Corpse Party Mafia [WRONG END]

[White Narcissus]

I disagree, because if someone experienced was guiding him through daytalk, he would have made him vote the whole playerlist before selfhammering.

But share why you think it was Loki who guided him anyway?

~Wis

[Mikazuki]

I said I wasn't a fan of the wagon (I wasn't; I have a tendency to give too much leeway to newer players that I think are struggling in a fish-out-of-water scenario and I thought the wagon on him was unfounded beyond things I've seen come from newer players as either alignment). And I said I had minor feelings that weren't at all strong that he was town.

I do still think the reasons for thinking he was scum were rather weak at best (even if it turned out to be correct). All the arguments about him being in another PT, him not knowing about the PT system, et al were stretching (I thought). The only point I actually thought had any merit was the fact that he happened to be checking private topics at the time Nikanor made that PT public, which was almost too much of a coincidence.

I agree with the newbie player thing, that was why I was so reluctant to say I was scum reading him despite being quite convinced that the PT thing was exactly what it looked like.

As for the reasoning being bad, the PT thing was enough to make me think that he was likely to flip scum. I mentioned before that he actually said that he was '

sent

' there (which everyone ignored) which didn't make sense as a bad word choice, it was an outright slip.

[Mikazuki]

Considering his first few posts, I believe that his nonsense at the end of the day was his own doing.

[Mikazuki]

I disagree, because if someone experienced was guiding him through daytalk, he would have made him vote the whole playerlist before selfhammering.

That's actually quite a good point, not like he had anything left to lose.

[Mikazuki]

What's terrible about her Zymf push is the fixation on the "leader" thing. I felt she wanted to push it as a scumslip type of thing without outright stating so. It striked me as a "I found a pushable thing" moment.

Nacho has mostly felt like town-Nacho and I liked his Gaiden and Shadowcat pushes.

~Wis

That seems like a reasonable conclusion, but yeah, I'd really like to see some more posts from them.

[ZeL1nK2]

I disagree, because if someone experienced was guiding him through daytalk, he would have made him vote the whole playerlist before selfhammering.

But share why you think it was Loki who guided him anyway?

~Wis

That is what I would have done, yes, but I do not think every player necessarily thinks like that. Some players are less mindful of the setup and mechanics than others (even as scum).

And I can't really tell you why I think that at this point in time, though maybe Loki himself will tell you why I think that (or at least acknowledge he knows why I would think that).

[White Narcissus]

If only this cryptic bullshit would end and you would be open with your thoughts, we would all be much happier.

~Wis

[Mikazuki]

or I'm town who is currently playing an opaque game with an end-goal in mind.

'Opaque' might be a bit of an exaggeration.

Either way, I'm happy to at least wait for Loki to respond since I doubt we're going to be able to get anything out of you before that happens.

[ZeL1nK2]

If only this cryptic bullshit would end and you would be open with your thoughts, we would all be much happier.

I imagine we would. It is cryptic, but it's not done with ill intentions.

[ZeL1nK2]

This is your cryptic clue, though...

Dairy products.

[Skold]

Sorry for my poor piss last day play. I had exams coming up and probably should of put myself on V/LA. That being said we should claim darkness. Assuming scum can easily calculate how much darkness everyone has by checking votes, D1 gametime, and how much they increased it by, we won't be giving them any information they don't already have. I'll wait for input before claiming.

[Skold]

#easterholidays so I'll read the thread a couple times and bring myself back up to speed.

[Mikazuki]

I don't see any harm in claiming darkness but I don't really see why it would be helpful either?

Skold, what do you think about flavour claiming? WN brought it up before.

[Shadowcat]

Skimmed this morning the most recent posts at 5am, but wasn't awake enough to process all.

Shadowattack: Zel

Interactions D1 felt weird, awkward and forced. Like scum trying to hide a secret. Also asking notscience what his darkness level felt off too.

Will elaborate more after work.

Also willing to switch to Thor / Loki as I'm not feeling town from either of the heads. They feel like their playing to their scum meta.

I got a big gut feel that Skold could, infact, be scum this game.

~M

[White Narcissus]

Interactions D1 felt weird, awkward and forced. Like scum trying to hide a secret. Also asking notscience what his darkness level felt off too.

This is too shallow. Zelink does not hide the fact he's being cryptic for his own reasons, so scumreading him for that feels fake.

What's wrong about asking for darkness levels?

~Wis

[White Narcissus]

They feel like their playing to their scum meta.

Waiting for elaboration on this. I want specific posts and why they indicate scum Nacho over town Nacho.

~Wis

[ZeL1nK2]

To be clear, in regards to whatever point you're trying to make about the darkness question, there's only two still-alive people that it's even worthwhile asking about (notscience and T&L), since nobody else (apart from Taly) was voted yesterday, ergo nobody else should have had different amounts of darkness (unless something interfered).

notscience just happened to be around at the time so I asked him specifically.

[SXTLHGaiden]

ello, are we flavor claiming?

[Skold]

I don't see much benefit in flavour claiming. Darkness claiming could be useful so as to determine who is going to die next. However, upon revisitation someone could claim to have 60% darkness and we'd take them as town. It's far too easy a claim for scum to be useful.
pedit: Just saying this is a pedit. Nothing else. Baiii.

[Thor and Loki]

Notscience: We are Naomi.
Zelink: Today is my day off. When do you want me to be around?
Sakura: Zelink's strange obsession with me is probably related to the fact that we are IRL brothers.

[Thor and Loki]

More @ notscience: do you have information for us?

[Ankamius]

Placeholder.

[Thor and Loki]

Because if this is some dumb "Naomi killed Seiko in flavor thus probably killed her last night" shit I'm gonna fly down to north carolina and kick your ass.

[Ankamius]

I said I wasn't a fan of the wagon (I wasn't; I have a tendency to give too much leeway to newer players that I think are struggling in a fish-out-of-water scenario and I thought the wagon on him was unfounded beyond things I've seen come from newer players as either alignment). And I said I had minor feelings that weren't at all strong that he was town.

I do still think the reasons for thinking he was scum were rather weak at best (even if it turned out to be correct). All the arguments about him being in another PT, him not knowing about the PT system, et al were stretching (I thought). The only point I actually thought had any merit was the fact that he happened to be checking private topics at the time Nikanor made that PT public, which was almost too much of a coincidence.

I agree with the newbie player thing, that was why I was so reluctant to say I was scum reading him despite being quite convinced that the PT thing was exactly what it looked like.

As for the reasoning being bad, the PT thing was enough to make me think that he was likely to flip scum.

I mentioned before that he actually said that he was '

sent

' there (which everyone ignored) which didn't make sense as a bad word choice,

it was an outright slip.

Wait a minute...

@Anka I already explained why I would choose him to policy lynch. When a policy lynch seems appropriate and my read could still go either way pending answers/most posts, I will consider PL as my main reason for voting.

...oh

That was your last post giving any kind of read on lufan whatsoever, and it doesn't match what you just said. Can you go into your thought process here please?

I still would like to know what the justification for policy lynching lufan was, too. You never answered that yesterday.

[Ankamius]

I'm not convinced on mass claiming flavor. I don't see what kind of information it will give to the overall picture.