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[Flavor Leaf]

Volpe’s also acting like I don’t have any reason to believe he’s scum here. He’s lolbad deathtunneling most of this game, and I feel like that’s a totally acceptable thing to think scum would take a lazy easy route of deathtunneling me

[Almost50]

I also doubt that FL/Volpe engages in scum theater this way, so one of you are town at least

OK. AT LEAST one is Town is a good start. Now how would you rate the chances of TvS as opposed to TvT? Which is more likely? And why?

[MariaR]

Spoiler: 3

I’ve read to page 17 and all this Vope vs FL stuff but I still have barely any opinion on either of the slots given this fight. FL did a really shitty like, test or some shit and Vope is here defending himself to the heavens and back.

I think the funniest part in all of this is that, no offense, FL's accusation was honestly extremely bad and the basis of it was nonsense, but your reaction to it actually made the move work in my opinion lol

This second reaction to my vote honestly cements the impression I had when reading your reaction to FL's posts. I think Volpe now has a lot of chances to flip scum off that alone.

pedit: How is my vote a bad vote?

Oh, I guess you said it for me.

This is actually extremely scummy.

If Volpe flips scum, then no, the push on Volpe wasn’t bad at all. It would be 100% correct.

It’s not scummy to call your push bad, because it was. I don’t mean bad as in scummy bad I mean it’s just bad. However, I don’t see how this would be scummy on noms part. Because it isn’t.

Ok I don't have much time atm but basically our group as a collective thinks that volpe is town and lynching our townread is very bad idea.

I was coming around to this until the overexaggerated rage. Considering Vope knows who FL is that kind of reaction is ???

This 1v1 is kind of unproductive imo

Oh, glad I’m not the only one who thinks this.

For example this quote is setting up a scenario where scum!FL has a lot of targets to bounce on in a world where he's scum and you're town. There is bound to be someone that defends you ultimately. This is the kind of statement that always makes me worried of FL.

Me defending FL? Shocker. Anyway, I understand what you say but what do you do in this case? It’s not like this is an odd thought because sometimes this does happen. What manner do you think town (or fl in this case) would go about this?

It does look generic and nonsensical, but that's exactly why I think it's kinda positive. Elements is the kind of scum player that would try to look like he's doing stuff, solving the game, etc. However since he's lynched quite a lot, I thought about the possibility of him being scum and not wanting to spill the beans. However, that vote on me really doesn't make sense in that case in my opinion.

Town Ele doesn’t give a fuck and jumps around like a mad man. Here’s he’s just… blah. It’s scummy/null but it’s most certainly not townread worthy.

[Volpe14]

Volpe’s also acting like I don’t have any reason to believe he’s scum here. He’s lolbad deathtunneling most of this game, and I feel like that’s a totally acceptable thing to think scum would take a lazy easy route of deathtunneling me

[Flavor Leaf]

Disagree that it was bad. If you guys are too surface level to see it, then so be it

[Volpe14]

I take back my Elements town read to be fair.

I take all of them back other than GiF and Fark. GiF one is stronger than Fark?

I would say that GiF being scum here isn't like, impossible, but I think he deserves to win the most if he's ever scum here.

[Flavor Leaf]

And Maria commented on the after effect of that post, not the meat.

If Volpe ends up flipping scum, not only is that push not bad, it is 100% correct.

The pre flip comments are terrible, and is just noise for the sake of noise.

Like I said before, years been called things I do bad, and for years I’ve proven everyone up left and right afterwards.

[Flavor Leaf]

I would say that GiF being scum here isn't like, impossible, but I think he deserves to win the most if he's ever scum here.

People seriously need to get out of this mindset. It’s so bad.

It’s fucking Day 1, and literally you’re the only one who’s town read him like that.

That’s on you to reevaluate and not be lazy town if you’re town

[GuyInFreezer]

I’ve skimmed volpe cause I don’t think they’ve posted anything of value. What am I missing?

As I mention quite a long time later it was a meme vote with a twisted reference of a past game.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m getting tilted

[GuyInFreezer]

I would say that GiF being scum here isn't like, impossible, but I think he deserves to win the most if he's ever scum here.

People seriously need to get out of this mindset. It’s so bad.

It’s fucking Day 1, and literally you’re the only one who’s town read him like that.

That’s on you to reevaluate and not be lazy town if you’re town

It's the power of a soulmeld.
Get rekt

[Flavor Leaf]

I don’t even care if you’re both town here. That’s just a terrible surface level mindset for Mafia player in general

[Almost50]

I think you're just scum but trying to explain it in a level headed way to people is less effective than just actually keep high-lightining it.

