mini 2140: partition (this is over)

[dsjstr]

I meant why the fuck would mafia not put themself in the group of two for the scum reasoning for D2

[Albert B. Rampage]

your performance proving it is not 1-1-1 makes you look like town

My proving I'm not the leader of a 1-1-1 conspiracy doesn't make me look town and when I wrote my case against clidd I didn't mention it at all. It means jack shit now. Look at everything else I did. Look at my logical case.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I meant why the fuck would mafia not put themself in the group of two for the scum reasoning for D2

Clidd expected me to vote for the biggest group day 2 like I did day 1.

Me + clidd + one of you self-votes and scum win.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Go back to day 1 and read clidds interactions with me. He keeps saying he already deduced I'm town. Its suicide if I'm scum to not create a better endgame for myself.

[Albert B. Rampage]

That's really surprising you went for that. plus group #3 fooled a lot of people including me reads-wise. nice job

You should have followed my reads.

I am now confirmed town or the only scum in groups 2 and 3 and I just put both my scumbuddies at L-1 twice

I'm not surprised, my reads already pointed out that you were town long before.

[Albert B. Rampage]

There's so many logical leaps you have to take in order to come to the conclusion that I'm scum and until you can explain those, you can't convince mohab to lynch me before clidd.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Clidds theory about the scum setting him up is also transparently false just look at their posts, they aren't setting up anyone.

[Mohab500]

Man, who the fuck cares. Lynch clidd first, lynch Albert first, town wins either way. I don't see why you guys are wasting so much time on this bullshit.

[clidd]

My drastic change in read on you, Albert, was because of your opportunistic push today. And even if you hadn't pushed me, just the fact that you were still alive would be enough for me to question you.

[Albert B. Rampage]

So here's the thing.

You think that I chose a distribution of 2/1/0 leaving an option to lynch group 3 who were all town, but all I did all of day 1 was tunnel on group 1 with my 2 buddies inside.

Then, I had one townie (MorningTweet) who believed so strongly I was town that she put group 1 at L-1 for me to prove I wouldn't hammer.

All of this while doing zero scumhunting. At any point in time I could have been the one everyone voted for.

Now if I thought I could lynch group 1 and get everyone to self-vote, why didn't I just put my scumbuddies in groups 2 and 3 instead of group 1? Why didn't I do 1/1/1? Why not keep MorningTweet or someone that I can persuade in the endgame with me?

Anyways, so then Day 2 comes. Clidd townreads me from day 1. I scumread mohab from day 1. But the optimal scum strategy for me here is to write a very clear case on the one person townreading me? And then after he flips town, I have to convince the guy I was attacking and you to vote for each other?

Does this plan make sense to you as scum?

Now how about from a town perspective. I correctly guess most of the scum are in group 1 and tunnel it in order to outWIFOM the scum with zero scumhunting effort. I try to convince people I'm not leading a 1/1/1 scumteam to appease the paranoia. I am proven correct and deduce the last scum day 3 no matter if it's inconvenient for my survival or not. And here we are talking now.

So which makes more sense? Explain to me.

Okay so my master plan is to bus both my buddies and look super town but then for some reason not get NK'd.

Come on it's obvious I'm town. Everyone know that I'm bad at playing scum.

[clidd]

Yes, ok. You're a mastermind of scumhunting. Now, accept the coinflip and if you live, you will be treated as "conftown" and me as "confscum" by PoE if I live.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yes, ok. You're a mastermind of scumhunting. Now, accept the coinflip and if you live, you will be treated as "conftown" and me as "confscum" by PoE if I live.

The exact same logic applies in reverse to you.

I think your wording was "self-vote if you have any dignity".

You just are afraid to die and think you can win day 3. It's not gonna happen, you need to die first.

[clidd]

Hypocrisy. You have stated several times that you are not afraid to die, but right now you are trying not to be lynched.

[clidd]

Your confidence that I am scum is contradictory to your attempt to survive. Regardless of the order, your pov should consider it a victory if you were town, what is clearly not happening.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You seemed fairly enthusiastic about a coinflip. Why are you backing out right before it could potentially and most likely happen.

At first, I thought you were a noob with blinders on who was going to delay the town victory.

Now I'm concerned you might cost us the game even if I die because you trust clidd too much, and I'm hopeful you can turn around your wrong assumptions.

You're not even reading anymore. It's not a victory until you die scumbag.

[clidd]

For that to happen, your flip would have to be town. I don't see how Scum!Clidd would convince Town!Dsj in this scenario.

[Albert B. Rampage]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=82403

Clidd was scum in both of these games.

Considering you're 100% confident he's scum, I feel like that it shouldn't matter if we lynch you first, then Albert. Right?

I don't see this as scum!clidd I would rather lynch you before clidd

Quite easily, in fact ^

[clidd]

"I don't see this as scum!clidd

I would rather lynch you

before

clidd

"

His lynch order is Albert>Clidd, not Albert>Mohab. His impression of me depends on your flip, it's very unlikely that Scum!Clidd would be able to convince him if the game doesn't end with your lynch.

[dsjstr]

VOTE: Group 3

[clidd]

???

[clidd]

Don't flash-lynch Albert tomorrow, evaluate Dsj / Mohab first.

[Mohab500]

Albert, your turn.

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: group 3

I'm already voting group 3 from here and never unvoted.

[clidd]

To be honest, Scum!Clidd and Scum!Albert have no way of winning with the current scenario. I would not be surprised if I am wrong and our interaction was TvT.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Don't flash-lynch Albert tomorrow, evaluate Dsj / Mohab first.

Don't worry I'm going to put the time into this game that will win town the game. No hurry to vote.