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Or he could have just been town who thinks you are scum

Your lurking argument was terrible and you pushed it way too much. The only person who agreed on it was.. oh yes scum.

Scum who you called obvtown and cant explain said read

Seems to me like you were buddying

Slaandar I've explained my read many times. Your failure to read isn't my issue.

He saw your case on Malee for the bullshit it was. I saw the exact same thing. You yourself have said you were purposefully playing 'Anti-Town'. You just don't understand the difference between scummy and Anti-Town.

And I don't think you understand the concept of buddying ...

At this point I'd ask you to do something useful but I know it's not going to happen. Back to ignoring you ...

That wasnt being Antitown

The Malee accusation was legit

Those posts are very suspicious

I have done many things useful like making a brilliant case on SD which was ignored

Why is it you dont pester Nexus or Dr or any of these other useless people?

@Kdub - My opinion on BB is that he's probably town. To do the day 1 claim like he did would take either a dumb town moment or a calculated scum gambit. However, after Drmyshotgun, he's the least protown player posting today and if a wagon were to swing around to him, while I would try to talk people out of it, I wouldn't relish the task.

@Magna - I assure you I am town. As stated before, I'm willing to argue with anyone who thinks I'm scum. I always call the facts like I see them no matter the role. Sure, I was fishing for some info in post 798, but it's not as though the fishing was baseless. You had already claimed credit for directing what should be a town nightkill. You wouldn't have mentioned it had you not wanted to talk about it, so my 'fishing' was the obligatory 'Go on...' conversation tool. I'm going to assume my scummy behavior in post 846 was throwing out my suspicions without analysis. Drmyshotgun was hardly in need of analysis, and all I did concerning you is call you not a solid town read.

↑ MagnaofIllusion wrote:Cow’s vote on BB is really stretching …

Sure, but I feel strongly about this. I think scum are more likely to joke about being scum.

Anyone else feel like MoI is buddying me?

↑ Slandaar wrote:Why is it you dont pester Nexus or Dr or any of these other useless people?

Here's a question - which of the three of you is confirmed Town?

I have 160 posts

You might not like my content, but it is there.

So tell me why you are pestering conf town and not scumbags who have posted nothing?

↑ BBmolla wrote:Go to the link and look up some of the ways he pushed his wagons on players.

It reads very much the same.

I'm not seeing it. It would help if you gave specific examples and presented your own analysis of why his play here is similar.

Also, I would like to point out that your original claimed reason for suspecting Nexus specifically mentioned the fact that he was lurking. Now you're saying it has to do with the way he pushes cases on people. It's not a complete backtrack, but it looks very much like you just quickly grabbed some suspects once more people started to notice your non-contribution and are trying to manufacture a case on them after the fact.

↑ MagnaofIllusion wrote:If you don’t buy these explanations why are you willing to give me more time? That’s the part of your post that is blatantly off. You’ve made all these points suggesting my explanations are lies (which isn’t Town) and yet are unwilling to push on me. That’s not Town behavior as opposed to scum behavior who KNOWS lynching me is going to be a long, hard fight that probably ends up back-firing on at least 1 scum.

Several factors. First, I had a slight town read on you yesterday. Second, your explanation for the kill, though dubious, isn't a smoking gun. Finally, your ability is basically proven, and your future actions with that ability can potentially go a long way determining your alignment, both by analyzing the setup balance and whether you use it in a pro-town manner.

↑ Shmugen wrote:@Kdub - My opinion on BB is that he's probably town. To do the day 1 claim like he did would take either a dumb town moment or a calculated scum gambit. However, after Drmyshotgun, he's the least protown player posting today and if a wagon were to swing around to him, while I would try to talk people out of it, I wouldn't relish the task.

OK, but that seems out of line with this earlier post...

↑ Shmugen wrote:BB, one more role fish out of you and I'll join Kdub as hard as I can.

What was that all about if you think BB is town?

After day one, BB was somewhere around an 8/10, with 10 being town and 0 being scum. As day two progresses, he's been slipping as he has not been acting in a protown manner and is currently hovering around a 5. What I perceived as rolefishing ended up being him simply taunting me, but I wanted it to stop posthaste. I applied what influence I have to that end.

↑ Kdub wrote:Also, I would like to point out that your original claimed reason for suspecting Nexus specifically mentioned the fact that he was lurking. Now you're saying it has to do with the way he pushes cases on people. It's not a complete backtrack, but it looks very much like you just quickly grabbed some suspects once more people started to notice your non-contribution and are trying to manufacture a case on them after the fact.

He lurked in that game.

But then whole game did.

So I don't know how relevent that is.

Kdub vs BBmolla looks to be townvtown

moar nexus votes plz

↑ 4nxi3ty wrote:Kdub vs BBmolla looks to be townvtown

Ok I'm requesting replacement.
As much as I hate to do it I have neither the will nor time- that this game deserves- to catchup and stay caught up.
Sorry for not realizing this sooner.

Shmugen you thought BB was town on day 1?

Why?

I really dislike the shmugen/BB interactions

They are not town/town

Bye Andrius.

Dr you read the thread or not?

