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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:48 am
by teacher
@Emps - reasons I TRed Sushi. I even put a hyphen between spam and sushi in my readslist in
458 to let them know I had seen the cross crumbing (I caught NMSAs, but didnt put it as claiming w/ Fark til Fark claimed.
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:49 am
by emps
d1 vca
hmmmmmmmmm
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:49 am
by NotMySpamAccount
In post 948, teacher wrote: In post 32, Sushi Martyr wrote:
I've never played in a game with masons, will be interesting to see how it goes.
Also, hi, everyone!
I saw this as a claim to being a mason - it implies knowledge that they are present. @Emps, this was one of the reasons, I saw this as a crumb of being masons with Spam -- the quote.
my 30 was just me hammering in the mason crumb to the point where it was undeniable in case fark ended up really needing it. he would have too, without creeper and skitter
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:50 am
by emps
oh that makes sense
whats ur read on sushi w/o that?
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:50 am
by NotMySpamAccount
In post 950, teacher wrote:@Emps - reasons I TRed Sushi. I even put a hyphen between spam and sushi in my readslist in
458 to let them know I had seen the cross crumbing (I caught NMSAs, but didnt put it as claiming w/ Fark til Fark claimed.
huh I didn't eeven notice
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:50 am
by teacher
In post 53, Farkran wrote:N
ow i look like a good girl from an anime i like.
A
lso hello to all the newly arrived.
M
y readings so far:
S
elynee - town 70% very proactive
Menalque - town 50% mafia 50% trollish
teacher - mafia 60% too serious to be town PR
notmyspam - town 70% plays like expert town
sushi - town 50% mafia 50% trollish
emps - town 65% aggressive play
O
ther two have yet to speak, 80% at least one mafia hiding in there
UNVOTE:
VOTE: teacher
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:51 am
by emps
how in the what duck is that a mason breadcrumb
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:51 am
by NotMySpamAccount
In post 955, teacher wrote: In post 53, Farkran wrote:N
ow i look like a good girl from an anime i like.
A
lso hello to all the newly arrived.
M
y readings so far:
S
elynee - town 70% very proactive
Menalque - town 50% mafia 50% trollish
teacher - mafia 60% too serious to be town PR
notmyspam - town 70% plays like expert town
sushi - town 50% mafia 50% trollish
emps - town 65% aggressive play
O
ther two have yet to speak, 80% at least one mafia hiding in there
UNVOTE:
VOTE: teacher
nope
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:52 am
by emps
yeah thats about what i thought no way thats a mason breadcrumb lol
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:53 am
by teacher
In post 954, NotMySpamAccount wrote: In post 950, teacher wrote:@Emps - reasons I TRed Sushi. I even put a hyphen between spam and sushi in my readslist in
458 to let them know I had seen the cross crumbing (I caught NMSAs, but didnt put it as claiming w/ Fark til Fark claimed.
huh I didn't eeven notice
yea, I tried to make it subtle, but obvious, by making sure to include two other players on the same row but without a hyphen for you to know the hyphen was important.
@Emps - weak TL. Those posts were definitely her mind, but without a mason crumb from two sides its nowhere near as high.
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:54 am
by Farkran
In post 949, NotMySpamAccount wrote: In post 947, Farkran wrote:
I genuinely tried though. My game experience is A LOT different than yours. Fakehammering was considered a dirty play, days lasted 48 hours (hence some of my posts containing SRs against people not writing much), WAY more PRs in our setups, etc.
We valued VCA and association analysis more than everything, progression is worth nothing on d1
lol you come from a very different place.
I mean seriously. However, look at the result - in the end, we gamesolved based on VCA. True that it's HEAVILY creeper's fault and our CC counts as a flip, so you could say this is already d2, but despite my crappy progression on pretty much everyone except teacher (who turned out to be town, lol, sorry mate), i arrived to the conclusion that Menalque was likely scum through my methods. NMSA didn't instruct me on WHY he thought menalque-creeper was gamesolve (but he did mention it earlier in this thread), and i was still advocating creeper at the time.
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:54 am
by teacher
Eh, it was the best I saw -- starting caps not necesarily in order. I think you did better than NMSA on hiding the crumb really well, but I can understand why. I look forward to you outing it after others try.
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:55 am
by NotMySpamAccount
nah we gamesolved on creeper's claim and good reads.
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:55 am
by NotMySpamAccount
In post 961, teacher wrote:Eh, it was the best I saw -- starting caps not necesarily in order. I think you did better than NMSA on hiding the crumb really well, but I can understand why. I look forward to you outing it after others try.
yeah I was barely hiding mine
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:56 am
by Farkran
Also, credit for the crumbs goes to NMSA. We stopped using crumbs back there because there has been a game where EVERYONE crumbed the shit out of themselves and then any day code was banned.
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:56 am
by emps
my poe rn is mena, sushi, sely ill look over interactions and find which one is the partner
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:57 am
by NotMySpamAccount
In post 964, Farkran wrote:Also, credit for the crumbs goes to NMSA. We stopped using crumbs back there because there has been a game where EVERYONE crumbed the shit out of themselves and then any day code was banned.
ok that's hilarious. we have a rule here against code or tiny text, but crumbing is allowed
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:57 am
by emps
In post 964, Farkran wrote:Also, credit for the crumbs goes to NMSA. We stopped using crumbs back there because there has been a game where EVERYONE crumbed the shit out of themselves and then any day code was banned.
Oh that was encryption
some people started encrypting their roleclaims for massclaims so that scum had to choose to claim PR or not d1
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:57 am
by teacher
In post 960, Farkran wrote:pretty much everyone except teacher (who turned out to be town, lol, sorry mate
no worries - so did you
I did basically have you down to PR or scum at that point, and Im comfortable with how I played it too, because I thought I was bleeding town all over the place -- notice how you were the only one voting me -- so I just assumed scum with someone that knows me and wanted me gone.
Im happy I SRed Menalque until my SR of you interfered with that.
65 actually was the first to make me think that, in addition to the unjustified TR of you. It felt like a goad to put me on tilt a bit.
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:58 am
by NotMySpamAccount
In post 966, NotMySpamAccount wrote: In post 964, Farkran wrote:Also, credit for the crumbs goes to NMSA. We stopped using crumbs back there because there has been a game where EVERYONE crumbed the shit out of themselves and then any day code was banned.
ok that's hilarious. we have a rule here against code or tiny text, but crumbing is allowed
Actually, I want to read that. DO you have a link?
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:00 am
by Farkran
Well, without creeper's claim the game would have laste what, like 1 more day? Once he flipped scum, there's no way menalque wasn't with him. And i thought that creeper was town. Not to praise myself over you guys, seriously - i think i played pretty bad, but given this is my first game on site i believe i could have done way worse.
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:02 am
by teacher
Proper Mason play is to convoluted crumb and provide the key.
I have come around to the opinion that it is a good idea to crumb generally, to trump scum counterclaims in a gamestate where that makes sense. Plus as PR I generally scum it up a bit.
PEdit: I think you played well, and also bled through a bit (enough that Skitter sided, and I was tight), but I also think you guaranteed your NK as scum would know you were indeed PR -- that was the logical conclusion of PR spec, too. I think better to use your systems, but also follow common practice a bit more.
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:02 am
by emps
at least i had one correct scumread
aka creeper
who everyone else also scumread
now praise me for being so godly at the game
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:04 am
by emps
smh i just realized creeper is at l-1 teacher you didnt even hammer him
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:04 am
by emps
we got anything more to discuss or do you guys mind if i just hammer