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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:08 am
by Ame
The lynch comes down to dsjstr it looks like.

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:10 am
by insomnia
Ame don't talk to Luca, there's no point. If we block him out we can find the actual scum.

Stop paying attention to him. 3 people are gonna appeal to authority and vote with him just because he claimed mason.

Why do you think Wimpy's scum? I think he's town. So's Aaron.

you're not gonna change his read and it doesn't matter, tomorrow we don't have to deal with his poor tunnel cuz he probably gets nk'd

let's solve

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:10 am
by Luca Blight
In post 791, Luca Blight wrote:Insomnia, where in all those quotes did I say Frost backed down from pressure?
In post 796, Luca Blight wrote:Lmao, my point was literally the opposite of the one you assumed, and yet realizing you have misinterpreted what I meant so badly doesn’t even being you to consider you might be wrong about me.

You are obvious scum.
In post 802, Luca Blight wrote:Dude... you literally quoted my post earlier that PROVED you were wrong.

You’re brushing it off as semantics when it’s there in black and white.
In post 803, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 756, insomnia wrote:
In post 577, Luca Blight wrote:Here's a similar post from Frost's last scum game:
In post 327, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 325, Luca Blight wrote:And why hadn’t you mentioned the ‘lack of Town vibes’ until now? Again, it seems convenient timing.
The timing of your vote is pretty convenient too.

You were scumleaning me, then townleaning me, then scumleaning me again. Explain that progession.
I suspect him and he immediately turns it round to me. He even uses similar wording like '
explain that progression'.
this?
Here it is.

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:13 am
by Luca Blight
Aww, Insomnia’s pretending to ‘solve’. How cute.

I’m off to bed, night.

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:13 am
by insomnia
In post 950, Ame wrote:The lynch comes down to dsjstr it looks like.
My PoE points towards that

it's in like

dsjstr / Hectic / clidd

for me, based on my town reads of other people

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:17 am
by insomnia
i remember hectic having some bad early posts as well so i could vote there as well

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:20 am
by Hectic
In post 940, clidd wrote:It is selfish of me, but I would like to be right about Insomnia and Karnage being towns, as I defined in my initial read.

VOTE: Insomnia
How is this selfish of you? You're voting someone to prove to us they're locktown?

Why is no one considering clidd here?

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:22 am
by Hectic
In post 840, Ame wrote:
In post 834, Hectic wrote:Ame, why do you have both clidd and I as 0 scum equity? You trust me but have no faith in my clidd metaread?

Also, somethings have changed about that metaread which makes clidd not as likely scum, for reasons I can't really expand on. Basically, I'm not scumreading him for the lessened analysis this game, but still am for the locktowning. I'll give Karnage a quick ISO.
I wasn't sure you yourself had faith in your meta read, as you mentioned it wasn't certain. But yeah, even so I'm not sure it would be enough for me to scum read him considering he admitted to trying something different this game and Luca has the opposite conclusion from his meta read (I do think Luca-Clidd is possible, but currently it ranks lower than other potential teams).

In post 838, Hectic wrote:Regarding Wimpo: So I intially townread his tunnel on Ame, since it fit with something I've seen town!Wimpo do before. It wasn't for the same reason (attacking someone on V/LA) but because someone shaded him once for what he thought was a bad reason, and he tunnelled that person until replacing out. is a pretty eh threat though. feels exaggerated. Ame, what's this game which gave you the impression that Wimpo is powerwolfer or whatever? Also, my marathon game is starting so will resume this later
Micro 913.

Interesting quote:
In post 1371, Wimpy wrote:Two successful strategies as scum.

1. Hard bus
2. Get locked in a 1v1 with a townie.

I usually end up death tunneling somebody every game as town so as scum it makes no sense to kill creature.
I suspect that #2 is what he was trying to do here.
This is actually very interesting. Raises Wimpo-scum-equity considerably

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:24 am
by Ame
What I mean is Hectic and Aaron are TR you so they vote Karnage. You and Karnage cross and dsjstr has the deciding vote.

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:25 am
by insomnia
I still don't get why we should lynch Karnage here.

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:25 am
by Hectic
In post 956, Hectic wrote:
In post 940, clidd wrote:It is selfish of me, but I would like to be right about Insomnia and Karnage being towns, as I defined in my initial read.

VOTE: Insomnia
How is this selfish of you? You're voting someone to prove to us they're locktown?

Why is no one considering clidd here?
^

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:29 am
by Ame
In post 959, insomnia wrote:I still don't get why we should lynch Karnage here.
I just don't believe Wimpy would have behaved that way toward me once he realized it was a misunderstanding. He's always speaking about not making things personal, but he continued to do so even after I immediately recanted my reasoning. He knows that he's town read for his tunneling and because there were 4 players from MN2115 (who all seem to be town btw), I believe he tried to replicate his tunnel from that game (on Macabre).

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:29 am
by Ame
Hectic I'm thinking about Clidd

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:31 am
by insomnia
@Ame what's your opinion on Clidd's stance on me and luca early before the conflict, during the conflict and after the conflict?

also, can i trust your hectic read? haven't really read any of his posts either and i remember him having a weak early game which i usually put a lot of stock on. can i have some form of cliff on why he's town?

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:32 am
by clidd
Actually, I am in a position where two of my lock-towns have wagons to line up, so the choice is not so important (mainly due to the inaccuracy in Insonia's reads). You probably know that my methods are atypical, as are my considerations, so I don't understand the surprise about that

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:32 am
by insomnia
In post 964, clidd wrote:(mainly due to the inaccuracy in Insonia's reads)
excuse me?

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:33 am
by insomnia
how would i know your methods are atypical, i never played with you?

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:36 am
by clidd
I was referring to Hectic. Even so, your game vision is well below what I imagined seeing your typing pattern, Insomnia.

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:36 am
by insomnia
yeah well you can thank the tunneling mason for that

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:39 am
by clidd
Unfortunately, I do not intend to engage here with full focus. Recently, I haven't been doing so well mentally.

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:41 am
by insomnia
I'm saddened to hear that, but if you're town can you actually vote who you scum read instead of throwing the game voting your town read?

if you're voting for the sake of placing a vote you're not doing anyone a favour. your vote tells us nothing as to your alignment.

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:45 am
by Hectic
In post 964, clidd wrote:Actually, I am in a position where two of my lock-towns have wagons to line up, so the choice is not so important (mainly due to the inaccuracy in Insonia's reads). You probably know that my methods are atypical, as are my considerations, so I don't understand the surprise about that
Why aren't you voting another potential wagon like Karnage that isn't one of your locktownreads?

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:45 am
by Hectic
In post 969, clidd wrote:Unfortunately, I do not intend to engage here with full focus. Recently, I haven't been doing so well mentally.
Sending <3 your way, clidd

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:47 am
by clidd
Split votes close to the deadline is not something I appreciate. And I am directing my vote in the direction where Luca finds the most correct, so it is far from sporadic.

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:49 am
by clidd
In post 971, Hectic wrote:
In post 964, clidd wrote:Actually, I am in a position where two of my lock-towns have wagons to line up, so the choice is not so important (mainly due to the inaccuracy in Insonia's reads). You probably know that my methods are atypical, as are my considerations, so I don't understand the surprise about that
Why aren't you voting another potential wagon like Karnage that isn't one of your locktownreads?
Because Karnage is Wimpy's slot. He remains on the edge of towns that I stipulated before.