STEVEN UNIVERSE MAFIA - GAME OVER

[Marquis]

I only just noticed Skybird was female.

I dont see why more people dont see you as scum here. Yes this contradicts wgeurtz but out of all the fluffiest posts that have been posted, this was by far the fluffiest and most unnecessary

and that must indicate he's scum

i wish people would understand idealism vs. reality when it comes to 2015 player site meta

[mastin2]

Might as well post here, too.
No, no posting today.
Yes, I'll post tomorrow. Problem got fixed, should have the time, and I'll be back in the game.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

[NicCage]

So why is my Ricastle read unjustified?

Because I didn't understand what caused it. I still don't. What caused it?

[Ra9in9 Bull]

And marquis is trolly to me.

Beer seems to trolly for scum. Feels like lynchbait to me.

I only just noticed Skybird was female.

I dont see why more people dont see you as scum here. Yes this contradicts wgeurtz but out of all the fluffiest posts that have been posted, this was by far the fluffiest and most unnecessary

Can you explain to us the delineation between trolly/fluffy being scummy, and too trolly to be scum?

[Ra9in9 Bull]

WTF Ika? Why does this happen in so many games with you.

[Cheetory6]

I dont see how threats like these are town motivated. Vezok's trying to appeal to your pride and say "youre shit as a mafoa player if you dont vote for this".

I think that might be more of a general playstyle thing for vezok. He did very similarly aggressive things in Team Mafia and while he could be faking here, I'm leaning pretty hard that a scum doublevoter doesn't throw himself into the spotlight like vezok did.
Also, can you guys start signing posts? Or are you against that spiritually?

I dont see why more people dont see you as scum here. Yes this contradicts wgeurtz but out of all the fluffiest posts that have been posted, this was by far the fluffiest and most unnecessary

Ricastle also feels pretty town atm. Someone posting fluff isn't alignment indicative. I think I post more fluff as town than scum, in fact

No no, sorry. I wasn't scumreading ricastle for attacking beer, I was scumreading him for attacking sonic and beer and saying with certainty that there was at least one scum among the two. Which isn't that awful, but when he called it PoE it bothered me a bit. I never thought beer was town, I still don't, I just felt that he would make an easy target. It wasn't really a defining part of my read, it was an additional accusation. Actually, I decided to vote ricastle while making that post. I was really more interested in your slot, in part because I felt like the ricastle townread from titus was unjustified. I wanted to talk about it, but that line of questioning petered out with titus not commenting and just asking what PoE meant, so I figured I'd work on something else and wait for you to show up.

I wanna add grapes to my townlist, and Marquis and Ricastle are leaning town for me now. Sonic is null until I reread him. Nothing else has changed. I'll follow-up this tomorrow with anything I'm suspicious of.

Hi NicCage. Talk at me about why your vote is still parked on Ricastle. Do you have any other scumreads?

VOTE: Fuzzy

[Cheetory6]

Here
FWIW, he was scum and his style of play is similar here than there but I thinking that this does not necsaarily make him scum and could simy be a metter of playstyle.

I'll try to check it out, but I think I'd honestly be more interested in someone with experience with his towngame >.>

[Skybird]

OK, I read through Rational’s ISO again trying to see what Vezok and Farside are seeing but I’m still seeing Rational as town. I won't vote them today.

I don’t like Raging Bull not wanting to read the game. They seem to be uninterested in the game and that reads scummy to me. (post 847) I'd be willing to vote him today.

Good, save me time and explain the town read.
I'm not opposed to a rb wagon but it feels easy. Something tells me rad maybe scum but it's gut right now.

Sorry Farside, I forgot to respond to this yesterday.

Their first several posts they are responding to things in the game and commenting on stuff including saying whether they think it feels scummy or more like town. (example posts: 43, 113, 362, 482) IIRC, Drixx is a college professor and he tends to approach things analytically. I liked their push on the double voters because I think it's important for town to know. Since we have two double voters, even though the mechanics are different for each of them, I'm leaning towards one scum and one town double voter. It just seems too unbalanced otherwise. I know that is wandering into outguessing the mod territory and I don't want to do that but with the info we have on day 1, if I had to guess that would be my guess. After a point, they did drop the questioning and agreed with Verzok in post 759 that there was no town motivation for further questions about the voting abilities.

Beyond that, their posts have a town feel to me. YMMV.

[NicCage]

Cheeto, I'm working on that now. My vote isn't hurting anything sitting there on Ricastle. I'm sure he doesn't mind.

NicCage, what changed your Ricastle scumread to a slight townread?

Well it seemed like a fair amount of people felt like he was townish enough, so I figured maybe I was overreacting to his tone or style or whatever you want to call it. It seemed overconfident, but that's not necessarily a bad thing D1. He's really not doing anything particularly wrong, and I felt like he was being genuine enough in chasing his scumreads. Plus I'm not townreading Sonic anymore so his attack on him bothered me less.

[Marquis]

i would lynch bins right now actually
but fuzzy is better

[Ra9in9 Bull]

@Mod: can we get an updated VC?

