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In post 920, Replacement for Sujimichi wrote:Bob, what have my responses to your queries told you about my alignment?



Hoopla's seems friendly and I could envisage her as my neighbour, so I can buy her claim. Let's hope she doesn't move out before night 2.




Popo wagon is good. He also smelled funny when I was catching up. Bob should be competing though.

I scum read you.

You have not been able to come with any real reason to scum read me. All you have done is say you scum read me for not having the same read on gerain two days into the game. Even I can only assume trying to use posts that were made after my vote happened.

You barely take any in depth stances on any players. Yet were happy to hammer hoopla. When you hadn't even mentioned him. Your only two mentions of him were when you said you liked something from him and when he said he believed the gerain wagon was all town.

You are evasive on you una read. Every time giving no reason. You say you town read una for town content but you never say what town content or what your read on his motives are.


You selectively answer questions and at the same time barely answer the ones you do.




Now on gerain I'm not too sure. He could be scum that feel more confident as I have read his scum games and he is less indecisive and more open to make stances than in his town meta. In his town games he is so indecisive scum would never want to nk, or day kill him. He is some you want to take to lylo.

But the thought i'm having is gerain actually coming out of his shell.

The only reason i can see why you wouldnt mention hoopla is if he was a town read. But he cant be town read as why would you even contemplate lynchign hoopla if he was. Thus he is null or a scum read and you have made no attempt to sort him. Yet are happy to end the day early with his lynch, with you being the hammer. Looks like your scum roel fishing to me.

You gave yourself room to row back room with the vt comment. But clearly at the same time you had no convocation. If he was a real scum read you wouldnt of put that row back in. You might decide against it after his role claim but not before.

Looks to me like you just wanted the role claim so you could narrow down the town pr.

In post 951, bob3141 wrote:Looks like your scum roel fishing to me.

In post 951, bob3141 wrote:Looks to me like you just wanted the role claim so you could narrow down the town pr.

I think that scum rarely do this.

In post 947, Dunnstral wrote:I too want to flip popo, especially since it feels like everyone except for Una who has posted recently, who hasn't been on the wagon, has been strangely opposed to it

Yea, I do not necessarily object to it, but I'm not too excited about it either.
I'm feeling sort of uninterested with the game now. That Hoopla-claim makes it literally antitown to keep my vote on her, since her claimed role should be confirmed.
But I just have this solid feeling it's a scum fakeclaiming, and they are now living on borrowed time.
Dunno. I wasn't particularly scumreading them before, but I joined the wagon anyway.
And anything and everything they said afterwards only sold scum!Hoopla to me more.

So all of this other stuff sort of feels like filler to me right now.

Would scum!Hoopla try and create a counterwagon for their teammate, or actually name their teammate for distance?
Just pondering, not going to actually affect anything until we get some flips, but...

You know, this is giving a vibe of a divide between popopopo+Hoopla / geraintm.
Right?

Yo ho ho. I notice you've cut down on the emojis, Una. Might that be a subconscious aversion because of what I was saying? €;

The only reason why I'm wondering, is because scum!Hoopla would already know here that they aren't going to be cleared by their claim.
You do understand that, right?

So assuming scum!Hoopla, anything and everything they say from that claim onwards is already WIFOM.

In post 953, UnaBombaH wrote:But I just have this solid feeling it's a scum fakeclaiming, and they are now living on borrowed time.
Dunno. I wasn't particularly scumreading them before, but I joined the wagon anyway.
And anything and everything they said afterwards only sold scum!Hoopla to me more.

So all of this other stuff sort of feels like filler to me right now.

That's why I suggested voting somebody who was neutral in respect to Hoopla's alignment, like popopopo, where it didn't really matter what Hoopla was

UnaBombaH wrote:You know, this is giving a vibe of a divide between popopopo+Hoopla / geraintm.
Right?

I'm seeing that too, yes

In post 955, Replacement for Sujimichi wrote:Yo ho ho. I notice you've cut down on the emojis, Una. Might that be a subconscious aversion because of what I was saying? €;

Literally just missed this.

In post 955, Replacement for Sujimichi wrote:Yo ho ho. I notice you've cut down on the emojis, Una. Might that be a subconscious aversion because of what I was saying? €;

Do you want to take popopopo to L-1? (Lim-1)

Is it that hard to use pronouns

I must go...with the flow..
If this flips red, I do not see Dunn/Isis ever being scum here.

In post 961, Isis wrote:Is it that hard to use pronouns

What do you mean by this?
And why do you keep repeating it? (honestly don't understand)

In post 721, Replacement for Sujimichi wrote:That's why I scumread you, Bob. Because you say Gera is playing differently to his last (assumedly town) game, and conclude he's scum for it rather than examining his content for this game, which has been good. The timing of it right after he accuses you of being off-meta I also dislike.

Read this, my Bob. How is this "having the same read on gerain two days into the game."?





You're ignoring my actual reasons and trying to spin your own ones that you can throw doubt on. I don't like it.

