I think that the quoted posts in 923 from marci are unusual because she seems to be TRing STD for his interactions with you. But outside of those interactions, it seems that there isn't much reason why he's being TRed.
I'm not sure about 925 though marci seems mildly defensive in the quoted post. Though, I'm not sure if that is AI.
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:50 am
by Faker
I think there's a little further to go in 925 that I did not make more implicit.
If this is true: I know marcistar is town in this game + I notice the differences in Eurybia (which marcistar agrees exist) -> I'd have scumread marcistar in Eurybia for those differences.
Then: I didn't scumread marcistar in Eurybia -> I either didn't notice the differences between the games, or
I instead knew that marcistar isn't town this game
.
Her saying "The games are circumstantially different!" is not the defense she thinks it is.
This isn't 100% airtight and there are other possibilities, but I hope the simplification helps illustrate my point. (ex. There is also no evidence in Eurybia that I based my read on this game at all, as it should be. I also might have noticed marcistar was town in Eurybia despite the differences, then move to exploit them.)
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:51 am
by Faker
that I did not make more explicit*
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:53 am
by RH9
In post 929, Faker wrote:I think there's a little further to go in 925 that I did not make more implicit.
If this is true: I know marcistar is town in this game + I notice the differences in Eurybia (which marcistar agrees exist) -> I'd have scumread marcistar in Eurybia for those differences.
Then: I didn't scumread marcistar in Eurybia -> I either didn't notice the differences between the games, or
I instead knew that marcistar isn't town this game
.
Her saying "The games are circumstantially different!" is not the defense she thinks it is.
This isn't 100% airtight and there are other possibilities, but I hope the simplification helps illustrate my point. (ex. There is also no evidence in Eurybia that I based my read on this game at all, as it should be. I also might have noticed marcistar was town in Eurybia despite the differences, then move to exploit them.)
I see.
This makes more sense now. It also weakens her defence.
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:06 pm
by Faker
I've got a few ideas for candidate meta-tells for RH9 but I'm probably going to wait until tomorrow. Like I said I'm tired after that slog through Eurybia and want a break.
I liked Dwlee99's last explanation about the minigames.
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:17 pm
by marcistar
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"not the defence i think it is"?
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the fuck are you on rn?
In post 929, Faker wrote:If this is true: I know marcistar is town in this game + I notice the differences in Eurybia (which marcistar agrees exist) -> I'd have scumread marcistar in Eurybia for those differences.
Then: I didn't scumread marcistar in Eurybia -> I either didn't notice the differences between the games, or
I instead knew that marcistar isn't town this game
.
Her saying "The games are circumstantially different!" is not the defense she thinks it is.
This isn't 100% airtight and there are other possibilities, but I hope the simplification helps illustrate my point. (ex. There is also no evidence in Eurybia that I based my read on this game at all, as it should be. I also might have noticed marcistar was town in Eurybia despite the differences, then move to exploit them.)
they
are
different circumstances
why did you bring up eurybia if you weren't trying to use it to push ur point along?
u KNOW my gamestyle is all over the place prism
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:21 pm
by RH9
In post 932, Faker wrote:I liked Dwlee99's last explanation about the minigames.
Me too. 914 made me flip my read.
I think that Dwlee's explanation is sound and in addition to 914, they are showing that they want to solve and help Town sort.
In post 932, Faker wrote:I liked Dwlee99's last explanation about the minigames.
Me too. 915 made me flip my read.
I think that Dwlee's explanation is sound and in addition to 914, they are showing that they want to solve and help Town sort.
In post 932, Faker wrote:I liked Dwlee99's last explanation about the minigames.
Me too. 914 made me flip my read.
I think that Dwlee's explanation is sound and in addition to 913, they are showing that they want to solve and help Town sort.
In post 932, Faker wrote:I liked Dwlee99's last explanation about the minigames.
Me too. 914 made me flip my read.
I think that Dwlee's explanation is sound and in addition to 912, they are showing that they want to solve and help Town sort.
I'm really undecided if posts like this, and all the "Faker is buddying you!" posts are +town for RH9 or +scum for RH9.
Similar to how I don't need to convince RH9 I'm town as scum, marcistar doesn't have to either.
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:45 pm
by RH9
In post 939, Faker wrote:
Similar to how I don't need to convince RH9 I'm town as scum, marcistar doesn't have to either.
Unless she somehow thinks that I can influence MD.
Which she hasn't really said so far.
So best case scenario, it's NAI.
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:53 pm
by Faker
My concern is more that she's phoned it in on MD in the hopes of making Dragons look bad and you look good.
Question for the well-rested Faker of tomorrow, though. I find it hard to turn my brain off but I really don't want to go meta-diving you right now to see if I can figure you out that way.
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:56 pm
by RH9
In post 941, Faker wrote:My concern is more that she's phoned it in on MD in the hopes of making Dragons look bad and you look good.
Question for the well-rested Faker of tomorrow, though. I find it hard to turn my brain off but I really don't want to go meta-diving you right now to see if I can figure you out that way.
I see.
Have a good night.
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:49 pm
by Datisi
vote count 2.2
with 3 votes in play, it takes 2 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2022-07-04 11:15:00).
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:58 pm
by RH9
By the way, Faker, is there a reason why you're not cross-posting?
That's usually the norm.
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:59 pm
by RH9
In post 944, RH9 wrote:By the way, Faker, is there a reason why you're not cross-voting?
That's usually the norm.
EBWOP
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:08 pm
by Faker
Yeah, we don't want Meuh to actually hammer the minigame.
Scum up 1-0 means that if Meuh votes marcistar, and I don't hammer, I'm clear and we don't actually have to kick me out of the overall game by formally finishing the minigame. The hard part is actually coordinating so that scum can't selfhammer to deny the second clear.
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:03 pm
by RH9
In post 946, Faker wrote:Yeah, we don't want Meuh to actually hammer the minigame.
Scum up 1-0 means that if Meuh votes marcistar, and I don't hammer, I'm clear and we don't actually have to kick me out of the overall game by formally finishing the minigame. The hard part is actually coordinating so that scum can't selfhammer to deny the second clear.
I see.
That seems really smart of you.
So you want SGB to resolve first if you get cleared? Or am I misinterpreting?