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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:56 pm
by TheTrollie
bk is scum. he is coaching when he said that I was right about the time lapse thing

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:59 pm
by BK201
so that's what you came up with, coaching?

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:27 pm
by RichardGHP
Second Vote Count of Day 4


Lynch

[1] VisMaior - [Espeonage]
[1] Espeonage - [VisMaior]
[1] TheTrollie - [BK201]

[4] Not Voting - [Salamence20, TheTrollie, Malakittens, image]

Quarantine

[1] Espeonage - [Espeonage]
[2] Malakittens - [VisMaior, BK201]

[4] Not Voting - [Salamence20, TheTrollie, Malakittens, image]


With 7 alive, it take four votes to lynch and four to quarantine. Deadline for this day is in (expired on 2012-08-05 16:20:00).

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:31 pm
by TheTrollie
we have ELEVEN days left. don't be stupid

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:17 pm
by Espeonage
Btw guys. If scum don't organise a quicklynch then it means that not only is one of myself and vis scum, but also one of BK and Trollie is scum.

If BK is scum I really need to thank him for making this game easier for us. If he is town then he's just stupid for taking the risk this early instead of tomorrow.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:18 pm
by Espeonage
Actually not true. That only applies if only one of me and Vis are scum. If we both were then it wouldn't apply.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:05 am
by TheTrollie
BK, will you at least remove your vote until I have responded to the list of Sal's reads?

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:49 am
by TheTrollie
BK201 wrote:actually 1 in 8, I forgot about quarantine.


so u are voting me because there is a 12% chance someone guessed to block me correctly? you do realize 12% is not
that
low, right?

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:56 am
by Espeonage
Ok so Vis and Trollie are both scum, cool.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:02 am
by TheTrollie
espe stop being dumb. I am not fucking scum dont lose this game with 11 days left

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:03 am
by Salamence20
Unfortunately you cant get a list until saturday when im at my comp.

Espe is town, i am town, mala is town if no one is lying.

Trollie. Are you town?

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:04 am
by Espeonage
Well one of you and BK is scum.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:07 am
by TheTrollie
sal, you do realize that if you think mala is town, its because you MUST THINK BK IS TOWN!!!!! do you get that?!?

also it seems like you have your list so why are you waiting till saturday?

The reason I am not sure of Sal is that I see no reason why the mafia RB would try so hard to be quarantined last night.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:11 am
by Salamence20
TheTrollie wrote:sal, you do realize that if you think mala is town, its because you MUST THINK BK IS TOWN!!!!! do you get that?!?

also it seems like you have your list so why are you waiting till saturday?

The reason I am not sure of Sal is that I see no reason why the mafia RB would try so hard to be quarantined last night.


Because, personally shotgun had to die yesterday.

The options you are giving me:

Bk is town, mala is town. This means we have to ask why he isnt dead yet.
Bk is scum, which explains everything, but doesnt tell us mala's alignment.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:17 am
by Espeonage
WHY DOES SCUM HAVE TO HAVE A ROLEBLOCKER??????????

WE HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THAT EITHER TROLLIE IS LYING OR TROLLIE

wait
shit
omg

Trollie is town.

fuck.

Hmmm.

Mala why did you have to screw up my scum quicklynch reasoning? BK is about 70% chance of being scum.
Trollie is town.

Vis needs rope today.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:19 am
by Espeonage
Ok gimme some time. Trollie's lack of results now take on a whole new meaning.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:21 am
by Salamence20
So if BK is 70% scum

Vis is >70% scum?

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:22 am
by Espeonage
Wait, no that's wrong, there might still be a roleblocker. Ok, I need to think.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:22 am
by Espeonage
Salamence20 wrote:So if BK is 70% scum

Vis is >70% scum?


No, Vis's correlation is with me, not BK.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:25 am
by Espeonage
UGH, I'm trying too hard to break this game.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:12 am
by VisMaior
By my read Espe, Sal and trollie are all top suspects. Its funny when scum is trying to persuade otehr scum hoping that some town will tag along for the ride. You guys suspect each other just to come to the conclusion that you are town.

No town should buy these:

Sal "And we buy his VT claim because???"
Then q post later "Im not lynching you over this fluff/useless posts.

Last time i did that i lost in LyLo.

Espeonage is probably town."

