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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:59 pm
by Deacon Blues
I voted him in .

@Mod votecount is off.

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:00 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
In post 948, Kazekirimaru wrote:And yet there goes your vote, orc.
Dude if nobody's going to jump on with me I'm not going to waste my time. I can sit my vote on another lynch target while you people come around to senses

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:02 pm
by Mac
In post 949, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 947, Mac wrote:i will refuse to lynch nacho, i have a hardon for nacho-town right now.
NO MAC

DON'T BE DECEIVED

YOU'RE SLEEPING IN HIS BED OF LIESSSSS
I don't think I am kaze! LISTEN TO ME :(

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:03 pm
by Kazekirimaru
You should totally vote pitolinachomyko instead. We can be votepals. <3

I just realized I have no idea where my vote is right now.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: myko

Just in case.

PEdit: But...Mac...I have a Bad Feeling™ about him.

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:11 pm
by TheFuzzylogic99
I think a Pit wagon would be ok... Mac has made a decent case..Honestly I would like to see a Mafia or Myko lynch today

VOTE: Myko

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:21 pm
by TheFuzzylogic99
@ Myko
As somebody once said in a movie...." if we were in different circumstances we might of been friends. "Maybe one day we can play on a town team together . It just happened that you landed a scum slot

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:21 pm
by Mac
Vote: Myko

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:32 pm
by Yulia Jue
Vote Count 1.08


TEAR: What are you doing?


LUKE: H-hey! Don't look!


TEAR: Sorry, I just... I saw you with a notebook out and...


LUKE: Shut up already! I have to do this every day.


TEAR: Do what?


LUKE: Well...don't laugh, but...it's a diary.


TEAR: Oh. That's great.


LUKE: ...You're not gonna laugh at me?


TEAR: Why? There's nothing to laugh about. Though I didn't exactly think you
were the type to keep a diary.


LUKE: Humph... I'm not doing it because I want to.


TEAR: Oh? Then why...?


LUKE: ...The doctors make me do it, just in case I get amnesia again.


TEAR: ...!


LUKE: ...What?


TEAR: ...N-Nothing. Keep it up, okay?


LUKE: Tch, I don't need you feeling sorry for me!



With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch or no lynch.

Minami no Hana (3): Nachomamma8, Tammy, MafiaSSK (L-4)
mykonian (3): TheFuzzylogic99, Mac, Kazekirimaru (L-4)
The Rufflig (3): Deacon Blues, Minami no Hana, ProHawk (L-4)

Nachomamma8 (1): pitoli, (L-6)
Tammy (1): The Rufflig (L-6)
MafiaSSK (1): orcinus_theoriginal (L-6)
TheFuzzylogic99 (1): mykonian (L-6)

Previous votecount has been fixed. Let me know if there's anything wrong with this one.

Time Pool Left: 400 Hours
Absolute deadline falls on Wednesday, December 18th, at 4PM GMT -7.
This is in (expired on 2013-12-18 16:00:00)

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:22 pm
by mykonian
In post 943, Kazekirimaru wrote:Nacho, pitoli, myko

^ preferred lynchpool
how come your lynchpool consists only out of townies?
In post 955, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:@ Myko
As somebody once said in a movie...." if we were in different circumstances we might of been friends. "Maybe one day we can play on a town team together . It just happened that you landed a scum slot
and people still are somehow confused why I want to lynch fuzzy.

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:27 pm
by MafiaSSK
Myko, why aren't you worried about your wagon at all?

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:30 pm
by Mac
why the fuck are you still ignoring me?

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:31 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
In post 955, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:@ Myko
As somebody once said in a movie...." if we were in different circumstances we might of been friends. "Maybe one day we can play on a town team together . It just happened that you landed a scum slot
is this really goddamn forced or is it just me

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:42 pm
by mykonian
In post 959, MafiaSSK wrote:Myko, why aren't you worried about your wagon at all?
because I have the feeling it's not based on my play, so there's little I can do about it. I've read the thread, put my reads out, know what I want, told people what I want and now it's up to other people. Being worried is for people who have the idea they can influence what's going to happen.

and it's not you orcinus ;) Feeling sorry for a vote is I think more common with scum then town, depending on personality. It's in a long line of posts by fuzzy that are off. Not just posting "badly", but posting in a scummy manner. The newbie card has been played quite a bit here though, so I'm pushing a wagon with rather a bit of resistance, I guess.

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:45 pm
by Deacon Blues
@Myko Can you give some examples of him playing the newb card?

@Fuzzy, is English your first language?

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:57 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
Where did myko say that it was fuzzy playing the newb card?

I'd prefer to not lynch myko today.

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:59 pm
by Deacon Blues
In post 962, mykonian wrote:
In post 959, MafiaSSK wrote:Myko, why aren't you worried about your wagon at all?
because I have the feeling it's not based on my play, so there's little I can do about it. I've read the thread, put my reads out, know what I want, told people what I want and now it's up to other people. Being worried is for people who have the idea they can influence what's going to happen.

and it's not you orcinus ;) Feeling sorry for a vote is I think more common with scum then town, depending on personality. It's in a long line of posts by fuzzy that are off. Not just posting "badly", but posting in a scummy manner.
The newbie card has been played quite a bit here though
, so I'm pushing a wagon with rather a bit of resistance, I guess.
The bolded.

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:59 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
by people defending fuzzy

but ok

nacho's disappearance from thread is...sitewide?

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:03 pm
by Deacon Blues
I don't think it qualifies as a disappearance.