In post 958, UnaBombaH wrote:

In post 955, Replacement for Sujimichi wrote:Yo ho ho. I notice you've cut down on the emojis, Una. Might that be a subconscious aversion because of what I was saying? €;

Literally just missed this.

You win this time but next time I won't be so lenient. At least 2 emojis per post please.

VOTE: Popo





L-1

In post 963, UnaBombaH wrote:

In post 961, Isis wrote:Is it that hard to use pronouns

What do you mean by this?
And why do you keep repeating it? (honestly don't understand)

Numerous people in the game use the opposite he/she pronoun for someone, or use "they" for someone with a marked preference. The former is more jarring.

In post 949, bob3141 wrote:

In post 920, Replacement for Sujimichi wrote:Hoopla

I scum read you.

You have not been able to come with any real reason to scum read me. All you have done is say you scum read me for not having the same read on gerain two days into the game. Even I can only assume trying to use posts that were made after my vote happened.

You barely take any in depth stances on any players. Yet were happy to hammer hoopla. When you hadn't even mentioned him. Your only two mentions of him were when you said you liked something from him and when he said he believed the gerain wagon was all town.

You are evasive on you una read. Every time giving no reason. You say you town read una for town content but you never say what town content or what your read on his motives are.


You selectively answer questions and at the same time barely answer the ones you do.




Now on gerain I'm not too sure. He could be scum that feel more confident as I have read his scum games and he is less indecisive and more open to make stances than in his town meta. In his town games he is so indecisive scum would never want to nk, or day kill him. He is some you want to take to lylo.

But the thought i'm having is gerain actually coming out of his shell.

I think my only scum game since I have come back was in a Newbie game, and I was doing what I normally do there in newbie games which is to tell town that lurkers are bad and I may have been more active, but think that is just what is expected of someone who isn't a newbie should do. I don't think I've been scum in any Normal games since I have come back?

and if this is out of my shell then I dunno what i'd be like if I were hibernating.

had a look over popopo's posts, trying to see why they are the leading candidate.

lack of posts I guess is one reason to string them up. only one post is longer than two lines. they have effectively been absent from the game since post 500, half the game.

I like their post 352, but nothing else.
they had a few opinions on people early doors, but not enough to be helpful day 2.

I wouldn't say they are scum, just not very helpful to the town right now.

In post 964, Replacement for Sujimichi wrote:

In post 721, Replacement for Sujimichi wrote:That's why I scumread you, Bob. Because you say Gera is playing differently to his last (assumedly town) game, and conclude he's scum for it rather than examining his content for this game, which has been good. The timing of it right after he accuses you of being off-meta I also dislike.

Read this, my Bob. How is this "having the same read on gerain two days into the game."?





You're ignoring my actual reasons and trying to spin your own ones that you can throw doubt on. I don't like it.

THis has to take the cake for scum mis quoting

Tell me what was teh word before your quote?

Let em guess you wanted to mis quote me and cut out the NOT, The NOT

I cant see how any one could genuinely miss read that.

Never seen anything so scummy

VOTE: Replacement for Sujimichi

In post 966, Replacement for Sujimichi wrote:VOTE: Popo





L-1

see here you again, jumpign on the next goign wagon

Whats the reason you scum read pops.

And why did you giev intent to hammer hoopla first?

In post 967, Isis wrote:

In post 963, UnaBombaH wrote:

In post 961, Isis wrote:Is it that hard to use pronouns

What do you mean by this?
And why do you keep repeating it? (honestly don't understand)

Numerous people in the game use the opposite he/she pronoun for someone, or use "they" for someone with a marked preference. The former is more jarring.

I'm constantly using "they", because I believe it's a rather "PC" way to address anyone and everyone.
I'll use preferred pronouns when I'm I know what it is, and don't have to check it every time I'm writing a post.

The problem with remembering them, is the same reason why I'm very bad with names. On this site, and IRL.
Instead, I remember avatars similarly to how I remember faces. I think I'd recognize almost every single person I've ever met just by their face, and that gives me at least a vague context on who they are/were and what they did. And this comes from me after living for near 30 years, and working in customer service / sales for over 10 years.
With avatars it's a little more difficult than with faces though, because often I'd connect the avatar to a different pronoun in my head, than what their preferred one actually is.
And since I'd rather be "safe" about it than hurt anyones feelings, well..that's why I use "they" a lot.

Also the added excuse of not being accustomed to having to navigate the newer and more rare pronouns people sometimes prefer.
I Finnish language we don't have any.
When we speak of "someone" in the same way of he/she - we use the same word for all genders and ages.

In post 971, bob3141 wrote:

In post 966, Replacement for Sujimichi wrote:VOTE: Popo





L-1

see here you again, jumpign on the next goign wagon

Whats the reason you scum read pops.

I was waiting for somebody to push him on this. I think you're scummy for this. Their vote is consistent with their stated reads and makes sense.