Then this:
"I still don't believe Trollie's claim in the slightest. But the fact that I won't get support for his lynch, even more so if he is scum means that I won't be able to bark up that tree until later."-> Youre scum but im not voting you. Classic scumtell
Sal "And why should we lynch a PR?" Its lylo?

trollie "sooo...is that you saying you are the scum RB?" To sal
Sal "I'm just telling everyone espe should not be lynched today if espe hasn't died yet." omg this is so bad...
"Seriously, if you guys weren't smart enough to espe day 1 for his VT claim, then I am not fucking up this time by lynching him because I am sure he is scummytown" whattt
Espe:"Nice reading out of context. If you paid attention when you read the thread you would know that the possibility of scum RBer was actually discussed on and off throughout the whole of the game. The quoted post is null, try again." This is a lie. It was mentioned, not discussed on and off. Also, stepping up for a scumbuddy.
Espe "I am so sure you are scum." Explain? getting nervous?
Trollie "CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY BK and MALA are town!?!?! i feel like a lot of people are saying that and I HAVE NO IDEA WHY!?!?"
Sure I could. And I will if actual townies ask for it.
"this is why i think the phil spot is town. Granted, i just ISO'd phil and there are a lot of red flags, but i just don't see scum-phil taking the time to look through mala's old games on that site. unless phil is super smart, that is.

oh, and espe is totally wrong, you guys can both be town and scum wouldn't want to gang up on you because if there were a lapse in timing between votes we would catch on.
"Oookay. So you think Im town, but dont want to cast a shadow over espe.
"WE HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THAT EITHER TROLLIE IS LYING OR TROLLIE

wait
shit
omg

Trollie is town."
Are you shitting me...

"UGH, I'm trying too hard to break this game." Careful to not break your brain in the process.


We need input from image, bk and mala.
I think both espe and trollie are a good candidate to lynch, and I would lynch sal over Image as of now, but Im less sure.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:04 am
by image
Sal not being able to summarize his reads until this weekend is awfully annoying, especially if Trollie is going to stonewall until they show up.

Espeonage, in the past page you've waffled a lot on Trollie/BK this page. What's your actual opinion on that pair? What suddenly made you think Trollie was the town?

Vis, you said you could semi-clear BK. Care to explain?
Also, in #885, you say that there is a scum RB between me and Sal. I can see the case for Sal (Trollie claims to have had a different result last night and Sal couldn't have blocked him but could have on the other two nights) but what makes me a better candidate for RB than anyone else who has never been quarantined?

Quarantine: Malakittens
. Regardless of whether BK is lying or not this is a good move.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:40 am
by Espeonage
It was based on something I missed. Which I have since found again, so I'm still undecided on them. I'm just really trying to break the game, atm.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:52 am
by TheTrollie
@espe:
Espeonage wrote:WHY DOES SCUM HAVE TO HAVE A ROLEBLOCKER??????????

WE HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THAT EITHER TROLLIE IS LYING OR TROLLIE

wait
shit
omg

Trollie is town.

fuck.

Hmmm.

Mala why did you have to screw up my scum quicklynch reasoning? BK is about 70% chance of being scum.
Trollie is town.

Vis needs rope today.


(1) scum has an RB because i was blocked after my claim and only scum has an interest in doing that

(2) in regards to vis: what do you think about my comment in 930 about why i think the phil slot is town?

@sal:
Salamence20 wrote:
TheTrollie wrote:sal, you do realize that if you think mala is town, its because you MUST THINK BK IS TOWN!!!!! do you get that?!?
also it seems like you have your list so why are you waiting till saturday?
The reason I am not sure of Sal is that I see no reason why the mafia RB would try so hard to be quarantined last night.

Because, personally shotgun had to die yesterday.

The options you are giving me:
Bk is town, mala is town. This means we have to ask why he isnt dead yet.
Bk is scum, which explains everything, but doesnt tell us mala's alignment.

Bolded part:
(1) what is that answering?
(2) what does that mean?

EVERYBODY: no one has commented on my analysis in 961. the quarantining points to sal as mafia RB but if sal is mafia RB why would he have cared so much about quarantining himself? He could have easily just accepted that it was twilight and that he escaped quarantine.

@sal: what happened that made you realize that you had hammered gunny?

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:11 am
by image
Maybe he was faking the appeal and expected the mod to deny his vote. Maybe he felt that the town points he hoped to gain from it would outweigh the loss of a roleblock last night. Maybe he's town and scum wanted to make it look like he was scum by letting your investigation through, Trollie. (That motivation to scum seems pretty unlikely, though, as the scum would need to know that you would get different flavour. He could just be town and the roleblocker targeted someone else for a different reason.)

Or maybe you're just scum trying to draw attention away from someone/something else.