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:06 pm
by pitoli
Is the push on Myko based more on his reads or the reaction to Mara's weird exit?

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:31 pm
by mykonian
In post 963, Deacon Blues wrote:@Myko Can you give some examples of him playing the newb card?

@Fuzzy, is English your first language?
Is played. Not him playing it. There have been a couple of instances of people saying he was a badly writing town. And that's a bad sentence but I don't know how to say it neater right now. Maybe tomorrow when I've slept.

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:04 pm
by ProHawk
Speaking of vote counts... I voted Rufflig a long time ago.

Fixed.

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:05 pm
by Kazekirimaru
I just did a cursory metadive on Myko to see if I'm on the right track about this push. Checked out Micro 233, TM2102, and Newbie 1310 among others.

Myko posts quite often as town, usually being the most active/2nd. most active in the game, even in games where he replaces in halfway/has large gaps of inactivity. This is partially due to his tendency to post multiple times in a row as town. ScumMyko is significantly less active, preferring to quote-stripe rather than reply in multiple posts. TownMyko generally has a cheery disposition, often speaking pleasantries to people he's familiar with, happily fluffing on occasion. ScumMyko is much more serious and terse, getting down to business as soon as he hits the thread. TownMyko also appears to frequently use Smilies whereas ScumMyko almost never uses them. TownMyko also appears to reach out a bit for support on wagons/opinions on other players a bit more than ScumMyko does - ScumMyko rather takes a more "My reads are better than yours so follow me you derp" attitude. That's not to say he doesn't do this as both alignments, just far more as Scum than Town.

I'm by no means fantastic at Meta-reading, nor am I willing to base an entire read around Meta, but considering that Myko appears to be playing to his scum meta(along with the fact that Mara was scumming up the slot beforehand) I'm feeling incredibly confident about this push now.

So, yeah. Lynch him.

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:27 pm
by Deacon Blues
In post 971, Kazekirimaru wrote:I just did a cursory metadive on Myko to see if I'm on the right track about this push. Checked out Micro 233, TM2102, and Newbie 1310 among others.

Myko posts quite often as town, usually being the most active/2nd. most active in the game, even in games where he replaces in halfway/has large gaps of inactivity. This is partially due to his tendency to post multiple times in a row as town. ScumMyko is significantly less active, preferring to quote-stripe rather than reply in multiple posts. TownMyko generally has a cheery disposition, often speaking pleasantries to people he's familiar with, happily fluffing on occasion. ScumMyko is much more serious and terse, getting down to business as soon as he hits the thread. TownMyko also appears to frequently use Smilies whereas ScumMyko almost never uses them. TownMyko also appears to reach out a bit for support on wagons/opinions on other players a bit more than ScumMyko does - ScumMyko rather takes a more "My reads are better than yours so follow me you derp" attitude. That's not to say he doesn't do this as both alignments, just far more as Scum than Town.

I'm by no means fantastic at Meta-reading, nor am I willing to base an entire read around Meta, but considering that Myko appears to be playing to his scum meta(along with the fact that Mara was scumming up the slot beforehand) I'm feeling incredibly confident about this push now.

So, yeah. Lynch him.
Look at you! <3

Do you have links to the games you meta'd?

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:38 pm
by TheFuzzylogic99
Sadly my first language is English. Sometimes my brain goes faster than my hands so I don't always type the exact way I am thinking....My better posts is when i slow down and makes sure I am saying exactly what I am thinking.
I can see how some might mistake this for being a little scummy.

@ Orcinus

- I did not like how he came in and started to yell scum without reading everything. I also stated that what i saw from his town meta that this is not a town Myko as far as I could tell

- His reason for wanting me lynched were weak and a stretch.I would also say forced. For example he said I was scum bc I said sorry in one post. I have seen other players say sorry in their posts and no one yelled scum. It is clear by the context that I was trying to be polite. Even if it was not if you check my explanation with the post it pretty clear that the reason I give matches up with the stated post. The second reason given is that I asked questions instead of just blasting out accusation. He is basically basing me being scum based on a play style. I have been pretty consistent with the way I have played. I asked question and based on the answers I decided whether or not I should peruse a case against someone. I have tried to make cases against people I thought were scummy. He said my post are scummy but does not says how. What about my post that makes them scummy.
I admit I am awkward but this is normal for me. I even admitted this before. Maybe it is just me but it seems that he knows I am awkward and hopes to get an easy lynch by taking my words out of context or trying to portray my awkwardness as scummy

- My problem with Mara was that she was not only defensive and stand-offish but was excessively so.

- She admit lurking which is not scummy per-say but tried to frame her lurking as being okay but No Hana as scummy

- Her vote on Ornicus really seems like a OMGUS or perhaps a way to take attention away from herself.( I am talking pre meltdown)

-I do not know what to make of her meltdown since I seen both scum and tell meltdown before. I am guessing it was a scum meltdown since I believe with my heart


Also if the cop wants to investigate me I am fine with that. I welcome it.

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:51 pm
by Kazekirimaru
In post 972, Deacon Blues wrote:
Look at you! <3

Do you have links to the games you meta'd?
Heh. Aren't you proud? ^^

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=31352

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=21914

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=24407

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=23928

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=23781

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=23295

Micro 65 and 76 are a bit anomalous - Myko takes a bit more of an apathetic stance as he appears to have been considering taking a break around this time. Some of the same patterns are prominent, though.

I'd not mind a second set of eyes since it's entirely likely I'm just seeing what I want to see.