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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:20 am
by Voidedmafia
In post 949, Oversoul wrote:When I replaced into this game serrapaladin stood out to me. He was currently playing in my own modded game Pokemon uPick and the overall appearance of his play there seemed a lot more interactive with the town as a whole. Here he isn't really being useful or contributing much.
Talk about ongoing games much?

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 11:11 am
by serrapaladin
Bah, I don't really know what I'm doing anyways, so go ahead and hammer if you want.

I'm an Alien (Survivor) and I abducted PimHel N1 and Voided N2. I originally did that so Voided's failing action would implicate shos, there'd be a chain of lynches and I could survive to endgame. I honestly have no idea why Voided claims his action worked. Either I was blocked or Voided is lying.

I have no idea who's scum, although if it's not Voided/shos my next best guess is actually Syry/Tierce. I really don't like playing survivor, so I tried to sort of stall my way to endgame. Unless someone blocked me, go ahead and lynch one of Voided/shos and you'll see I'm telling the truth.

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 11:15 am
by serrapaladin
VOTE: shos

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 11:42 am
by Oversoul
In post 950, Voidedmafia wrote:
In post 949, Oversoul wrote:When I replaced into this game serrapaladin stood out to me. He was currently playing in my own modded game Pokemon uPick and the overall appearance of his play there seemed a lot more interactive with the town as a whole. Here he isn't really being useful or contributing much.
Talk about ongoing games much?
Really Voided, really?

re: the claim... I need to look up that role.

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 11:51 am
by serrapaladin
It's basically a jailkeeper if I understand it correctly. I targeted Pim N1, which must have stopped his voteblock and Voided N2, so whatever ability shos gave him couldn't have worked.

!xmafia help Alien

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:55 pm
by The Rufflig
Ugh.

serrapaladin, as a claimed survivor, you now have the same credibility problem that you were trying to place on me. Furthermore, your claim places this game in
MYLO
- you'd have every reason to try and get a townie lynched. Your claim of having jailed Voided Mafia last night does not imply that shos is scum. Your alien claim does throw some doubt on Voided Mafia - if true. Which again is a problem - you have no need to be truthful as any mislynch is a win for you. I doubt you were blocked as that would make at least 3 roleblockers in this game.

As far as your alien claim goes - I'm somewhat skeptical. I can't disprove what happened with PimHel. I also can't disprove that you blocked Voided Mafia. You certainly could have claimed to have jailed Voided Mafia earlier in the day and forced a lynch on him. Though if Voided was mafia aligned then you would have been placed on the short list of people the scum want to nk and prolonged the game at least one more day. So, you would have had no real desire to come forth with your information. However, you do have a vested interest in getting one more mislynch today to win the game and an alien fake claim could be your means to that end.

Therefore, I will oppose any lynch that depends on your alien claim being true.

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 1:49 pm
by Kublai Khan
||| MAFIABOT || VOTE COUNT (5 to lynch) |||

||| MAFIABOT || Syryana - 2 (BBmolla Oversoul) |||
||| MAFIABOT || serrapaladin - 4 (The_Rufflig shos Voidedmafia Tierce) |||
||| MAFIABOT || shos - 1 (serrapaladin) |||

||| MAFIABOT || Living players: BBmolla Tierce serrapaladin shos Syryana The_Rufflig Oversoul Voidedmafia |||

In post 954, serrapaladin wrote:xmafia help Alien
||| MAFIABOT || Alien (town, survivor; common; 7+ players): You can abduct a player, preventing all actions involving that player. Actions: abduct |||

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 2:29 pm
by serrapaladin
I don't see how that makes this MyLo. I don't count towards a scum majority, nor do I know who scum is. If it comes to the point that scum claims and asks me to vote with them, I'd rather win with town instead.

I forgot that Varsoon was a Roleblocker, so in that case it's almost certainly Voided/shos. I see no reason for Voided to lie for shos unless they're scum together. I understand my credibility problem, but I genuinely did abduct Voided. Syry was a good mislynch target at the start of the Day, so I didn't claim anything then.