[Ra9in9 Bull]

Marquis is wrong I dont post fluff as scum

Actually, I read your scum game Marquis linked, and I agree. You actually over-tryharded IMO. See post 99, 144, 148, etc. Also, you were super careful to address specific people in many of your posts compared to the town game, where you were only more careful at the end.

I'm a bit torn here, because I've seen fluff posting and a more carefree attitude ("if you are town knock it off dude"), but I've also seen you've been pretty good with the specifically addressing people.

Reading your meta won't be the way to go for me.

[farside22]

Thanks sky.
I can't say I agree but I'll think about what you said there. I know many seem to think/feel the same way about the duo so maybe I'm just more caution of busy work then others.

[Ra9in9 Bull]

I dont see why more people dont see you as scum here. Yes this contradicts wgeurtz but out of all the fluffiest posts that have been posted, this was by far the fluffiest and most unnecessary

Scum Ricastle was super aggressive and serious in my only experience with him.

[Varsoon]

" Lars, I'm really confused."

-Sadie,

Tiger Millionaire

"I love you, Tiger Millionaire."

-Lars,

Tiger Millionaire

VOTECOUNT 1.18

Thefuzzylogic99 (5):

Sonic X, grapes, Skybird, Marquis, Cheetory6

Reasonably Rational (4):

vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka, grapes, Bins

radmann9 (4):

TunnelWarriors, Ricastle, Trench Warfare, MaxwellPuckett

Sonic X (2):

Beer, CooLDoG

Ricastle (1):

NicCage

Beer (1):

radmann9

grapes (1):

Reasonably Rational

Not Voting (4):

Fluminator, Thefuzzylogic99, Mastin2, Ra9in9 Bull

With 20 Alive, it takes 11 to Lynch.
Deadline

: (expired on 2015-07-13 06:50:00)

[Ra9in9 Bull]

@Tunnel - I'm trying to understand if your two heads are intentionally contradicting, or what?

Have you moved all the way to town on beer now from your vote of him earlier? What about Vezok (I note you were hesitant to vote Beer because Vezok wouldn't paraphrase), do you think he's being unhelpful town, or scummy for not paraphrasing and trying to push a mislynch by saying Beer claimed scum in their PT?

Why are your heads contradicting each other on Ricastle?

How come you are suspecting two people (Ricastle and Trench) that you are sharing a wagon with on Radmann?

[Ricastle]

Scum Ricastle was super aggressive and serious in my only experience with him.

Ha, well, as it happens, I was actually trying to imitate my town frustration in that game. Probably went overboard even still but eh. That's the way of the world.

[T S O]

There's like four days to go, I'm way behind, I have no real scumread to push, and Titus and I are doing a shit job of talking to each other.

Fuck fuck fuck.

[Marquis]

Marquis is wrong I dont post fluff as scum....... Flume is correct as far as being super cautious as scum. Am I playing my normal town game.....No. am I playing my scum game.... thats also a no. I was really tempted to just lurk until everything passed by.but not my style .

Grapes last post made me feel a bit better about him. Still not totally buying he is town than he thinks I am scum so I think that makes us even. He seems less defensive and seems to tunneling a bit less which as I said makes me a bit less concerned about him. He still leaning scum to me

Gut feeling but I think RR is very very likely town. Thinking about it , thier action doesnt seem like a move scum would make.Also the point that was made that RR was reacting to Grapes stuborness seems logical. I felt the same as RR on this.

To me the whole thing is starting to feel like a TvT scuffle

I dont think there is two town DV/MV .The balance would be off. It occured to me however that either Grapes or Vezo is a third player party such as a Mason , cult or neighbor. Possible that one is scum , I am not counting that out, but I am co siddering the firrst set of option a bit more.

Great all we need is another head for Beer. Just like bad beer in rl..... lots of head and no substance.

UNVOTE:

[Marquis]

VOTE: radmann

after reading the iso, this is an excellent excellent day 1 lynch on newbie scum.

i am half-not feeling the fuzzy lynch right now, especially since it's starting to get into hivemind territory.

[NicCage]

Ew, I didn't realize there were only 4 more days. Why is radmann scummy exactly? I read his ISO and I'm still not getting it. I know people have stated their reasons in the past but I forgot them and don't feel like looking.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Brain Poop

I am a bit disappointed in Mastin......shes a very good player in my experience. I have no idea what to make of her lack of activity

Marquis
I like that you unvoted me as I dislike the idea of being mislynched. Besides the Hive mind mentality is there any reason you you are not scum reading me atleast not as much as before. Also why do you think Rand is a good newb scum lynch???

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I feel odd about Marquis sudden change of mind especially since the reasoning is not totally solid


More and more I am thinking Reason is town....

Still hoping Mastin is scum...there is a weird happiness I get from lynching scum Mastin..... My luck she is town. I forget if Mastin lurks as scum or not

[TheFuzzylogic99]

should clarify...more and more RR is becoming solid town ihmo

[Varsoon]

The Gems may take on female traits, but they are confirmed by the creators of the show to be genderless.

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