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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:50 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
hi bork i think you're pretty town wanna talk to me about people
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:00 pm
by CupcakePanda
Fuck it this game is way too boring.
DAYVIG: DESPBROS
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:00 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
people still try that shit?
lol
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:04 pm
by Kagura
@orc: I'm willing to powwow a bit.
Lemme see where I am:
Town:
mastin
titan
RG
Clyton
--
Townish:
BWS
Carbon
Mac
Sorting Fox
Talk to me about ehawk/clyton/any other differences you have with me.
Where are you with titan?
I had some open questions to you earlier, too.
-b
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:25 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
In post 892, Kagura wrote:
What is your read on our slot exactly, orc? Because I assumed your #511 served a similar purpose as your #311, but you just instead dropped it a few posts later and I don't see a conclusion there.
orcinus wrote:you're talking to me like you think i'm town
i recall you being less approachable in some other games, though i'd be lying if i said it were a very accurate recall
I like to think we were really, really approachable in Vesperia. Like I know you were scum there but a big big part of your success there was getting past ffery and you used reachouts to her (and deliberately past me) to do this. Either way: is this alignment indicative?
-b
i think you're town, but it's not a read i've put a lot of thought or time into (tbh none of my reads really are). i didn't follow up my early votes at all cos my attention wasn't on this game, sorry!
i realized in vesperia that really the only person i needed to fool was fery, so i tailored my meta to do that. one of my major goals was to get her to townread me as fast as i could. i haven't done that this game, so considering she said that she'll be a bit more weary of me at the end of last game, I was slightly taken aback by the quick town. That being said, she has page 1 towned me before so i'm not allllll that worried?
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:26 pm
by Titan
Okay so, I'm going to ramble a bit. If I don't make sense, don't mind me, I've been swamped under a pile of grading and my brain is fried. I'm leaning town, I want to even say they're a strong town read but I'm slightly held back there. I'm not even sure why really. Arthur has them as a scum read, but he didn't respond to my questions about his reads this weekend. Basically bork looks town, and I'm somewhat dependent on others for reaffirming that read. So far ferry and Orc seem to have him as strong town so I'm somewhat comforted there. I suppose they could all be scum doing the kumbaya were not distancing dance but it doesn't feel that way. Nachos a little different for me. His tone has occasionally been stilted but he also feels more free and lighthearted. I recently misread nacho for awhile in vesperia, and in not being able to see where he was town in that game I think I've added more markers to read him with. Anyway, I liked his comments to orci, and I can see his comments to you. One of the things he told me in vesperia was that after ice and fire he was rethinking some of his biases in an effort to not get so blindsided again, so in that regard I could see him being a little more cautious.
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:30 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
In post 953, Kagura wrote:@orc: I'm willing to powwow a bit.
Lemme see where I am:
Town:
mastin
titan
RG
Clyton
--
Townish:
BWS
Carbon
Mac
Sorting Fox
Talk to me about ehawk/clyton/any other differences you have with me.
Where are you with titan?
I had some open questions to you earlier, too.
-b
mastin: maybe. i think i'll admit with a small bit of guilt that some of my read on him is due to role
clyton: i'm scared of dismissing him as incapable of this play as scum because i get a feeling that he's quite competent. will have to meta, which is ew
i'm not on this list
where are you putting cephrir?
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:30 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:36 pm
by Breakfast With Sandy
I have bork as strong town.
In theory, I could maybe see Nacho coaching bork through a scum role and helping him hit all the right notes, but I know from recent hydraing with nacho that even if he wanted to/could coach a partner that way, he doesn't have the huge swaths of time it would take.
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:36 pm
by Breakfast With Sandy
I have bork as strong town.
In theory, I could maybe see Nacho coaching bork through a scum role and helping him hit all the right notes, but I know from recent hydraing with nacho that even if he wanted to/could coach a partner that way, he doesn't have the huge swaths of time it would take.
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:36 pm
by Breakfast With Sandy
I have bork as strong town.
In theory, I could maybe see Nacho coaching bork through a scum role and helping him hit all the right notes, but I know from recent hydraing with nacho that even if he wanted to/could coach a partner that way, he doesn't have the huge swaths of time it would take.
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:37 pm
by Breakfast With Sandy
triple post?
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:37 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
holy shit we get it stop
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:39 pm
by Breakfast With Sandy
I will! I probably won't post for the next 24 hours.