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 3:30 pm
by shos
Because if you can get the mafia to win with you you will, so the magia will win.

I approve of the lynch. If he flops scum, dunno if thar implicates vpided more. Im losing phone again..

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 3:59 pm
by serrapaladin
But that's the thing: I can't. I have no idea who they are, and if we mislynch at 2/6 scum left, there's nothing stopping scum from just nightkilling me for the unshared victory. I literally have no incentive to vote with scum unless it's LyLo, and even then I'd rather win with town. Lynching me will take you to actual MyLo.

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 4:14 pm
by The Rufflig
If the town mislynches and the mafia night kills a townie then the game will end at the break of dawn. You don't get to choose who you win with. It is done for you by the mod. If a win condition can be attained by counting the survivor as a member of some faction, then it will be attained. You don't even need to know who is in the faction.

I don't see the mafia night killing you and throwing away a guaranteed win.

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 5:11 pm
by Voidedmafia
In post 953, Oversoul wrote:Really Voided, really?
It looks like it, so.
In post 951, serrapaladin wrote:Either I was blocked or Voided is lying.
Considering I've only had an item on N1 and you blocked Pim N1...I don't know where you got this conclusion?

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 5:41 pm
by Voidedmafia
I mean, really, how does that even match up?

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 5:56 pm
by The Rufflig
Voidedmafia: Why are you being so dense lately? serrapaladin claims to have blocked you on n2 -- the same night you claimed to have successfully used what you got from shos.

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 6:14 pm
by Voidedmafia
...No, I never claimed that.

I got an item N1. It was used N1. I've never lied about when I used it.

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 6:15 pm
by Voidedmafia
Though if serra ever asked if I got and used an item N2 (which I do not recall off my head), please show me. And I mean asked SPECIFICALLY If I got and used on N2, not just if I used one.

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 11:19 pm
by shos
Ohhj you used it n1?? Didnt think you could...

Does anyone have a reason for him not yo claim what that power was?

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:16 am
by The Rufflig
!UNVOTE

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 1:41 am
by serrapaladin
In post 444, Voidedmafia wrote:Also, yes, I got an ability, though I'd have to look it up in PMs.
In post 445, serrapaladin wrote:Will you have any way of knowing whether your ability did what it was supposed to (to check whether he might be the mafia inventor type)?
In post 811, serrapaladin wrote:VM: Last night. Did you use whatever he gave you?
!vote Voided


I really don't see a reason for him to lie except to protect shos.

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 2:05 am
by serrapaladin
In post 960, The Rufflig wrote:If a win condition can be attained by counting the survivor as a member of some faction, then it will be attained. You don't even need to know who is in the faction.
Are you sure about this? If true, that would be pretty shit :/

@mod: if, at the break of dawn, there are 3 townies, 2 mafiosi and 1 survivor alive, does the mafia automatically win?
!xmafia help Survivor

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 4:49 am
by The Rufflig
Double UGH!!!

Voidedmafia: So you're claiming to have purposefully misdirected us. Clean up your mess and tell us why you did it.

Serrapaladin: Yes. Shos and I both told you. The mod won't help you. The survivor role does not have a description.

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 6:40 am
by Oversoul
How were you able to use the invention the night you received it?

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 7:11 am
by Voidedmafia
In post 970, The Rufflig wrote:Voidedmafia: So you're claiming to have purposefully misdirected us. Clean up your mess and tell us why you did it.
I saw him ask if I used an ability, so I thought he was referring to N1, not N2. I have been referring to N1 at all times regarding what I've receieved, so I haven't
purposefully
misdirected you

If serra did refer to N2 at some point, then sorry for not seeing that.

Now, Ruffling, explain what I would get by intentionally lying about this.

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 7:11 am
by Voidedmafia
In post 971, Oversoul wrote:How were you able to use the invention the night you received it?
...This is a dumb question, OS.

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 7:12 am
by Voidedmafia
In post 966, shos wrote:Does anyone have a reason for him not yo claim what that power was?
Does anyone have a reason why I should?