Titus, I understand what you are saying, but it's vague for me to observe "how" someone is doing scumhunting to determine whether the individual is scum or not in this setup. I try to assess what I like in the sense of genuineness, among other small personal criteria. It may not be the best approach, but it's the one I feel most comfortable with.
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:12 pm
by clidd
Regarding MC, I didn't find the posts you mentioned about him so persuasive and I don't really believe he's scum. I'm interested on plusjoyed, what do you think of my impression of the slot?
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:19 pm
by Titus
VOTE: Bulge
@Clidd, I can't really comment on the patterns you're seeing, but I'll see if I can find my own. ISOing them.
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:28 pm
by Titus
I don't think I like them being associated because of the beginning of the thread. I can see a point though since Plus never says a read on both slots.
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:21 pm
by clidd
And what about plus's iso? (your opinion)
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:44 pm
by clidd
Hum.. Maybe I'm reading a lot on a specific thing and guessing something that could easily be wrong, although it makes a lot of sense in my head.
I mean, battlemage isn't minimegabyte, but I feel that they share a similar tell.
In post 883, The Bulge wrote:why do Titus and Taly look bad for their wagon positioning come EoD but not I?
I mentioned you in my other post, did you read it?
I am giving you a pass for now because I think that you were on scum anyway.
do you mean like yes I'm in just as bad a position as them but it doesn't matter because I was on scum, or like that it's actually not as bad in the first place because of who I was on? one of these makes sense
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:04 pm
by Titus
Seeing how passive PlusJoyed is, I could be open to them being a wolf, just not mafia. I don't see mafia opening up with such a hard tr on their buddy.
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:14 am
by Datisi
In post 923, VP Baltar wrote:Mostly so Data doesn't have to worry about a VLA yeet
i'd think your phone would learn my name by now
In post 911, Taly wrote:Dat's agreement with Titus on MC but voting her anyway is a bit ??? on the previous page but MC's pocket is very warm so
i don't see where i was agreeing with titus? and even if i was, what is ??? about it?
okay i read what i missed, unfortunately right now i do not have any Hot Takes.
the vague list of people i probably? do not want to yeet today is currently baltar/clidd/klyne/titus
so possible yeets are... 6 people?? too much
i'm gonna scroll around some isos or whatever and see if anything grabs my eye
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:31 am
by Datisi
ctrl+f'ing "klyne" in deas's iso still makes me want to yeet that slot (yeet deas, to be precise)
push on klyne still feels like a textbook scum shitpush of "i don't like the way you're saying things" (aka i still hate 637 and 639)
also i just realized i don't get his progression from "baltar is a townread" (665) to "positive vibes but can be scum" (895) to whatever 932 is, deas could you elaborate how/why you went through these?
*also* also i see you haven't answered first part of taly's 935 and i realize i'm also curious about that so?
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:42 am
by Datisi
i tried to open bulge's iso but i realized most of the posts are [big quote + small response] and i don't think i have the brain capacity atm to read all of the posts just to see the context of responses so @bulge tl;dr your reads please? i caught like 2-3 of them in your iso (which may be my own fault but it also may not be)
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:48 am
by Datisi
something tells me i should be suspicious of the fact that taly hasn't been mentioning me a lot but that something might be my dumb ego
In post 926, Taly wrote:I feel like a likelier gamestate is that {Klyne/Titus} has at least one town (
I'm leaning on both town because of the wagon stagnation and counter-wagon hitting Mafia
), and the narrative that the thread wants to perpetuate a 1v1 comes from a scum-led motive.
can you eli5 this for me please? also tl;dr your read on me?
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:37 am
by VP Baltar
I need to full reread from the speed yeet through today. Last couple days of work have been kicking my butt and I feel a little disconnected from this game. Hoping to get some actual thoughts posted by this afternoon
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:21 am
by Umlaut
PlusJOYED and Klyne were prodded.
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:32 am
by clidd
In post 960, Titus wrote:Seeing how passive PlusJoyed is, I could be open to them being a wolf, just not mafia. I don't see mafia opening up with such a hard tr on their buddy.
Yes, that makes sense.
None of my reads are crystallized, but this is the angle I am seeing at the moment (Scum!Plus).
I have a vaguely positive impression about his attempts to engage with the game, but I didn't really see something that I considered it strong enough to be a concrete townlean or close to a townread on him. He fits best in a very weak townlean.
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:37 am
by clidd
I've been reading Jackson's posts (his predecessor), but I don't think they share the same tell observed in BM/Minimega, so their apathy in the game, in this context, is not so suggestive in my opinion (nai).
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:43 am
by clidd
Regarding his behavior, I would say that it is a little difficult to follow what he is thinking, considering that he interacts with several people and does not seem to nurture much substance in the questions he has asked. I was wondering if that would be his playstyle, or if there is something to be observed here in AI terms. But at the moment, my impression is that this is a peculiarity of his personality and not necessarily scum!bulge doing fillers in the topic to look busy.
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:46 am
by clidd
This is my interpretation, but I imagine that scum!Bulge would be more aware of what he is doing and would opt for a more linear and less conflicting line of interaction. Maybe sheep more? or less aggressive? I'm not sure.