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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:33 am
by mongoose
Yeah, I thought the same too. i think they think you are lurking too much and want you to talk more. I didnt really catch a reason though. I would like to point out that Fate hit town with the smash ball and afterwards got nacho the smashball, who didnt do anything with it. So to be honest Im not 100% sure about Fate, and agree with MPR asking for a reason. I still think bunnylover needs to explain, btw.

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:15 am
by Stels
Back from my V/LA.
Fate wrote:If I have to get my reads right then I should probably stop this right now.

Unvote:


Trust me Bunny isn't some mastermind crumbing something elaborate.

He's just not mafia.

Now let's look who jumped on.
What happened to the wagon analysis Fate?
Straight after this post, you vote for MPR. Yes, he's been lurking, at least he's still here unlike *cough*Vezok*cough*
Did your wagon analysis that you 'kept to yourself' reveal that there was not a single scum on the wagon? Is that why you voted for MPR who was lurking?
^^Not demanding one, just want to know, what made you switch to MPR?

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:54 am
by danakillsu
Mehplusrawr is a lame, unfounded wagon, just like the vezokener one. The Bunnylover is founded, but not as much as the mongoose one. I would be up for a mongoose, Bunny, or even Fate lynch, but people really should be voting for mongoose more.

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:24 am
by Zaziesurio
@Esurio: Do you have to absorb a phase prior to use? or can you absorb and use in the same phase?

None of your business until I decide it is. I fail to see how this information is helpful to town.

So to be honest Im not 100% sure about Fate
I appreciate someone else having healthy scepticism and all, but this coming from you is not particularly helpful to injecting that healthy scepticism into the Fate Fanclub. Sorry.

ZazieR still hasn't posted? WHAT A FRELLING SURPRISE

/lurk

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:11 am
by Fate
danakillsu wrote:Mehplusrawr is a lame, unfounded wagon, just like the vezokener one. The Bunnylover is founded, but not as much as the mongoose one. I would be up for a mongoose, Bunny, or even Fate lynch, but people really should be voting for mongoose more.
HEY I FORCED BUNNY TO CHANGE HIS VOTE. WHY DIDN'T YOU UPGRADE YOUR FOS?

Not following through on your threats? Why, because you want to sit on that lame mongoose mislynch wagon still?

Hah.

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:12 am
by Fate
MehPlusRawr wrote:Could you guys post some reasons for wagoning me and such?

"omg fate said hes scum so time to vote!" is invalid.
Could you guys post some content about who you think is scum?

"omg im a lurkin failure and scummy as town dun lynch me" is invalid.

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:50 am
by tanstalas
MehPlusRawr wrote:Could you guys post some reasons for wagoning me and such?

"omg fate said hes scum so time to vote!" is invalid.
Did you skip over my post?

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p2464109

Along with reasons others have mentioned, Gollum seemed to be buddying up to you a bit, and now that he is confirmed scum, I'm going after his scum-buddy now

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:40 am
by MehPlusRawr
tanstalas wrote:Finally done the re-read sheesh that took awhile

Lynch Vote: MPR



Gollum sticking up for MPR
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p2414952

Gollum sticking up for MPR again
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p2418516

As Furry stated - bolded important parts
Furry wrote:Also MPR still needs lynching.

So far
he has voted two people for wagoning him for no reason
(not a bad thing, kids these days think it is for some reason) and suggested possibly the worst SB strategy out there. Link this is irrelevent to this case, only important for fate being town. I am sad no one has figured it out yet as to why it makes fate town.
And again
Furry wrote:MPR is still super scum.

Check out
how he seems to put down SSK for hammering
(when it was really L-1)
before hammering himslf
. Regardless of diddin flip, which I really am not too sure on, leaning scum despite my views on VT claims, MPR still is scummy due to this.
Like Pik pointed out, MPR made a comment to lynch someone but didn't put a vote down himself..
MehPlusRawr wrote:Bunny- Who SHOULD we have given it to!? Of course we won't hit scum every time. And there are DEFINITELY not only 3 scum, and probably not 5. You're saying "Fate's a good scumhunter but we shouldn't have given him a vig because he might not have killed scum." IIRC, you voted him as town too.

Can we lynch this dude?

