One Night Stand [Game Over]

[Ahsoka]

Link to VC

I started in the neighborhood, I didn't get neighborized.

[Alisae]

ahsoka who should die today

[Albert B. Rampage]

Clidd's posted a lot, I haven't. I don't think we should fade there, though

We can 1v1 if you want

[Hopkirk]

I feel like we are letting clidd and kanna off the hook too easily though

I have reasons to believe Clidd is town.

for stuff posted in the hood or just because you were in a hood?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm ok to flip clidd lol

[Albert B. Rampage]

If clidd is scum Ahsoka is too

[Albert B. Rampage]

If clidd is scum pooky is town. Pooky would be scum with MT.

[Ahsoka]

If clidd is scum Ahsoka is too

How does this make sense? We’re neighbors.

He didn’t neighborize me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Well if he flips scum and he lied about his role then you're confscum

[Ahsoka]

I feel like we are letting clidd and kanna off the hook too easily though

I have reasons to believe Clidd is town.

for stuff posted in the hood or just because you were in a hood?

Hood, not really what he’s said, but he’s using it as like a private PT, and it does look town spewwy, but I did go through a decent amount of this day thinking he could be scum, and I told him in the PT

I tinfoiled him as scum with ABR early in the day, then I just told him a few hours ago actually that I was suspicious of him. He’s almost posting too much in the neighborhood.

I don’t understand how he was able to do so much in this game, I’m struggling to get reads.

[Ahsoka]

Well if he flips scum and he lied about his role then you're confscum

Okay, sure.

He’d flip neighbor, though, but okay.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'd be happy with a push on Ahsoka/clidd to test this out or pooky/MT to see them under pressure. You guys can do whatever you like, I'm not going to push you to sheep me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What's the list of players who want to flip Ahsoka again?

[Alisae]

If clidd is scum Ahsoka is too

whats the logic behind this?

[Alisae]

Well if he flips scum and he lied about his role then you're confscum

oh okay
that makes sense

[Hectic]

VOTECOUNT 2.3

[4] clidd:

Kanna, Uncrowned, Hopkirk, Albert B. Rampage

[2] PookyTheMagicalBear:

clidd, Morning Tweet

[1] Alisae:

Menalque

[3] Not Voting:

PookyTheMagicalBear, Alisae, Ahsoka

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate.

The deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-12 23:40:55).

Joint Mod ISO

[clidd]

I am interested to see what Menalque thinks about what has happened so far.

[Morning Tweet]

@Tweet if you read the section of Betrayal Mafia where ABR openwolf pushes my slot it's like pretty flagrant and obvious.

oki will do

I would say ABR voting all over the place and sheeping people is a similarity these games have.

the part where he sticks onto Fun and Games reminds you of ABR pushing who this game?

Like ABR this game isn't even trying to explain why he suspects people -- In betrayal, at least he gave reasons for F&G being scummy and interacted with them a bunch. so like, he had a guise of scumhunting, at least.

[Morning Tweet]

MT tone is the opposite of my tone, so if you townread her and scumread me, it's most likely based on communication style, tone, and agreeableness.

you don't get to instruct people how to read me !!

The fact the wagon grew fast on kanna doesn't make kanna town.

yeah, Uncrowned went fast too, so I think that’s just the game being played right now.

Agree that it doesn't mean anything

Actually, Kanna isn't towny because of her reaction to wagon/pressure.

She's towny imo because of her unconscious confbias on me. Her mentioning the relationship of my vote with the poe I showed, accusing me of being a liar, interpreting my reads as fabricated to simulate genuine and association with scum!Clidd that she experienced are indications of a line of confbias.

I have a hard time seeing scum!Kanna projecting this organically.

Yeah atm I'm wrestling with whether or not scum!Kanna comes up with that. At the same time, though, i fail to see why she would find you very suspicious for treating her and Uncrowned differently especially when she didn't have a strong opinion on Unc.

[Morning Tweet]

To take 434 as a good faith thought you had, you have some games in mind where you saw Tweetie!Scum behave similarly and win through this style of play

when challenged on it, you say refuse, which implies you were not actually thinking of any games.

It's similar to the brazen manner you pushed with noraa on my slot and refused to engage in any logical discussion whatsoever.

There are no scum games where i play like this so he cant do that

MT confirmed what I said though so you can take her word for it

i confirmed wot now?

I don't really know if my tone changes or not as scum, playing scum makes me anxious so my post frequency goes down and I will usually run out of steam on things to say after a while. My scumhunting definitely changes

I read many MT games and her tone is always like this. The tone doesn't change it's only the scumhunting that does.

why are you scumreading me in this game then?! This is nothing like i've ever done as scum and at the very best it still doesn't even resemble it much so there's no reason i should be your top scumread

@Pooky

opinion on my ABR theory?

[Morning Tweet]

The probability of Kanna scum = 0

Literally why

specifically my read on Kanna is from this game:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=85019

My Kanna is beautiful - pure and true. I would be beyond devastated if she were scum, and in affairs of the heart I am almost never wrong.

first she doesnt say anything in the first 7 posts, makes setup comments, keeps talking about the setup even when voting (i assume this is a pretty mechanically heavy thing), she says she's town, then it looks like she's sad about your death.. more mechanical play

What'd you get from that game? Since it's Kanna's setup she mostly talks about it the whole way thru. Kanna this game isn't even similar imo

[Morning Tweet]

Albert B. Rampage - Null/Scum - I didn't like how ABR said MT was scum and then refused to give any example games to show how her tone was similar to her scum games, I'd think if that was a genuine thought in his head, he would've had to have been thinking about an actual game where she is similar and be able to provide such an example quite easily when asked for. Instead he responded with "no I'm too lazy for that" when it would've been much faster to just type out the name of the game. Laziness implies that he is too lazy to look through her games for an example, hence he is not actually thinking of a specific game but was just throwing that out there to keep POE larger. I also do not like the way he provides little to no reasoning for his votes.

Bullshit he has any games he can provide, he's just guessing im scum while being mysterious so if i actually flip scum he can rub it in everyone else's faces

That or he's scum being intentionally LHF, I guess. I just haven't seen him play like this before

Morning Tweet - I think she's in her town meta, her thoughts flow a lot more easily, she also has a town-tell that Hectic explained to me a while ago, she knows of this town-tell so I'm not sure how reliable it is or whether she can replicate it in her scum games. Tonally she feels very town. The latest tack she's taken to attack me feels like something I don't think scum!tweet does because it's easier for her to pocket me I guess?

HE TOLD YOU ABOUT THAT?

i am going to get hectic for that later

Kanna - I'm not sure words will do justice to how strong my town-read is here. This world is crazy and mean and we're all looking for some kind of connection to fill what has been missing. I don't always soul-read people but when I do I am almost never wrong.

This game isn't?? even similar?? to dark twisted bloodline???

I guess I wouldn't get a soulread, but still

Uncrowned - Trying to steal my beloved Kanna from me, bad intentions? Feels like he's going the polar opposite of his play in Dark Waltz II where he was scum and I modded/Kanna played.

Do you draw any conclusions from Uncrowned taking on this new playstyle? i wish i were more familiar with him

[Alisae]

Bullshit he has any games he can provide, he's just guessing im scum while being mysterious so if i actually flip scum he can rub it in everyone else's faces

Thats really alpha coming from ABR

[Alisae]

what a player XD

[clidd]

Morning, she doesn't know what she's doing because of the confbias.

At least not consciously, but it also depends on how she will act in the next posts.