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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:25 am
by T-Bone
In post 917, Yume wrote:Vote prof.

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The Hypnotoad compels you to.
Gimmick infringement

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:27 am
by Yume
In post 924, MathBlade wrote:
In post 921, Yume wrote:
In post 919, MathBlade wrote:@Titus

You realize I said one scumread on Mastina and then she does nothing but make this battle.
I told her it’s one she loses. She proceeded anyway.

She’s doing the damn near equivalent of screaming an innocent child is scum. (I am not IC it’s an analogy).

I was fully content to lurk it out and have people talk other reads and see what she spews.

A lurker wagon when Mastina is destroying the townblock is not ideal.

We are almost at Stevens Universe levels here of bad if she’s town which I don’t think she is.
Yes, and you do realize that if you're town, this game will play out exactly like that one? Like, if you're town, what you are suggesting is a repeat performance of that. *is still bitter five years later*
You mean where town miselimmed me then did really well?
The game could have ended two phrases early if people just listened to mastina!

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:29 am
by Yume
But no, you had to allow sheer spite to get in the way! Like they go 'she forces me to do this thing, but I don't wanna, so I'll just let my own faction lose out of sheer spite'.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:31 am
by T-Bone
In post 923, T-Bone wrote:
In post 913, mastina wrote:4/5 of the votes are from scum. (T-Bone will look back at his presence on that wagon later and realize how badly he fucked up. In a way that imo clears him as town, but like. I'll probably be dead by then and him still alive so I won't be around to defend him after he realizes how badly he fucked up by joining the all-scum wagon.)
If we flip you I'll feel good regardless of the outcome ftr

But like if you really want to convince me that I'm on a wagon with scum posts like this ain't it.
I should probably add an addendum to this.

I open to you being town. But I'd have to see you stop making anti-town posts.

And I know what maybe town!Mastina's response to this might look like. "But I am making pro-town posts because I'm right" and let me stop you right there. Reevaluate.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:32 am
by Yume
That said, I don't really count on anyone but myself here, unless people give me reason to. And you aren't. In fact, you're trying to get me riled up so you can use that as an excuse or whatever.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:38 am
by Radical Rat
Well, I wasn't GOING to vote until I saw the rest of the thread, but.

VOTE: mastina

I don't know that I've played with you as scum before (unless you count Double Agency, but... Weird game, that.), but in my experience from other people this kind of attempt to bully the rest of the thread into submission by kicking and screaming you're Town and everyone else is idiots is usually scum.

And to be frank, regardless of alignment, I find the behavior unconscionable.

If you're Town, and you genuinely believe you have a massive solve D1 that just happens to be everyone suspicious of you... You should be elated to have all of the scum out themselves so they can be eliminated in your wake, not angry and belligerent.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:39 am
by Yume
In post 926, Yume wrote:
In post 924, MathBlade wrote:
In post 921, Yume wrote:
In post 919, MathBlade wrote:@Titus

You realize I said one scumread on Mastina and then she does nothing but make this battle.
I told her it’s one she loses. She proceeded anyway.

She’s doing the damn near equivalent of screaming an innocent child is scum. (I am not IC it’s an analogy).

I was fully content to lurk it out and have people talk other reads and see what she spews.

A lurker wagon when Mastina is destroying the townblock is not ideal.

We are almost at Stevens Universe levels here of bad if she’s town which I don’t think she is.
Yes, and you do realize that if you're town, this game will play out exactly like that one? Like, if you're town, what you are suggesting is a repeat performance of that. *is still bitter five years later*
You mean where town miselimmed me then did really well?
The game could have ended two phrases early if people just listened to mastina!
And town may have won buy our faction didn't! Does it please you that a town-aligned faction lost because of sheer spite? Do you enjoy winning by trampling over us?!

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:41 am
by T-Bone
Okay RR become my shiny beacon of sanity you win.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:44 am
by Yume
*Yume.EXE has stopped working due to anger levels rising. Anger overload imminent.*

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:48 am
by Yume
And if you truly think she is wrong, then explain WHY you think she is wrong. Like, list all of the reasons each and every player she called scum aren't scum. You think none of them are actually scum? Prove it!

And I know what your next post will be 'I am not gonna do that because I am right and I don't have to prove anything to you or anyone else yadda yadda yadda'. Which would be the exact shit you're accusing her of.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:53 am
by Past Present Future
In post 919, MathBlade wrote:@Titus

You realize I said one scumread on Mastina and then she does nothing but make this battle.
I told her it’s one she loses. She proceeded anyway.

She’s doing the damn near equivalent of screaming an innocent child is scum. (I am not IC it’s an analogy).