I'm going home tomorrow!
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:54 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
...that's not what i meant fery
will miss you
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:55 pm
by Kagura
orc wrote:I was slightly taken aback by the quick town. That being said, she has page 1 towned me before so i'm not allllll that worried?
That's fair.
orc wrote:where are you putting cephrir?
cephrir I want to figure out his angle on our slot and find out from Nacho what he thinks based on previous experience of them getting weird on each other like this. We briefly synced up yesterday but not before I read any of that.
I'm not sure where to put you yet because I don't really get your trajectories on any of your voting targets. I don't really have an early ping on you like I did last game (that I got paranoid on because people were jumping to sheep me on it)
I'm not thrilled by the sentiment that you think I need this (even it's irrelevant to the game at hand.)
ffery wrote:I'm going home tomorrow!
Safe travels!
-b
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:06 pm
by Breakfast With Sandy
In post 965, Kagura wrote:I'm not thrilled by the sentiment that you think I need this (even it's irrelevant to the game at hand.)
I would need it with this player list. :/
And, yeah, I don't think you can hit some of your particular town notes as scum.
I don't think that's a controversial statement.
Thanks! After a month away I'll be very happy to see home!
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:12 pm
by CarbonFiber
Ffery, for someone who is closely scrutinizing my interactions with other players, I am curious why you haven't commented on me ignoring all of Nacho's posts?
~ F-16
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:16 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
goddamnit why did you point that out
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:18 pm
by Breakfast With Sandy
In post 967, CarbonFiber wrote:Ffery, for someone who is closely scrutinizing my interactions with other players, I am curious why you haven't commented on me ignoring all of Nacho's posts?
~ F-16
Close scrutiny is out the window atm. I've barely skimmed things enough to stay current on game events during the last couple of days. I'll be doing serious catch-up Wednesday sometime.
But, I'm kinda mulling over nacho's posts and the kagura/fox and hound stuff myself and haven't had much to say about them, so other players taking their time to size that up doesn't surprise me.
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:25 pm
by Kagura
In post 966, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:And, yeah, I don't think you can hit some of your particular town notes as scum.
I don't think that's a controversial statement.
It's not. Just wasn't a fan of the way you phrased it. I'm sorry.
-b
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:25 pm
by CarbonFiber
Orc, what is the problem with pointing it out? I wanted to see if I could solidify my read for good.
ffery, that's fine. I'll wait to hear your thoughts after you finish catching up with the game. Also, another thing I wondered when re-reading our earlier back-and-forth, why did you choose to ask me to elaborate on my Mac read in particular as opposed to reads that you are less certain about? For one, I already explained my read on Mac before you asked, and for another, your usual strategy seems to be to discuss more contentious reads as opposed to agreed upon ones, correct me if I am wrong here. I was going off of your
626 as an example.
~ F-16
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:27 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
In post 971, CarbonFiber wrote:Orc, what is the problem with pointing it out? I wanted to see if I could solidify my read for good.
i noticed that as well and was waiting to see what she did since i've seen enough fery/nacho interactions to be able to read both of them very well through that
and now we have observation bias
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:31 pm
by CarbonFiber
I think you misunderstood. I wasn't asking ffery why she didn't interact with Nacho. I was asking her why she didn't comment on me not interacting with him. But you are right, I should have waited. I hadn't realized that she wasn't caught up.
~ F-16
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:35 pm
by Breakfast With Sandy
In post 971, CarbonFiber wrote:ffery, that's fine. I'll wait to hear your thoughts after you finish catching up with the game. Also, another thing I wondered when re-reading our earlier back-and-forth, why did you choose to ask me to elaborate on my Mac read in particular as opposed to reads that you are less certain about? For one, I already explained my read on Mac before you asked, and for another, your usual strategy seems to be to discuss more contentious reads as opposed to agreed upon ones, correct me if I am wrong here. I was going off of your 626 as an example.
god damn it I need to stop posting and get some sleep.
Actually what happened there was I got an unexpected reply and chased a shiny thing. Right after that I said something about the chronology being off.
I expected your heavy-duty reread to have surfaced new stuff. And I thought your earlier Mac read was written prior to your reread. When you said your Mac read had firmed up based on the reread, I thought you had new thoughts about him. When you basically restated your earlier read I realized something was off, possibly on my side regarding the timing of the reread.