MPR quick to jump on Gollum's "Lets vote off gandalf" train (was the post directly after Gollum posted)

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p2439077

Gollum seemed to try and discourage people to get off the MPR wagon not once, but twice and also calls out seth for voting for MPR as well.

On the flipside, I'm starting to think that mongoose may be town (or at least on a different mafia faction than the one Gollum was on) as he was pushing a mongoose lynch hard (I know, I know, bussing happens)
Wow. Terrible.

1. Scum buddying up to townies.
2. When a new player is all "I see a wagon and no cases on the player, and I'm going to join it," it strikes me as scummy.
3. I already explained this. People should be aware of hammering, and not say "Oops, I forgot to get a claim." That struck me as an accidental hammer- I had no qualms about him being lynched, but I had qualms about him being lynched unintentionally.
4. I often ask such rhetorical questions, as my wagons never start. It's more of a general "What does everyone think of this guy?" than "I WANT TO HANG HIM FROM A NOOSE RIGHT NOW!"
5. IIRC that was a role-guilty or similar. I always vote off role guilties, as there's one scum guaranteed between the guy who claims a guilty and the guy he claimed a guilty on.

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:04 pm
by danakillsu
@ Fate
He decided to vote along with you, so the issue is resolved. Unless you try to do something similar or many others vote for you, me voting for you would be useless.

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:52 pm
by danakillsu
:( What happened to this game....?

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:55 pm
by tanstalas
danakillsu wrote::( What happened to this game....?
Stop disturbing me, trying to watch this paint dry...

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:58 pm
by Kocc42
UM, the obv lynch here is mongoose. every new post he makes just reassures me of his mafia ness.

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:13 pm
by The Master Hand
Lynch count!


mothrax (0):
Pikachu (0):
kocc42 (0):
manho (0):
MehPlusRawr (6): tanstalas, Fate, Bunnylover, Furry, Chronopie, manho
singersigner (0):
Fate (0):
Stels (0):
Kirbyoshi (0):
Nachomamma8 (0):
xVEZOKNERx (0):
Zaziesurio (0):
mongoose (7): CJMiller, danakillsu, Kirbyoshi, Zaziesurio, MehPlusRawr, SharkFinn, Kocc42
Bunnylover (3): Framm 18, mothrax, mongoose
Framm 18 (0):
Furry (0):
Chronopie (1): Pikachu
tanstalas (0):
danakillsu (0):
SharkFinn (0):
CJMiller (0):

Not Voting (3): Everyone Else

With 20 alive it's 11 to lynch!



Town votes!


mothrax (0):
Pikachu (16): Zaziesurio, Bunnylover, mongoose, Pikachu, danakillsu, MehPlusRawr, Pikachu, Kirbyoshi, Stels, SharkFinn, Furry, Chronopie, Fate, Kocc42, mothrax, tanstalas
kocc42 (0):
manho (0):
MehPlusRawr (0):
singersigner (0):
Stels (0):
Kirbyoshi (0):
xVEZOKNERx (0):
Zaziesurio (0):
mongoose (0):
Bunnylover (0):
Framm 18 (0):
Furry (1): CJMiller
Chronopie (0):
tanstalas (0):
danakillsu (0):
PaltryExcuse (0):
CJMiller (0):

Not Voting (3): Everyone else

It is Day 3! With twenty players, it takes eleven to lynch!
Deadline is on September 9th, 2010!
At deadline, Pikachu would receive the Smash Ball.
Fate and Nachomamma8 may no longer compete for the Smash Ball.
CJMiller, Chronopie, singersigner, and Nachomamma8 are being prodded

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:16 pm
by danakillsu
@ Stels
Why is your vote not on anyone? You're the only at all active player whose vote is not on anyone.

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:18 pm
by tanstalas
Kocc42 wrote:UM, the obv lynch here is mongoose. every new post he makes just reassures me of his mafia ness.
I'm not liking the Mongoose BW as I can count a few people on there that I am "iffy" about (MPR, Kirby and Dana)

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:19 pm
by danakillsu
:O
Why are you "iffy" about me? Or Kirbyoshi for that matter?

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:28 pm
by tanstalas
danakillsu wrote::O
Why are you "iffy" about me? Or Kirbyoshi for that matter?
If I say why I am iffy about you, you are likely to go into another tirade about your massclaim idea, and to stop bringing it up. Yeah, basically the fact that in most of your posts you are telling us you are town, over and over, repeatedly.

