day 1 but he got off fot dumb mechanical reasons that have since been proven to be dumb
In terms of the slot you have replaced into, that is a very unfortunate one as you don't share a memory with your predecessor and have no access to your original hood. However, don't come back right now and if you are going anywhere then go sneak hood after clearing it with them
Yea I realized when I clicked warrior hood and had no access rip. I think before we end day I want to take notes on the mage hood?
But as far as a rundown: maybe claims? How roles and XP work (I'm assuming this is in the setup description but I haven't checked + the game is listed as bastard)? Any significant events? I guess I can ISO gypyx to figure out why he is being wagoned
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:22 am
by Dwlee99
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Oh wait I get XP if I hammer this. I wanna do that then
Here. He confirmed it's not a mod error right here.
That is after the post I was referencing. When I said "your last post" I think I was pretty clear, but basically I meant this one
In post 914, Yume wrote:So...mastina's vote is still counted despite the fact that she unvoted... *scratches head*
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:53 am
by jjh927
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In post 939, Dwlee99 wrote:I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realizing it might help other people too
In post 924, jjh927 wrote:I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realizing it might help other people too
What kind of rundown do you want? Playwise I think things are a bit stale because we should have elimed Gypyx in day 1 but he got off fot dumb mechanical reasons that have since been proven to be dumb
In terms of the slot you have replaced into, that is a very unfortunate one as you don't share a memory with your predecessor and have no access to your original hood. However, don't come back right now and if you are going anywhere then go sneak hood after clearing it with them
Yea I realized when I clicked warrior hood and had no access rip. I think before we end day I want to take notes on the mage hood?
But as far as a rundown: maybe claims? How roles and XP work (I'm assuming this is in the setup description but I haven't checked + the game is listed as bastard)? Any significant events? I guess I can ISO gypyx to figure out why he is being wagoned
Okay, so
Current Hood distribution:
Warrior hood:
Yume
jjh927
LLD
- Did not post. Nobody except maybe Titus was aware LLD had access to this hood.
Pooky
Mage Hood:
Dwlee
Shiro
Titus
Gypyx
Enchant
Sneak Hood:
Mastina
Dunnstral
Frozen Angel
Roden
Everything from this point onwards is off the top of my head so please, anyone correct me if I have missed anything important.
Mechanics:
You should read the first post for the details on how experience works first. There is more that can expand on this based on what we have learnt;
As far as I am aware, and nobody has told me otherwise, everyone's role PM is a mashup of 2 of their 3 picks. Every role PM I am aware of has two aspects to it, one corresponding roughly to each of those 2 picks.
The upgrade mechanic in this game from the engineer role, which can be purchased on any of the 3 skill trees, appears to grant an ability based on the third pick. Every such ability I am aware of that someone has been granted by this upgrade has been some variety of troll ability that makes things more confusing somehow for everyone.
Claims:
Pooky: Dead
LLD: Dead, claimed to have been masonised.
Yume: Yume has a hidden doublevote via PM (that was granted by upgrade); no claim on initial role PM
jjh927: I started with bulletproof already bought and haven't claimed the other half of my initial role PM.
Dwlee/Reinhardt: Your predecessor claimed and used the ability to change hoods.
Shiro: Subtext easily enough read but I'm not gonna say it out loud. Look in the mage hood; the answer is surely there
Titus: Claimed to have masonised LLD. Also has evidenced use of a role-swapping ability that swaps roles, with the nature of its operation giving further credence to the mechanical theory that everyone's initial role PMs have two abilities.
Gypyx: Claimed neighbouriser. Probably claimed whatever other thing he has in the mage hood. Pushed the idea that upgrading him could make him a masoniser and somehow got Titus to believe him against all mechanical sense. This has since been proven false though we do not know what Gypyx got from his upgrade.
Enchant: Can give out 0.5 exp. Hasn't claimed anything else.
Mastina: Something to do with lying. Has a post restriction where like half of her posts have to claim she is town. Her votes appear to be unvotes and her unvotes appear to be votes (probably an upgrade based on my spec)
Dunnstral: No claim. He did agree to upgrade Gypyx by gathering enough experience in N1 from his hood, and followed through on it.
Frozen Angel: Claimed to have a role that will make them die in some way, guaranteed.
Roden: No claim
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:55 am
by jjh927
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Remember that if you hammer now, this thread will close and you won't be able to ask me any questions, and I'm pretty sure in this game right now I am the guy to ask questions
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:04 am
by Frozen Angel
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My role pm is only for one character, not two.
I'm trying to be useful in this game, but I just can't have townreads. Like I'm trying so so hard to read ISO and say yeah I feel good about this slot and I cant.
It's insane how I don't have any solid town lean/read at this stage of the game for my standards. Everyone only talks about mechanics. The person I push just vanishes over pushing my slot. and my other suspect replaces out. My other suspect (dunn) refuses to even make a comment about my fos here or in the neighborhood and everyone else I asked about analyzing yesterday's wagon, just outright ignored my questions.
Guess half the game happening behind closed doors in hoods is not helping at all.
So yeah, I'm not sure what to do with this game at this point.
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:05 am
by jjh927
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Okay that is extremely useful information
I suspect based on a combination of my unfathomable levels of information and setup spec that means you might be able to be upgraded twice
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:06 am
by jjh927
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I'd be very interested to hear why you scumread Dunn, particularly if there's anything coming from the neighbourhood on that line
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:09 am
by Frozen Angel
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In post 874, Frozen Angel wrote:I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realizing it might help other people too
I also want to investigate something as well.
It seems to me that the dunnstral slot vote was the worst in yesterday wagon on poky as he was not going to push the slot for information or his suspect. He also hide information from us about something in sneak neighborhood when it became such a hard debate in mid day 1 in game that could have been very important mechanically otherwise. Then they claimed it at start of night to ask us for a help with something. that behavior just made no sense to me. if he was with a town mindset seeking for assistance there was no reason to hide that info earlier. if he was with scum mindset however, maybe he thought that the way game progressed made that move more believable so he went with it? - this is all me thinking out load at this point. I just need to work on that slot a little closer.
pedit: oooof loved. not the lover. I understand and can see it
Sorry for being so dusted. I have been away from these games for quiet some time hehe
This is why I suspect the slot (and one other thing I don't wanna share in public)
I also don't suspect them enough to outright claim what was the info they hide in day 1.
But yeah I feel like that move makes more sense from a scum mindset than a suspecting town mindset.
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:10 am
by Frozen Angel
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In post 945, jjh927 wrote:I suspect based on a combination of my unfathomable levels of information and setup spec that means you might be able to be upgraded twice
If it's true then maybe one of them saves my life.
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:13 am
by Enchant
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If you want to talk, i kinda regained my composure, but i feel it's better to keep for next day.