That’s how you know I’m town.

Go look at Mafia a la mode. I’m not level headed like that.

Now go look at any of my arguments with RC. I’m always completely level headed town, at least for the first 35 pages of it.

I’m just a level headed.

Stop fucking meta'ing your bloody self. It makes me want to demote my read on you already. I guess I've seen (and been scum with) FL once too many that this shit ain't gonna fly on me.

[Flavor Leaf]

If it comes into my mind, I’m not going to not say it. I actively will not filter myself when I’m town.

[Flavor Leaf]

If you scum read it, so be it, but I do it as scum because I do it as town.

[Almost50]

Btw I think Gammagooey is a pretty towny slot

I wish people would state some kind of

reasoning

when they stated their reads. (This way it may help someone else see it their way, or point out what they thought was wrong in it).

FTR, I have no read on gooey yet

[Volpe14]

I would say that GiF being scum here isn't like, impossible, but I think he deserves to win the most if he's ever scum here.

People seriously need to get out of this mindset. It’s so bad.

It’s fucking Day 1, and literally you’re the only one who’s town read him like that.

That’s on you to reevaluate and not be lazy town if you’re town

[GuyInFreezer]

If you scum read it, so be it, but I do it as scum because I do it as town.

So this nullifies everything that you said about "Town me would" this and "Scum me would" that before and after since you act the same as either alignment.

[Flavor Leaf]

If you scum read it, so be it, but I do it as scum because I do it as town.

So this nullifies everything that you said about "Town me would" this and "Scum me would" that before and after since you act the same as either alignment.

Yup, that’s a town trait I have to nullify everything

[Flavor Leaf]

But it also nullifies it against me.

[GuyInFreezer]

Ok you heard him folks.
Toss your coin.
Head you vote him
Tail you don't

[Flavor Leaf]

Ok you heard him folks.
Toss your coin.
Head you vote him
Tail you don't

This is surface level too.

I have much more posts than that.

[Almost50]

Trying to throw other stuff out there so this day doesn't become a circlejerk

I mean, don't get me wrong.. I appreciate the notion. I just need some more details attached to the read so I can evaluate the situation and decide how much I agree.

[Volpe14]

If you scum read it, so be it, but I do it as scum because I do it as town.

So this nullifies everything that you said about "Town me would" this and "Scum me would" that before and after since you act the same as either alignment.

Yup, that’s a town trait I have to nullify everything

But it also nullifies it against me.

[MariaR]

Spoiler: 4

So, on page 25 what I’m getting here is Nom/Gif/Vope are in a hood and nom shaded something of Vope that they talked about in a hood and Gif found it scummy? Yes/No? Maybe so?

ftr

my nomnomnom townread is a personality read
my fl townread is a tone/trajectory read

both are slightly more complicated than that but those are the tl;dr versions

Why do I hate what Ank is posting right now even though we both agree? Hm, Ank where are you let’s chat. We’ve had lovely chats before.

I wish I knew enough about how MariaR thinks ingame to be able to add her to my townblock

starry night helped but not tot he point that I think I'd be able to pick the two alignments out zzzzzzzzzzz

I can’t wait to hear what you think of me soon. (No, really I am genuinely excited)

Also anytime someone wants to bring up the word ‘town block’ I will be tuning out your post. Carry on.

I’m gonna skip page 31 cause it’s just people I like posting. Let me get through these final pages thanks.

Hey Fark, can you try to describe what about dave's posts on volpe & FL are obvtown to you?

^^^
I’m glad I took the time to read this post given I forgot they were in the game.

Oh, speaking of which. I think that the best way to handle hoods is that if one person in your hood gets lynched, it'd be best to reveal the whole hood before twilight ends. The scums in hoods probably want to be the last standing to get an advantage so I think it's preferable to out everyone in hoods so there can't be abuse when it comes to that. It leaves room for WIFOM but WIFOM is sure a lot better than free powers handed out to scums.

Can’t we just out hoods after flips or do we not even see what group someone is in when they flip? I just assumed that was a thing. That’s probably a good question to ask the mod. Someone do it thx

GIF?

You think scum would outright out their own hood and what power it has and do something as stupid as that? Especially considering that he's in RC's team?

Nah I refuse to believe that.

I'm currently thinking chennis or Farkran, probably more the latter. This prodding is ridiculous lol

Gif has posted nothing at all that you should be townreading him for. Behind the whole ‘I’m tryharding/not RC’ he’s posted almost nothing worth of good content besides base reads with no issue. He just thinks because he has RC/Nsg he can get out of doing shit. Hint: He can’t. His read on your emotional state and hood outting is also NAI and would do that as both sides.