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In post 931, Kazekirimaru wrote:If you say so.

Can you explain your current vote to me? It feels odd. You come in talking about Kise on Rem and how you really like the points made there. You liked lush's push on bubba, too. But a couple posts later you just kinda decide morph is a better focus despite finding the case relatively confusing. Coincidentally, morph's wagon was gaining considerable traction at the time, so it would be an opportune moment for scum to hop on and ride the wave, so to speak. Can you talk me through this?

I'm not voting you.

The case on morph is nice and compact. Jaqen's direct interpretation is probably not quite right, but it's hard not to read the exchange as cadb looking to put a townslip on bubba, either for his own town-cred or bubba's.

@Mollie:

I saw your post earlier today. The more of see you in two days is because Chamber and I want to discuss the thread together. We are trying to find time between my work schedule in order to do this. I'm already halfway through the thread, (I stopped reading earlier at page 20.) but had to go to work. I have to agree with Chamber that reading the earlier pages was just meh. It's like those posts were sorta time sensitive you know and touching up on any of those subjects is like past history. I do have some reads, but I wanna discuss with Chamber before posting them.

In post 948, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:

In post 946, Lush Life wrote:

In post 932, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:In case anybody cares, that townsided as fuck micro is officially speakable about now.

~BC

so talk about it! I am listening.

Kagami and Kaze were both town in that game. And Kagami was all ~effort~ and it's not really here this time and I dunno what to make of it. (And Kaze self lynched day one lol but bygones, bygones) It's a short read. Micro 273: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=34836 (I took over for rach as mod)

~BC

I didn't want to be ~effort~ and was annoyed that I had to be effort and the town was just sitting there. Day 2 was long and stupid; I expected to say "I'm the JK, delta was in jail and we got a no kill" and see him lynched within a few hours instead of several days.

In post 941, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:

In post 936, SXTLHGaiden wrote:let me know if anyone wants my take on past events.

* raises hand *

~BC

1. bc
2. mollie

In post 944, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:

In post 943, Lush Life wrote:

In post 910, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Mollie that's a hydra and you probably know both of the heads. It should be obvious as to one of them at least.

~BC

we know we saw the email link that has since been removed. let them have their fun.

I like them. different playstyles since they come from a different site but I like them.

I actually have no clue what their email was I just kinda guessed it from the tone.

~BC

it was in their link, borky pointed it out to me.

I still like them.

but lets talk about messiah. I would like your take on that slot

In post 954, Lush Life wrote:

In post 944, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:

In post 943, Lush Life wrote:

In post 910, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Mollie that's a hydra and you probably know both of the heads. It should be obvious as to one of them at least.

~BC

we know we saw the email link that has since been removed. let them have their fun.

I like them. different playstyles since they come from a different site but I like them.

I actually have no clue what their email was I just kinda guessed it from the tone.

~BC

it was in their link, borky pointed it out to me.

I still like them.

but lets talk about messiah. I would like your take on that slot

I already read your mind on them, remember? I mean desp is running around signing up for other games but CBA to play this one?

In post 951, The Chamber of Kittens wrote:@Mollie:

I saw your post earlier today. The more of see you in two days is because Chamber and I want to discuss the thread together. We are trying to find time between my work schedule in order to do this. I'm already halfway through the thread, (I stopped reading earlier at page 20.) but had to go to work. I have to agree with Chamber that reading the earlier pages was just meh. It's like those posts were sorta time sensitive you know and touching up on any of those subjects is like past history. I do have some reads, but I wanna discuss with Chamber before posting them.

the points on that slot had nothing to do with history or even meta; it is the kind of post I would leap all over regardless of player but that it came from the 2 that it did made any scumreading on that slot sensitive. there was a shitton of info that spilled out from that section tho from other players so mebbe you can read some sections again if you have time?

In post 937, dramonic wrote:

In post 934, bubbajack8 wrote:

In post 933, dramonic wrote: @bubba: calling varsoon scummy for liking majiffy's case is... pretty dumb? You re the one who doesn't want to talk to majiffy.

I clarified this already. I said asking Jiffy to lead on me is scummy since I've made it clear I'm not responding to him.

Not responding to someone doesn't make them leading your case scummy. Heck, I should just say I won't respond to any of you and that makes you all scum by extension.

No it doesn't. I'm not saying it does. I'm saying that Varsoon TELLING Majiffy to lead it--- when I'm not RESPONDING to Majiffy is.

If Varsoon was leading it, it wouldn't be scummy... etc. Plus I think Lush is town -_-

In post 940, Lush Life wrote: also, bubba has not town flailed yet, that is actually the reason why I haven't gotten into a voting war with majiffy yet and he

has

made a couple of good points about bubbascum the only thing I can see bubba doing this as town too.

