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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:04 am
by PenguinPower
In post 948, Xalxe wrote:Night 2
enomis protects Joushi
Joushi kills enomis
Lol. I love how that reads. :lol:

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:04 am
by Transcend
lmao

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:05 am
by PenguinPower
I was pretty pissed that I missed ironstoves first IV vote. I was on 1 minute before he voted and then had an hour in the car where I couldn't do anything. Glad he voted again :)

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:08 am
by innocentvillager
huh, interesting pt.

Another thing I should've pointed out that came as scummy but I forgot to is how Joushi literally COPIED my notation for the tracking results ("nv on ___ n1, nv on ____ n2"). The actual wording is pretty different, i.e. "X didn't visited anybody last night". The fact that he copied my exact format suggested subconsciously that he was copying all of me, i.e. my claim.

Transcend I think I a couple more days without an IS vote I think I would've convinced you lol ;)

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:10 am
by Transcend
yeah you were on your way

you never answered but how do you know me outside of this site?

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:12 am
by ironstove
nice call transcend.

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:12 am
by ironstove
I just got sick of this game tbh, transcend really killed it for me, glad this is over.

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:14 am
by ironstove
In post 952, PenguinPower wrote:I was pretty pissed that I missed ironstoves first IV vote. I was on 1 minute before he voted and then had an hour in the car where I couldn't do anything. Glad he voted again :)
yea i revoted iv because he said i was a butthurt scum, i just wanted him to realize he was wrong in his call, didn't care about losing at that point. transcend and IV both deserve the loss, esp transcend for being so tunnel vision.

I know what I needed to do this game to improve, hope the other two learned a lesson.

And very WP joushi, I only sus'd you near the end due to POE and how bad your claim was in comparison to IV.

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:16 am
by karnos
I thought transcend was a cop or tracker.

You guys should have lynched joishi, i had the best case on him.

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:16 am
by ironstove
In post 931, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 927, ironstove wrote:LOL you think i'm butthurt

VOTE: Innocent Villager

the hurts are real.
Why did you do this

Why do you make rash decisions like this

You need to calm your emotions or whatever next time, I'm serious

I know you're new, but please never do this again
It's ok, because I'm scum remember? Scum wins!

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:18 am
by ironstove
Well, I was almost certain IV was town based on the fact that he was town reading the enomis slot for no reason, that pretty much explained it to me, however I play with transcend on EM and I wouldn't be able to deal with him raging at me if I didn't lynch IV and he was mafia, so I was happier with losing and having transcend being wrong, than losing and having transcend being right.

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:18 am
by Transcend
Um you're the one who got blitzed homes.

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:19 am
by ironstove
The guy has pretty good reads on EM, so it's hilarious that he would tunnel a PR from D1 and cost the game. :D

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:19 am
by ironstove
In post 961, Transcend wrote:Um you're the one who got blitzed homes.
I'm just following your lead. You told me to sheep you!!! hahahahahahaha

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:20 am
by ironstove
Did you not say you were 100% he was scum for the past 3 weeks? Damn............ Now this is my fault? LMFAO

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:21 am
by Transcend
I wanted him lynched on d2. D3 is a different story.

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:21 am
by ironstove
Let's be honest here, would you have lynched Joushi over IV today transcend? I really don't think so. and I wasn't in the mood to fucking argue about this for another 5 days to reiterate all of my cases on why IV is town versus joushi, so I gave you what you have been practically begging for, and now it seems like you're pretty unhappy with the result. I wonder why????

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:22 am
by ironstove
Oh, I guess that wasn't your lynch parked on him in D3? LOL

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:22 am
by ironstove
The thing that bothers me the most about this result is that it wasn't transcend who hammered, I'm almost certain he would have done it for you all had you given him the chance to prove himself.

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:23 am
by Transcend
Don't be a douche about it.

Besides you thought i was scum all game so i really doubt you sheeped me on lylo.

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:27 am
by Transcend
So if you thought i was wolf with joushi, you could've persuaded PenguinPower to vote joushi.

Regardless we both stuffed it. I was at fault for being wrong, you were at fault for voting your tr on lylo.

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:31 am
by innocentvillager
In post 957, ironstove wrote:yea i revoted iv because he said i was a butthurt scum, i just wanted him to realize he was wrong in his call, didn't care about losing at that point. transcend and IV both deserve the loss, esp transcend for being so tunnel vision.
Hey ironstove, I'm really sorry if that came off the wrong way. I honestly didn't mean it as an insult.

Here's what I was thinking when I said that.

I knew that Joushi was scum, so the partner was you, PP, or Transcend. Transcend was almost certainly not the partner, due to how he handled D3. For PP to have been the partner, I would have had to track both scum at the wrong times, and also means that switched both days. Besides the low probability of that happening, I didn't think they would do that, given how Joushi was generally the townier slot both nights.

So, "knowing" that you and joushi was the scumteam (also given your hasty vote on me after a 180 switch from townreading me and seeing no hammer made me think it was you), I was basically aggressively explaining to Transcend why you two were the scumteam. I used the wrong adjective, but I meant it as if I was describing you were behaving rashly to Transcend's reprimands (note that I was addressing Transcend, not you, so using more vulgar words generally speaks to him more lol). If you'd had given me a chance to respond to stuff like this, I think we could've won the game due to you believing Joushi's claim over mine.

I too take things more offensively than I should sometimes, but to compromise a game just because of that is not fair to everyone else who is just trying to play to their wincon. I do, however, apologize if that came off as an insult.

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:33 am
by Transcend
In post 954, Transcend wrote:yeah you were on your way

you never answered but how do you know me outside of this site?
Pm me if you must?

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:34 am
by innocentvillager
In post 958, karnos wrote:I thought transcend was a cop or tracker.

You guys should have lynched joishi, i had the best case on him.
I would've but there was too much me!scum in there so I didn't take it seriously lol. Plus me getting a no visit on him N1 made me townread him a lot more.

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:23 am
by karnos
I hate trackers. The role, not the player. I think it's almost negative utility if you don't lynch scum on day 1, because it's so unlikely to get a hit.

I did have both scum called out as scum right before I got lynched, I just also had IV stuck in the group. I guess it's easy to nail the scum team if you call everyone scum at least at some point in the game. I am surprised IV was town after how strong he was against enomis coming out. I don't see how that was an anti-town play in any way, town needed to trust him or rule out the possibility of him being scum, while scum had a pretty good idea of his exact role already.