I was fully content to lurk it out and have people talk other reads and see what she spews.

A lurker wagon when Mastina is destroying the townblock is not ideal.

We are almost at Stevens Universe levels here of bad if she’s town which I don’t think she is.
Admitting this is you v mastina is a "battle" makes me much less likely to vote there. Nancy might overrule me (doubt it) but you frequently get into t v t battles to get your way in the thread. We're all NPCs and Math has the one true way. I don't care to be treated like that, particularly when mastina had good reads at the time I stopped reading. mastina's reads might have gotten worse since being wagoned (I doubt 5 or 6 scum on her wagon), but that's not a reason to FoS her.

Also, I am not feeling the Yume vote with her recent posting.

UNVOTE: Yume

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:29 am
by MathBlade
In post 935, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 919, MathBlade wrote:@Titus

You realize I said one scumread on Mastina and then she does nothing but make this battle.
I told her it’s one she loses. She proceeded anyway.

She’s doing the damn near equivalent of screaming an innocent child is scum. (I am not IC it’s an analogy).

I was fully content to lurk it out and have people talk other reads and see what she spews.

A lurker wagon when Mastina is destroying the townblock is not ideal.

We are almost at Stevens Universe levels here of bad if she’s town which I don’t think she is.
Admitting this is you v mastina is a "battle" makes me much less likely to vote there. Nancy might overrule me (doubt it) but you frequently get into t v t battles to get your way in the thread. We're all NPCs and Math has the one true way. I don't care to be treated like that, particularly when mastina had good reads at the time I stopped reading. mastina's reads might have gotten worse since being wagoned (I doubt 5 or 6 scum on her wagon), but that's not a reason to FoS her.

Also, I am not feeling the Yume vote with her recent posting.

UNVOTE: Yume
I agree. It’s not a reason to scumread her.

My reasons were drowned out due to the noise mostly on Mastina’s part.

Myself and Bunny asked valid questions of how she got at 6.
I voted her initially for that to investigate if she had inside knowledge.

I was absolutely content in trying to talk things out and not have a battle.

For the most part I was lurking.

Mastina turned it into the me v Math show. So I defended myself.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:35 am
by MathBlade
In post 934, Yume wrote:And if you truly think she is wrong, then explain WHY you think she is wrong. Like, list all of the reasons each and every player she called scum aren't scum. You think none of them are actually scum? Prove it!

And I know what your next post will be 'I am not gonna do that because I am right and I don't have to prove anything to you or anyone else yadda yadda yadda'. Which would be the exact shit you're accusing her of.
Okay the simple answer:
1) I have been working to build a town block with people since the start of the game. It’s incredibly important I do.
2) My meta read on FA is in direct discrepancy with Mastina and it’s that she’s likely town.
3) I have been collaborating with TBone throughout the game phase and I like what I am getting back.

Mastina’s reads are unexplained where you can see I have been desperately trying to back seat this game and note agreement constantly.

Her scumreads are literally all my TRs.

I called professor town and the wagon would dissolve and I was right.

Like the game is literally matching every expectation I have if my reads are correct

Mastina is a bunch of “cuz I said so”

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:37 am
by MathBlade
In post 925, T-Bone wrote:
In post 917, Yume wrote:Vote prof.

Image

The Hypnotoad compels you to.
Gimmick infringement
She = FA likely town to be clear

I am on my phone

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:40 am
by MathBlade
Like regardless of Mastina flip you’ll see me go back to being the quietest I have ever been if I live at all.

And if I don’t I think my TRs are pretty clear and I wish them the best.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:40 am
by Yume
In post 937, MathBlade wrote:
In post 934, Yume wrote:And if you truly think she is wrong, then explain WHY you think she is wrong. Like, list all of the reasons each and every player she called scum aren't scum. You think none of them are actually scum? Prove it!

And I know what your next post will be 'I am not gonna do that because I am right and I don't have to prove anything to you or anyone else yadda yadda yadda'. Which would be the exact shit you're accusing her of.
Okay the simple answer:
1) I have been working to build a town block with people since the start of the game. It’s incredibly important I do.
2) My meta read on FA is in direct discrepancy with Mastina and it’s that she’s likely town.
3) I have been collaborating with TBone throughout the game phase and I like what I am getting back.

Mastina’s reads are unexplained where you can see I have been desperately trying to back seat this game and note agreement constantly.

Her scumreads are literally all my TRs.

I called professor town and the wagon would dissolve and I was right.