Like?

In post 955, GoodCop_BadCop wrote: I already read your mind on them, remember? I mean desp is running around signing up for other games but CBA to play this one?

I was hoping for a more in depth analysis.

and when I reread your post again I wondered if I was misconstruing what you were actually saying.

are you reading them as scum? if so what do you want to do about it?

majiffy and I are working things out. I am not going to push to move our vote until bubba starts town flailing, so far he kind of isn't. I feel like he has locked himself into a softclaim and will at some point have to deliver or be nked. <---- it really is as simple as that.

but more talk about messiah yeah?

In post 171, Messiah Complex wrote:I'm heading out to work a 10-10 and Fish is doing the same IIRC; content from us later.

Morph and Lush--we're town. Are you guys town?

Because if you're town, and we can sort that out quickly, the scum are borked (hahagetit). So let's not dilly-dally, yeah?

- Des

Reach out as commented upon. My initial thought was "why does scumdesp do this after snowing mollie" but then like ten seconds later I was like "oh wait this is exactly what I'd do if I had just snowed mollie"

In post 404, Messiah Complex wrote:

In post 403, Mac wrote:BLA BLA BLA

i'm catching up today. see you soon

Hey so are we!

Wanna schedule a date to chat? I'll be here around 7pm EST

- Des

Never followed up on so eh.

In post 701, Messiah Complex wrote:I fucking hate my new boss, what should have been an 8 hour day turned into a 12 hour one, which I went straight home to a pissy fiancé and 4 month old that refused to be put down.

Desp and I did have a chance to talk briefly last night though. We are breaking the thread down into easier to handle blocks because Jesus fuck 29 pages...

I am going first and will try to have observations and analysis from the first 10 pages. Anything I should know going into this?

Oh, and just to avoid confusion, I generally don't sign my posts, while Desp does. I figure that you'd have to be functionally retarded to confuse us.

My apologies to all you functional retards in this thread.

Fish makes a post but once again mostly just fluff.

So there's not much to read into this but the fact that both heads are a postin elsewhere is one of those big red flags and or X thingies that Andrious (RIP buddy, we miss you come back) likes to use.



~BC

In post 957, bubbajack8 wrote:Like?

clarification question: are you wanting to know what town flail looks like or what majiffy's couple of good points were?

A man would be happy to talk town with Lady Lush. A man has seen that we aren't seeing things the same as one another and this would be as good a time as any to synch up. Lengthy discussions are often productive

Let's start with Kagami. Overall a girl seems to have no care what others think of her posts. She's asking the the right questions. A man is unsure how to take her nonchalant attitude to the repeated scum accusations. A man doesn't remember playing with or watching a girl play.

I'm pretty sure a man has the same view as m'lady on Mac. He's way too inactive to be scummac, as backwards as that may seem to anyone who hasn't played with him. Though to be fair, a man has never seen him very active on D1 regardless of alignment. He also seems to be trying to unite rather than divide.

A man would very much like dramatic to taste his steel, but his name hasn't been whispered and his soul would likely not sate the gods at any cause. The fact a boy wants Jaqen to speak with the common tongue illustrates his desire to understand and figure things out, which gives him a de facto town status.

While discussing town is productive, a man would like to briefly talk about scum soon. Particularly his propensity to latch onto an early bus vote as scum with a town who is being ignored for later credit. A boy often camps that vote until getting off doesn't turn into a purple wedding. Which, I suppose soft clears hot pie. As a test to be sure, a man believes this will be left untouched and uncommented on because it wasn't read.

Kise is another a man isn't sure if a Lady sees the town in like a man does. At the least there seems to be some going back and forth on. Is that just so? Kise gave an early tell which a man has seen before and doesn't care what else he may say at this point. Later, maybe. Now, not so much.

A man is having a hard time ignoring 948, just so a Lady knows.

In post 959, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:

In post 171, Messiah Complex wrote:I'm heading out to work a 10-10 and Fish is doing the same IIRC; content from us later.

Morph and Lush--we're town. Are you guys town?

Because if you're town, and we can sort that out quickly, the scum are borked (hahagetit). So let's not dilly-dally, yeah?

- Des

Reach out as commented upon. My initial thought was "why does scumdesp do this after snowing mollie" but then like ten seconds later I was like "oh wait this is exactly what I'd do if I had just snowed mollie"

In post 404, Messiah Complex wrote:

In post 403, Mac wrote:BLA BLA BLA

i'm catching up today. see you soon

Hey so are we!

