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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:34 pm
by DVa
@Auro, So just to be clear, you cannot, in fact, find anything resembling the quote in question, but you based an entire meta argument of me and started a 1v1 based on something you cannot actually attribute to me. i.e., you made up a quote, attributed it to me, and used it to advance a scum case on me.
If you remember right, and this is the important part, I said that your case on me is reachy bullshit.
So I would now like you to admit that your case on me is reachy bullshit.
And then, I'll ask again, who would you like to gladiate today?
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:35 pm
by DVa
In post 948, Firebringer wrote:you know we could potentially have three confirmed town. (i don't know if anyone pointed that out)
merlin confirms arthur.
and sword holder is town.
someone might have said that and i am just not invested in the mechanic talk to read it.
Varsoon just rolled his eyes
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:37 pm
by Auro
In post 950, DVa wrote:@Auro, So just to be clear, you cannot, in fact, find anything resembling the quote in question, but you based an entire meta argument of me and started a 1v1 based on something you cannot actually attribute to me. i.e., you made up a quote, attributed it to me, and used it to advance a scum case on me.
If you remember right, and this is the important part, I said that your case on me is reachy bullshit.
So I would now like you to admit that your case on me is reachy bullshit.
You're saying these things without answering whether said made up content actually personally applies to you FYPOV.
Now I feel you're being dishonest about this quote, and that you're able to be this way is because the post happens to be somewhere you know I can't refer to. O.o
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:39 pm
by Auro
If I'm majority hurt, I'll simply gladiate the second majority hurt. I've been throwing reads but I'm pretty sure they're not as good as other players' reads, so I'll go with consensus.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:40 pm
by Varsoon
In post 951, DVa wrote: In post 948, Firebringer wrote:you know we could potentially have three confirmed town. (i don't know if anyone pointed that out)
merlin confirms arthur.
and sword holder is town.
someone might have said that and i am just not invested in the mechanic talk to read it.
Varsoon just rolled his eyes
SO FKN HARD YOU HAVE NO IDEA
Anyway goin to bed
I feel a lot less passionate about my D.Va read so
HEAL: DVA
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:40 pm
by Ariane
sorry for lack of activity, just a heads up I'll read thru and post tonight, like in 6/7 hrs
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:42 pm
by Firebringer
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:52 pm
by Auro
DVa, deny the content of said hypothetical post.
I'll try my best to find it then. If it's not directly referencable, I'll keep my lean on you for dishonesty, and anyone who *wants* to find out if you're being dishonest can do so themselves.
If I can't, I'll apologize.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:55 pm
by Auro
In post 957, Auro wrote:DVa, deny the content of said hypothetical post.
I'll try my best to find it then. If it's not directly referencable, I'll keep my lean on you for dishonesty, and anyone who *wants* to find out if you're being dishonest can do so themselves.
If I can't, I'll apologize.
And if you accept that content, then also accept that it's probable I'm not lying because I've predicated a case on you on a personal belief YOU hold which scum!Me apparently guessed at perfectly.
And also accept that if that predicated basis is correct, my case makes more sense than your version of me faking it.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:09 pm
by SirCakez
i haven't read the last two pages yet, only the two posts above but wtf auro
this should be good
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:11 pm
by Auro
In post 959, SirCakez wrote:i haven't read the last two pages yet, only the two posts above but wtf auro
this should be good
I mean, are the above two posts THAT ridiculous? Open my eyes, please
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:13 pm
by DVa
Perhaps "I have never said that" wasn't a big enough fucking hint for you?
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:14 pm
by SirCakez
In post 902, Auro wrote: In post 901, SirCakez wrote:Even w/more game evidence I still don't consider someone being more funny in one game then another to be great evidence because that can change entirely dependent on the game playerlist, how fast it gets serious, and the rolelist. also in personal experience I have never actively considered being more serious as scum to appear more town or whatever.
I agree, and wouldn't have bothered much. Except for her own admission that she finds it a lot harder as scum to be non-serious.
I mean, *objectively* that slightly increases the scum likelihood for her. Other play-based reasons can supercede this, surely.
after catching up i'm honestly completely baffled on this quote thing
is this referring to an ongoing game???
something_smart thank you for deposting some reads but those were pretty waffly. Can you go in and hurt tag some people?
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:15 pm
by DVa
OK
So, you cannot find said quote
You want to scumcase me based on a non-existent statement
and you want me to directly refute things that you think might have been from an ongoing game
so either you
a) are misrepresenting something I said in a completed game (i.e., you are scummy)
or
b) are misrepresenting something I said in an ongoing game (i.e., you should be force replaced)
which do you prefer?
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:17 pm
by Auro
@DVa:
c) I only have a recollection of you saying it, and am ASKING you to either admit you find it harder to be chummy or deny that explicitly.
You could've even said it to me in personal chat, FWIW.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:18 pm
by SirCakez
hasn't d.va pretty clearly denied that at this point?
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:20 pm
by Auro
In post 962, SirCakez wrote:after catching up i'm honestly completely baffled on this quote thing
is this referring to an ongoing game???
No references. I just remember her stating such a personal belief *somewhere*, and it may not even be a public avenue. I've been pushing based on my belief of what she said once, and haven't referred to any ongoing games.
It would be a lot easier if she explicitly denies that content right now.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:20 pm
by Auro
Can you quote the part where she is clearly denying it?
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:21 pm
by DVa
In post 961, DVa wrote:Perhaps "I have never said that" wasn't a big enough fucking hint for you?
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:21 pm
by SirCakez
because why spend two pages arguing that they didn't say it if it's true anyways?
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:22 pm
by Firebringer
should i be reading ur guys little argument?
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:22 pm
by Auro
In post 961, DVa wrote:Perhaps "I have never said that" wasn't a big enough fucking hint for you?
OK, so is this an explicit denial, and you DO NOT believe it's harder for you to be chummy as scum?
Can I go ahead with this assumption, that you've explicitly denied it? Yes/No? I don't want hints, just a yes or no.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:23 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 962, SirCakez wrote:something_smart thank you for deposting some reads but those were pretty waffly. Can you go in and hurt tag some people?
I mean, I could, but the accuracy would probably be no better than rolling a die. I'd probably end up basing it on who'd be good to be gladiated (for instance, a good policy lynch up against someone who reveals their alignment transparently when forced to fight for their life-- but even that I'd have to do research on).
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:24 pm
by SirCakez
Auro I think you're being reallllllly silly about this whole situation
p-edit: what's your plan for scumhunting this game then S_S?
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:27 pm
by Elsa Jay
Hmm... What to do to be relevant in discussion again...