Newbie 2054 - GAME OVER

[ItalianoVD]

That’s why townhunting is so important to do, I’d say even more important then scumhunting. I’m not saying don’t scumhunt, by all means you still need to do so, but if you can literally tick people off the list then the scumhunting will come so much easier for you.

Just like as scum you find ways to “scumread” players as town you find ways to “townread”. There is a reason why I was never gonna go for Meuh, Alisae, or Krazy, no matter what people had said and on Day 2, I was able to take Marci off. I could have been wrong, but I’ve done it enough times to know to follow my gut when it gets pinged by both scum and town. The more games you guys play you’ll be able to as well.

My weakness has always been second-guessing and overthinking and while I still suffer from it at times, the reps I have gotten in this game has helped me extremely, where I am able to trust myself a lot more, so the only way to get better is more reps. One more thing I do wanna say to the rookies is no matter how good you get with your reads or how much you trust your gut make sure you always stay honest with yourself, no one likes a jerky, arrogant, know-it-all. I really had to learn that the hard way, but hopefully it’ll help you guys.

[Meuh]

Thanks Itali!

[Alisae]

finding town is actually easier than finding scum.
I've had a lot of really good reads just by being able to say "ya all of these people are just more town than this player"

[Cantripmancer]

Yeah, and like, I didn't see Harumi slightly townspewing herself by accidentally sabotaging her towncred by moving chosen to null when he was at f-1 until like my fourth reread. That's a very subtle thing though. That thing where you put me in your readslist twice was so townie... lmao, like you did have some very townie posts this game

I do think you needed some "big town energy" near EoD though, like if your attitude is "oh I'm gonna get hammered so I'm not going to try to case harumi" kinda meant no one had a lot of motivation to move off you. This is not a game that was lost due to you being scummy, this was a game that was lost due to town finding town, which is generally the reason *scum games should be lost* if you're going to lose a scum game. It's for that reason that playing scum is hard, imo.

Yeah, this game suffered from--as far too many of my games do--real life preventing me from participating as I needed to. I *knew* that I needed a hard push against Harumi (or something similar) to gain some town pants, but I just didn't have time. :/ My rule number 1 for playing scum: Don't be lazy. But rl commitments meant I couldn't bring my full force to bear.

Not that pulling a Harumi elim would have saved my bacon, not staring down two more eliminations, but I've never been much of a quitter.

if I survived D1 IVD was on my list of people needing to gotten rid of, wouldn't have gone down the SE list, but last game I got a lotta success from hitting those who simply did good deductive/stabilizing posts. there needs more paranoia and tin foil hatting

It usually takes me a while but once I can get my bearings I can figure things out fairly good.

@Cantrip: we’re you trying to get people to follow you onto me why you stuck with me so long?

Nah, that's pretty standard for town!me to park on a player until I have valid reason to move. And I was still 'trying to figure you out', so...

@Chosen, sorry I didn't kill Krazy N1 like you suggested. I placeholdered Kazyan for the mason crumb, meaning to review and change if I didn't feel it strongly enough, but came back to the thread an hour too late. Thanks for scumming with me!

@Everyone: Thanks for the enjoyable game. Sorry if my low participation resulted in frustration.

[Alisae]

Cantrip I don't think you not killing Krazy changes the outcome of the game.

[Alisae]

Either way GG hope you had fun!

[marcistar]

OMG LOLL I FORGOT ABOUT THIS GAME AND GOT TOO BUSY WITH MY SCHOOLWORK

Marci -- I think you did a really good job of projecting a townie tone, but sometimes when wagons stall out be a little more willing to compromise to end day with a flip. Unless you're really sure someone is town, it's better to hammer.

I wanna follow thru with my opinions tho,
but i did think chosen was scum at a certain point but kept defending them anyways cuz the only way i couldve thought to attack them would seem a bit too bitchy imo and i dont wanna be mean

i just mostly felt bad for them ;-;

Oh yeah, and if any of you all use discord, feel free to join the cow level -- https://discord.gg/HUDmCZB -- just an informal mafia server, not the official one

(I'm passing out right now so hopefully none of the regulars there traumatize you)

Really great list and I'd be happy to play with any of you again <3

will you hate it if i join

[marcistar]

@ meuh

LOL I FOUND A TREND IN MY GAMES SO FAR

1) im always vt
2) the second i get sused i lose all motivation

[Alisae]

marci its fine you can join

[eth0s]

Hey guys I am so sorry for disappearing. I actually ended up being stuck in another city due to a snow storm during travel and mafia was the last thing on my mind so I forgot to ask for replacement.

[Kazyan]

No problem. The town managed.

[PenguinPower]