Wanna schedule a date to chat? I'll be here around 7pm EST

- Des

Never followed up on so eh.

In post 701, Messiah Complex wrote:I fucking hate my new boss, what should have been an 8 hour day turned into a 12 hour one, which I went straight home to a pissy fiancé and 4 month old that refused to be put down.

Desp and I did have a chance to talk briefly last night though. We are breaking the thread down into easier to handle blocks because Jesus fuck 29 pages...

I am going first and will try to have observations and analysis from the first 10 pages. Anything I should know going into this?

Oh, and just to avoid confusion, I generally don't sign my posts, while Desp does. I figure that you'd have to be functionally retarded to confuse us.

My apologies to all you functional retards in this thread.

Fish makes a post but once again mostly just fluff.

So there's not much to read into this but the fact that both heads are a postin elsewhere is one of those big red flags and or X thingies that Andrious (RIP buddy, we miss you come back) likes to use.



~BC

okay so what do you want to do with this?

I find it weird that you were oh so ready to put them in your town bloc but suddenly realised that they should never have been there in the first place after it was pointed out which may have been independent from my read and mac's with your own developement of that read.

my concern is that the greatest skill a scum player can have is the ability to anticipate town herd mentality. <----you have this ability. in your town games you seem to lack confidence at times where you should have it but that is town meta.

cos that is most likely what it will come down to. lazy/apathetic town are not complete and total derps or mebbe I am misreading things. they are players we need to bring out of their hidieholes.

also I thought you were not talking to me so why the sudden reach out. you had to have known that I was going to ask.

Witness the hypocrisy of conf-bias!

In post 824, Jaqen Hghar wrote:

In post 727, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:

Innocent Child Guy:

snip. You are using a manner of speech that makes it harder to read, and therefore interpret your posts. snip

A man is

typing in plain English

and the number of players a man has seen

understand exactly what he's saying

tells a man this is just more

ad hominem

. A man also knows you're

obfuscating stupidity

if you really want people to believe this mummers farce because your reading comprehension level is well high enough to follow third person.

In post 961, Jaqen Hghar wrote:A man would very much like dramatic to taste his steel, but his name hasn't been whispered and his soul would likely not sate the gods at any cause.

The fact a boy wants Jaqen to speak with the common common tongue illustrates his desire to understand and figure things out, which gives him a de facto town status.

So when dramatic (Dramonic sp?) talks about wanting you to "speak with the common common tongue" its de facto town status/a desire to understand and figure things out, but when Cabd does he is obfuscating stupidity, is using ad hom, and is faking a lower reading comprehension? Right.

@Mollie, I realize this is a convo btwn you and Cabd, but you yourself said Bubba looked like lynch-bait and I personally agree with that assessment. I don't think I would agree with a bubba lynch today.

~GC

A boy would have a man believe the same standard for comprehension should be applied to a native English speaker as to someone who ESL.

So what you are saying is Dramonic doesn't natively speak english? And you realize that you aren't speaking in third person right? Do you mind if I also give you a condescending title?

~GC

In post 933, dramonic wrote:Kaze casting so many lines hoping to catch dumbtown in "slips"

Yep. You caught me. I'm one devious motherfucker, eh?

In post 938, Jaqen Hghar wrote: coughgcbccough a man has bronchitis.

You should really get that cough looked at.

In post 945, Lush Life wrote: see this bugs me cos you know, cos I wrote a paragraph about them in that

big long reads list

I gave and my experience with some of the players! perhaps you should it.

The Amaranth hydra?

In post 948, GoodCop_BadCop wrote: Kagami and Kaze were both town in that game. And Kagami was all ~effort~ and it's not really here this time and I dunno what to make of it. (And Kaze self lynched day one lol but bygones, bygones) It's a short read. Micro 273: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=34836 (I took over for rach as mod)

I'm not likely to do that often, just to make that perfectly clear.

In post 950, Kagami wrote: I'm not voting you.

The case on morph is nice and compact. Jaqen's direct interpretation is probably not quite right, but it's hard not to read the exchange as cadb looking to put a townslip on bubba, either for his own town-cred or bubba's.

I didn't say you were, miss.

Approximately what percent confident are you in your vote?

In post 958, Lush Life wrote: majiffy and I are working things out. I am not going to push to move our vote until bubba starts town flailing, so far he kind of isn't. I feel like he has locked himself into a softclaim and will at some point have to deliver or be nked. <---- it really is as simple as that.

Deliver or be nightkilled? What?

In post 961, Jaqen Hghar wrote: I'm pretty sure a man has the same view as m'lady on Mac. He's way too inactive to be scummac, as backwards as that may seem to anyone who hasn't played with him. Though to be fair, a man has never seen him very active on D1 regardless of alignment. He also seems to be trying to unite rather than divide.