Like the game is literally matching every expectation I have if my reads are correct

Mastina is a bunch of “cuz I said so”
Not good enough for me. Explain why you townread each of them, and explain it thoroughly.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:44 am
by Yume
In post 940, Yume wrote:
In post 937, MathBlade wrote:
In post 934, Yume wrote:And if you truly think she is wrong, then explain WHY you think she is wrong. Like, list all of the reasons each and every player she called scum aren't scum. You think none of them are actually scum? Prove it!

And I know what your next post will be 'I am not gonna do that because I am right and I don't have to prove anything to you or anyone else yadda yadda yadda'. Which would be the exact shit you're accusing her of.
Okay the simple answer:
1) I have been working to build a town block with people since the start of the game. It’s incredibly important I do.
2) My meta read on FA is in direct discrepancy with Mastina and it’s that she’s likely town.
3) I have been collaborating with TBone throughout the game phase and I like what I am getting back.

Mastina’s reads are unexplained where you can see I have been desperately trying to back seat this game and note agreement constantly.

Her scumreads are literally all my TRs.

I called professor town and the wagon would dissolve and I was right.

Like the game is literally matching every expectation I have if my reads are correct

Mastina is a bunch of “cuz I said so”
Not good enough for me. Explain why you townread each of them, and explain it thoroughly.
And by that, I mean that I want at least one reason you think each of them is town, not this broadsweep shizz.

What I mean is, do a '[name] is town for X, Y and Z reasons'. Can you do that?

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:44 am
by MathBlade
Not at work but I can later tonight sure.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:50 am
by Yume
And if you TR them solely because they all scumread mastina, then I will be disappointed.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:54 am
by MathBlade
In post 943, Yume wrote:And if you TR them solely because they all scumread mastina, then I will be disappointed.
I know and I don’t.

Their reads on Mastina are irrelevant to why I TR them.

Most of you look at my ISO may not have even spoken about her yet.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:09 am
by T-Bone
I haven't claimed town reads on anyone yet so if you're after me to defend some set of people I haven't cared enough to post about then...no?

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:12 am
by MathBlade
In post 945, T-Bone wrote:I haven't claimed town reads on anyone yet so if you're after me to defend some set of people I haven't cared enough to post about then...no?
Yume is pushing on me as I tend to reflexively TR people who are with me which can be true at times.

However I townread FA before Mastina did whatever you wanna call it against me.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:14 am
by T-Bone
You mirrored my language in #934 to make some sort of point Yume but it falls flat because I did not choose my language based on Mastina's reads. I welcome your ire if you want to aim it at me, but I would recommend trying to understand my point of view and the behavior I am viewing as anti-town that I think is coming from Mastina first instead of asking me to defend a point of view I don't have nor am voicing.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:15 am
by MathBlade
In post 336, MathBlade wrote:
In post 44, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 19, mastina wrote:
In post 18, mastina wrote:REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that. :shifty:

Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that. :shifty:

Hi, I am town. :)
(Okay but for real, I intend to be a BEACON this game, REVEALING the TRUE COLORS of all.)
shifty is patent protected btw. :shifty:
In post 34, Yume wrote:I am Talia. Believe it or not, it's true. As true as the fact that Aegon the Conqueror had two wives.
Who is talia?

This is fascinating though and I want to say it loud what most probably thought about too:
In post 22, MegAzumarill wrote:
In post 20, furtiveglance wrote:Meg, is there any public information about Dusk/Dawn phases? Are they different?
Both Dusk and Dawn function as normal Mafia game eliminations, as well as Noon and Night function as normal mafia game night phases. They are functionally identical except they are distinct.
So it seems that Noon is the night phase for the Solar cult and the night is the night phase for the Lunar cult. In other words, based on flavor we can guess that the cults are even/off phase mechanically. But guess we'll see when we go

Anyways missed you, my friends. long time no see <3 been a while since I played a game here

VOTE: Bunnyonce
I like this post from FA here. Seems incredibly honest. Whether honest town or honest scum tbd but willing to give honest town for now.
Here you go.

I townread FA for getting into what I feel is mech spec that makes sense. It’s clean and concise and well laid out. It’s clear that it’s a hypothesis and not absolute. I can follow the premises made directly and I feel like I am in FA’s shoes.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:15 am
by T-Bone
In post 946, MathBlade wrote:
In post 945, T-Bone wrote:I haven't claimed town reads on anyone yet so if you're after me to defend some set of people I haven't cared enough to post about then...no?
Yume is pushing on me as I tend to reflexively TR people who are with me which can be true at times.

However I townread FA before Mastina did whatever you wanna call it against me.
I'm like 75% the post was originally directed at me even if you caught flak afterwards, since Yume chose to mirror my language in the post I made to Mastina.