I remember Maria saying she wanted to see Koki's reaction to profii's flip (When I asked her about that, I was confused because I thought she meant performer, which is why I asked for elaboration [perf != prof])
It's a little weird because Koki didn't really react at all. Also, this is confusing:
I'm not a hider, so if koki is vig, I shouldn't be alive.
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:15 pm
by the worst
SIV a "weak" modifier on a role means if it targets scum, it dies. Fruit vendor does nothing but their target gets a pm saying that they received a piece of fruit that night.
so a weak fruit vendor is useless unless it targets scum, in which case it does. profii's cop comment looked like a shitpost because we spent so much time talking about the fact cops don't exist but he said he'd target Tchill.
profii saying he'll target Tchill and then dying = his weak mod was triggered via his target being scum = Tchill is scum
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:16 pm
by the worst
If you were confused why didn't you ask?
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:21 pm
by SIV36
I dunno. The game was progressing, and I didn't mind where it was going so I just sat back. I didn't know what the weak meant, that's a big help.
Yes, I'm a newbie doobie.
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:24 pm
by Kokichi Oma
In post 943, SIV36 wrote:I'm still confused on how koki's claim could put the game in a bag. I'm guessing Koki is vig. Nobody's flipped vig yet, and it seems that profii was vig-killed n1. But I don't know what that means for solving the game.
He was clearly weak killed by tchill, but okay.
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:24 pm
by Kokichi Oma
In post 953, SIV36 wrote:I dunno. The game was progressing, and I didn't mind where it was going so I just sat back. I didn't know what the weak meant, that's a big help.
Yes, I'm a newbie doobie.
why isn't this lynched yet
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:25 pm
by the worst
Welp I think Mora has better newbie reading skills than me I think he just scunslipped
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:26 pm
by the worst
outsourcing this read (bc i am outsourcing every read due to laziness)
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:18 pm
by SIV36
In post 781, Kokichi Oma wrote:I have a soft guilty on Tchill anyway, so lynch it if it hasn't been lynched
In post 556, Morality wrote:Chilly is townie to me right now, so idk if I get that scum thing said.
In post 559, Morality wrote:Azurit/Ruby, but I’m not one hundo. I’ve been at work all day, semi skimming. I’m excited to get into this game.
Maria’s gonna have a blast with me here.
I reread d2, and of course, now it makes all kinds of sense.
Koki said he got a soft guilty on Tchill. Tchill then quoted that and exclaimed that so many people were targeting him. I don't know, it doesn't sit right with me because there was little truth coming from Tchill. What is a soft guilty?
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:19 pm
by SIV36
Oops, I didn't mean to quote those.
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:34 pm
by the worst
A soft guilty means you have role related reasons to believe someone is scum but it's not 100% certain.
For example if you're playing a setup with a vigilante and only one bulletproof role (which belongs to the mafia):
if the vig shoots someone and they don't die, they have a "soft guilty" because occam's razor suggests that they shot the bulletproof scum role.
soft guilties CAN be incorrect but occam's razor tends to cut in their favour
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:31 pm
by UnaBombaH
I think that with this many people still alive and a stopped kill last night we almost SHOULD be able to solve this game..
But I get a feeling people don't want to?
Something is slowing us down, and we basically know it's just townies not getting along and one scum poking at them from distance..
My only worry for this game is that if we don't solve it now, we might have too many slots that "we can't take to LyLo".
And that doesn't mean we should start lynching towny slots because of paranoia..yet.
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:44 pm
by Dunnstral
I don't think we lose this game, I think kokichi should claim and then morality, the time to oppose claiming was at the start of the claiming, not when it gets to your turn
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:02 pm
by UnaBombaH
I don't think we likely lose either!
I just fear that we "throw" the mileage we now have if we start to chainsaw each other.
All I ask is that we finish the mass-claimage to avoid any WIFOM-claims in later days - dreading the possibility that we actually go on for more than a day or two..
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:06 pm
by the worst
that's actually a good call.
Koki please claim here. all we gain by you not claiming is an increase in town discord, and another name in the lynchpool.. we stand to very very likely win this by just spewing as much information at the thread as we can and then just chomping through the people who stand out.
Also I'll be your best friend and love you forever if you claim
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:07 am
by Kokichi Oma
Ok I claim that I'm maybe a VT
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:16 am
by schadd_
Vote count 3.2
SIV36 (2):
Kokichi Oma, LuckyOtter
Ruby Red (1):
Morality
not voting (6):
UnaBombaH, Dunnstral, Azurit, the worst, SIV36, Ruby Red
with 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. day 3 starts now and ends june 30 at 20:30 central US time; in (expired on 2018-06-30 20:30:00)
VOTE: Kokichi - I usually defend you whenever people feel you are "too scummy to be scum", but I really really dislike it at this point.
Enough to be ready for a policylynch even.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:42 am
by Morality
@Unah - Kokichi reminds me of Gerryoat in that game you were Mafia traitor, if you remember. Claimed JOAT early in game, didn’t claim VT until i pressured and stated he’s probably actually just VT. I think Kokichi could just be VT who was trying to claim something else.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:45 am
by Morality
VOTE: Otter
Ruby tracker makes sense here, though. Weak Fruit Vendor and ON-RC need some more considering scum strength thus far.
If Kokichi is actually a PR and town, they’re severely fucking town.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:46 am
by Morality
Either that, or indirectly helping town without even knowing, but that would just be a happy coincidence.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:48 am
by Morality
In post 956, the worst wrote:Welp I think Mora has better newbie reading skills than me I think he just scunslipped
I feel like he’s town. I don’t see the scum slip.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:33 am
by the worst
It was pinging me that he just accepted the fact Tchill was scum without parsing the guilty or asking any questions but I think I'm just getting excited
So this means the last maf actually just submitted no kill last night. how do people feel about that..?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:22 am
by Kokichi Oma
It was very possible. Or maybe a doctor is hiding. Maf could have just been busy
VOTE: Kokichi - I usually defend you whenever people feel you are "too scummy to be scum", but I really really dislike it at this point.
Enough to be ready for a policylynch even.