Last game I played with Mac he was both inactive and scum.

In post 964, Jaqen Hghar wrote:A boy would have a man believe the same standard for comprehension should be applied to a native English speaker as to someone who ESL.

brb headdesking

And a boy would have all believe any of that is relevant...how? A man likes the cogdis between "when Cabd does he is obfuscating stupidity, is using ad hom, and is faking a lower reading comprehension?" and "you realize that you aren't just speaking in third person right?". In the first you tell a man 'ah can't understand' and the second illustrates that the understanding is crystal clear.

@Bubba: GCBC, Kise, and zMuffin bother me the most.
I'm putting my bets on Kaze, though. He thinks he's right, and so I want to see where that goes. B-sides, while I don't think Pie's play has been very town this game, in the event that he flips town, I can get some more leverage to build cases and push wagons on the people on the wagon. So, really, sheeping my scum-reads right now is the best I can do at my level of commitment.

Lady Lush, need a man say more? Lol!

Other point Mr. Dense Skull. Cabd wasn't referring to himself only when he said you were playing in an anti-town matter. He was referring to the town-collectively which according to you does include people who aren't native speakers. Which you seem to think are town for also wanting you to speak normally. Get the picture yet?

You add riddles to your posts in a few of them dude. The relevance here is that you aren't thinking clearly. You aren't trying to figure the game out. You are on a crusade and its ANTI-TOWN. ANTI YOUR FREAKING WIN CONDITION. WAKE UP.

~GC

Forgot to mention you don't really grasp the concept of cog-dis. Because what I said wasn't even remotely close to the definition

~GC

It's not anti-town, it's fuuuun~

The only reason to make such a deal out of it is because you don't want people to listen to the IC (discrediting) while masking it as your own pro-town crusade (scummy).
Arguing playstyle with the IC is anti-town.
And you're no IC, so, y'know.
I've got your number, GC_BC. :3

In post 961, Jaqen Hghar wrote:A man would be happy to talk town with Lady Lush. A man has seen that we aren't seeing things the same as one another and this would be as good a time as any to synch up. Lengthy discussions are often productive

Let's start with Kagami. Overall a girl seems to have no care what others think of her posts. She's asking the the right questions. A man is unsure how to take her nonchalant attitude to the repeated scum accusations. A man doesn't remember playing with or watching a girl play.

it is her nonchalant attitude towards the accusations towards others including your own that bug me not the nonchalant attitude towards the people who are fosing her. if she is a town read lets firm that read up for mac to deliberate. I see where you are coming from in that read, borky is there as well but I am with mac in what I have observed is that she has a significant more transparent play in that she seems to really put herself out there as town and here she simply isn't. <--- feeds my paranoia about her and game dynamics.

I'm pretty sure a man has the same view as m'lady on Mac. He's way too inactive to be scummac, as backwards as that may seem to anyone who hasn't played with him. Though to be fair, a man has never seen him very active on D1 regardless of alignment.

He also seems to be trying to unite rather than divide.

yeah. I have mac as firm town for right now. I would like to set him up so he won't be lynched later by dumb town cos they might!

A man would very much like dramatic to taste his steel, but his name hasn't been whispered and his soul would likely not sate the gods at any cause. The fact a boy wants Jaqen to speak with the

common

common tongue illustrates his desire to understand and figure things out, which gives him a de facto town status.

I have him for similar town reasons too! do you think you can make it work with him?

While discussing town is productive, a man would like to briefly talk about scum soon. Particularly his propensity to latch onto an early bus vote as scum with a town who is being ignored for later credit. A boy often camps that vote until getting off doesn't turn into a purple wedding. Which, I suppose soft clears hot pie. As a test to be sure, a man believes this will be left untouched and uncommented on because it wasn't read.[/quoted]

who are you talking about here

Kise is another a man isn't sure if a Lady sees the town in like a man does. At the least there seems to be some going back and forth on. Is that just so? Kise gave an early tell which a man has seen before and doesn't care what else he may say at this point. Later, maybe. Now, not so much.

okay. taking tell in under consideration even tho I do not know it. kise is a d3 consideration I think. you know, that simple family add on.

man is having a hard time ignoring 948, just so a Lady knows.

do you want to break this down?

if not I get it you don't want to expose your anonymity.

we can pursue other avenues

I would try to reason with you Varsoon, but your posts tell me that would be futile.

hint: What I was referring to mostly anti-town is his intense tunneling on town, not necessarily his faked-imped although I do see (and he admitted) anti-town aspects in it.

~GC