Everyone remember this:

↑ drmyshotgun wrote:Hi guys! I'm replacing Midnight's Sorrow.
Will catch up soon, but frankly there's like 30 pages.
Can I take some time? Seems Town is doing fine here. Only that deadline is very imminent.

Catchup soon never happened

In 10 days dr has done nothing.

↑ drmyshotgun wrote: I see that you are confirmed Town here? That's good. Good. For your sake.

This is scumposting

Hes saying hes scum who would have pushed my lynch. Town dont say this type of thing because they work out said persons alignment before pushing lynches.

VOTE: Drmyshotgun

Now lynch Dr.

↑ Slandaar wrote:Shmugen you thought BB was town on day 1?

Why?

By the end of Day 1 I thought BB was town. I agreed with the general idea of PeregrineV's push on BB regarding breadcrumbing in this game being a scummy thing to do. After BB's claim and the way he handled the situation, I thought he was more likely to be town. His responses to Kdub's pressure struck me as genuine and not from someone who invented a claim.

All my thoughts and conversations are genuine, Slandaar, now and forever. I agree with you that Dr has been worse than useless, but you've been calling for Nexus' head all game.

I am unsure how to convince people to not blaster me.

↑ Shmugen wrote:

↑ Slandaar wrote:Shmugen you thought BB was town on day 1?

Why?

By the end of Day 1 I thought BB was town. I agreed with the general idea of PeregrineV's push on BB regarding breadcrumbing in this game being a scummy thing to do. After BB's claim and the way he handled the situation, I thought he was more likely to be town. His responses to Kdub's pressure struck me as genuine and not from someone who invented a claim.

All my thoughts and conversations are genuine, Slandaar, now and forever. I agree with you that Dr has been worse than useless, but you've been calling for Nexus' head all game.

I am unsure how to convince people to not blaster me.

Like I said before, as long as you don't attack MoI, you should be fine. That being said, I will repeat we should be lynching people that will post and Blastering people who don't. Blaster fire is a perfect solution to cull lurkers. When we can actually interact with a player during the lynching process we are left with much more information than if we lynch a lurker a blaster a suspicious player. That's why what MoI did last night is inexcusable for town in my book. I think MoI is a good enough player to know this and hence my suspicion of him being scum.

Shmugen’s latest posts where he consistently goes out of his way to ‘affirm’ his Town status speaks of a level of worry about his survival that I find interesting.

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Cow wrote:Sure, but I feel strongly about this. I think scum are more likely to joke about being scum.

Anecdotally I’d say that my experience says 180 degrees the opposite – far more often than not I see Town (bad Town, but Town all the same) making jokes about being scum.

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BBMolla wrote:Anyone else feel like MoI is buddying me?

Lulz. Really? I’d actually have said the opposite since you were all “MoI I love you” when I was busy fighting off the rather stupid momentum towards your lynch yesterday.

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Slandaar wrote:So tell me why you are pestering conf town and not scumbags who have posted nothing?

Heavy lies the Crown dear boy. You’ve become confirmed Town. Your responsibility is at this stage to do more, not less, based on that status. Don’t like it? Tough luck buddy. Them’s the breaks. And by more I mean effective driving of lynches and scum-hunting. Not more as in flitting around the thread posting random posts about whatever strikes your fancy at the moment.

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Kdub wrote:Several factors. First, I had a slight town read on you yesterday. Second, your explanation for the kill, though dubious, isn't a smoking gun. Finally, your ability is basically proven, and your future actions with that ability can potentially go a long way determining your alignment, both by analyzing the setup balance and whether you use it in a pro-town manner.

So you’ve spent a significant portion of today stating your ‘suspicion’ that you never intended to move on in the first place? How is that Pro-Town behavior at all? If you are Town you’d have been better served pursuing players you actually think are scum and want to lynch. As it stands it just looks like you were plugging your ‘suspicions’ into place to make sure you were positioned to move in my direction as opposed to actually scum-hunting.

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Anxiety wrote: Kdub vs BBmolla looks to be townvtown

moar nexus votes plz

Oh look … the Zang tell out of one of my top 5 scum suspects who happens to be actively lurking. Nice.

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Wrath wrote: Like I said before, as long as you don't attack MoI, you should be fine. That being said, I will repeat we should be lynching people that will post and Blastering people who don't. Blaster fire is a perfect solution to cull lurkers. When we can actually interact with a player during the lynching process we are left with much more information than if we lynch a lurker a blaster a suspicious player. That's why what MoI did last night is inexcusable for town in my book. I think MoI is a good enough player to know this and hence my suspicion of him being scum.

Your opinion on my use of what is effectively a Vig really doesn’t matter much. I’ll be frank – your stance that I’m Mafia / Serial Killer who shot Syndrome and then came right out and claimed it under zero pressure today is pretty preposterous and stupid.

Syndrome was hardly the paragon of ‘active players’ you are wanting to suggest. He pretty much weighed in on only 1 player – me.

↑ MagnaofIllusion wrote:Lulz. Really? I’d actually have said the opposite since you were all “MoI I love you” when I was busy fighting off the rather stupid momentum towards your lynch yesterday.

lol