Kirby on the other hand, depends on what MPR flips, as I mentioned in one of my earlier posts

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:30 pm
by CJMiller
Starting tomorrow I will have pretty much no time for mafia so:

Mod: Replace me.

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:32 pm
by danakillsu
That's really not a great reasoning process. There are two people that are "iffy" to you (and I don't think they should be but...) and one who is connected to one of them on the wagon, so you won't vote for mongoose. Come on. Even if you believe we're scum, scum sometimes bus. And you don't seem to be willing to say we're scum, so it's all rather pitiful. I find your reasons somewhat suspicious, in fact.

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:52 pm
by tanstalas
danakillsu wrote:That's really not a great reasoning process. There are two people that are "iffy" to you (and I don't think they should be but...) and one who is connected to one of them on the wagon, so you won't vote for mongoose. Come on. Even if you believe we're scum, scum sometimes bus. And you don't seem to be willing to say we're scum, so it's all rather pitiful. I find your reasons somewhat suspicious, in fact.
Wait.. what? You are giving me grief for my reasoning process for my vote? Holy crap, talk about the teapot calling the kettle black. (And I mentioned three people, not two)

Lets recap:

danakillsu wrote:
Lynch vote: mongoose

Does town voting do something today? It's all a little confusing to me.
Where is the reasoning for this vote?

danakillsu wrote:@ Kirbyoshi
His logic is confusing in the extreme, and it kind of seems intentional. It looks a lot like scum trying to confuse us about what he really believes. Also, some of his statements, like his "my f key is stuck" give me a bad gut feeling about him, like he's breadcrumbing a lot or something. Add to that his active (unlike vezokener) lurking, and you have a good lynch candidate.
Oh - finally you gave some reasoning for your vote ... a day later and all you could come up with was the above? You say a bunch of stuff, but don't explain it, his logic is confusing? Can you cite some examples? Him saying a keyboard key is stuck gives you a bad feeling about him?

Now, I am in no way saying that Mongoose is obv-town, I just think that MPR is a better lynch, and like I said (and gave reasoning too - and IMO a lot better reasoning than yours on Mongoose's) the people on that BW seem "iffy" to me.

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:48 pm
by Chronopie
err... I posted yesterday. Why the prod?

Still down for a mongoose or MPR lynch.

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:03 pm
by singersigner
Oops, sorry guys. I've been forgetting to post updates on my thoughts in the thread because I've been trying to catch up and sort through all the jibberish. At this point in the game (with 39 pages to sift through), I can't really make a case against anyone but mongoose and MPR, so I'm going to
Lynch Vote: mongoose
, since atm, he seems scummier. I'll post more thoughts about why later (probably tomorrow after 8pm PST).

Though, manho...why are you "buddying with fate," exactly?

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:16 pm
by manho
singersigner wrote:Oops, sorry guys. I've been forgetting to post updates on my thoughts in the thread because I've been trying to catch up and sort through all the jibberish. At this point in the game (with 39 pages to sift through), I can't really make a case against anyone but mongoose and MPR, so I'm going to
Lynch Vote: mongoose
, since atm, he seems scummier. I'll post more thoughts about why later (probably tomorrow after 8pm PST).

Though, manho...why are you "buddying with fate," exactly?
it's sad in HK and i don't have the mood to read the game for now. so buddying with fate is the best move. read it if you want to know what's happened.

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:37 pm
by mongoose
wow good job singer. Let me read through the thread and say that my suspects are the two people that have the most lynch votes. I think I'll lynch the one with most. So MY behavior is scummy, but HER'S isnt? Also, the MPR wagon doesnt really impress me. Its more like Gollum trying to get someone lynched after he dies, I honestly think bunny lover is a safer lynch.

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:57 am
by danakillsu
Tanstalas obviously didn't read through my post, and is just trying to say, "no, you", so his post does not merit a reply.
@ mongoose
Her behavior is much less scummy, imo. It just seems scummy to you because she voted for you. For those on your wagon, she is a smart one.
And just so everyone knows, I can guarantee that bunnylover and chronopie will not be lynched today, so you might as well not vote for them. If everyone would just choose mongoose or MPR, I think we could prevent a lot of useless crap from creeping into this thread.