In post 885, Andante wrote:bruh. it's ben 24 hours, I'm literally just yalls low hanging fruit, do yall plan on actually finding scum or is the plan to vote me, have me flip green, then go "andante was just bad" like, I'm not flipping red
Honesty this feels like genuine town frustration. Andante deserves a chance. I think what we've seen so far is more indicative of being new to forum mafia than any alignment.
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:27 pm
by Asteria
In post 892, Andante wrote:Why would scum enter the game going "YES IM SCUM" or whatever??
Scum actually do this too. I'd say a phrase like that is pretty much NAI
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:31 pm
by Asteria
In post 900, Andante wrote:@anyone who is town, if you can't see why dragon is scum from this exchange this morning. whatever
I think Dragons has a point and isn't scum for this. I just think he's wrong
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:39 pm
by Robert M Hunter
In post 949, VFP wrote:So I guess it's just general meta to claim a PR now days.
No one has even been put to E1 and we have 2 claims.
I've just finished a game where there were 3 PRs claimed day 1 and 1 was scum.
UNVOTE: Robert M Hunter
Personally I don't support this kind idlf mentality in general.
I'll take a re look in the morning to see who I vote.
I wasn't at E-1, but everyone scumreads me so it was only a matter of time.
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:40 pm
by Datisi
vote count 1.18
with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-04-21 10:15:00).
In post 897, Save The Dragons wrote:i'd like to state for the record i don't think you're bad at this game, i have never said that nor will i ever. it's not how i play.
* ok, so what? my reaction to votes on me. I don't think I've really ATE'd much this game, want me to just sit here going "guys I'm bad! take it easy on me!!!" cause I'm not doing that, I know I'm not complete trash at this, and my main goal is trying to figure out who is scum and who is annoying town right now.
you're using AtE right now, saying woe is me. it's not about being bad or good. you actually successfully utilized AtE to get Robert to believe you are town.
example:
In post 744, Andante wrote:ah crap. I have 4 votes on me... I kinda hate this.... I'm just gonna dissapear for a bit and hope the votes get off me
now i get this can come from frustrated town. but the fact that it got someone off of you raises my hackles a little bit. on its own it doesn't mean much but in conjunction with the rest of my points it leads me to believe you rolled scum.
... how the heck is that ate?? I was pissed off IRL, told yall I was just gonna go away instead of throwing out personal attacks. I wasn't trying to appeal to anyone's emotions.
You are literally REACHING for every "reason" I can be scum... and you know you're reaching too. again, setting up for my town flip, cause you know I'm flipping town. "this can come from frustrated town"
I'm done conversing with you, this is literally going no where.
@anyone who is town, if you can't see why dragon is scum from this exchange this morning. whatever
It's interesting that I might have been the only player to see STD as scum, and you voted me.
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:45 pm
by Asteria
In post 920, Andante wrote:I know yall don't wanna read, but like, I'm currently like 99% sure Robert is flipping scum, so if you think Robert is town, I'd love to hear it. Robert, if you're town, sorry, but I don't think you could convince me not to vote you here, unless you had some valid effort to find scum? but chilling on the Andante wagon won't help me flip lmao
For Robert I was thinking his entrance readslist would have been a bit bold coming from scum since the entire thing is basically a joke (too funny to be scum, what I'm town for, calling people buddies, etc). Between that and his second readslist he didn't really do much. I'm curious about why he's not putting in any effort to interact with players directly since that's what he said he reads best from. On his second readslist: I thought his point against you was a new (but bad) take, also his take on lemons being scum despite being a mostly universal TR was interesting, I don't think scum is as quick to say the line about Osuka as he was, townreading pawn despite town!pawn being lhf right now isn't bad. The default townread thing about Osuka was weird, especially considering how he has a null section that has other people in it. Why don't they get to default as town too?
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:55 pm
by Asteria
In post 942, Green Crayons wrote:the timing of adante's claim when she isn't exactly primed for an elim, but also it's suuuper weak and not something that would save her from an elim, doesn't strike me as a particularly smart scum play and so probably not coming from scum (~*~noobscum~*~ or otherwise)
VOTE: robert
Scum!Andante would likely have discussed claiming with her partners first and assuming they have experience they would have told her not to
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:57 pm
by Asteria
In post 944, Green Crayons wrote:not “who is posting humor” which is a dumb thing to ask bc as we all know nobody is funny on ms
You get to be the one funny person on ms for this. Congrats
Crumbing isn't really viable in my opinion if you claim it the same day you crumbed. Crumbing is for the long term. Anyone can crumb something in their first post and then use that the second there's a decent wagon on them
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:06 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 955, Robert M Hunter wrote:It's interesting that I might have been the only player to see STD as scum, and you voted me.
VOTE: STD
My dragon might be working for the good guys
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:29 pm
by Anya
Andante consistently saying she's gonna lurk or take a break yet continuing to post constantly is pretty towny
lmao I had that same reaction, not sure that saying it's obvious I was a pr is a towny line?? but if it was obvious, why were you voting me? don't you not wanna vote out PRs??
also I'm not sure I like calling Dragons std...
why are one of these question marks solo Andante??
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:33 pm
by Anya
what does 1 2 7 3 mean
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:40 pm
by Anya
can someone explain to me in excruciating detail why asteria is wolf so i can feel good about voting her
In post 944, Green Crayons wrote:I asked for you to point out who is hiding behind humor, which was your theory about scum using humor here, not “who is posting humor” which is a dumb thing to ask bc as we all know nobody is funny on ms
Well if I knew as simple as who I would just be saying X and or Y are scum for hiding behind humour.
The fact so many players are going this route, it just means scum are getting away with it.
To clarify, I think scum are getting away with avoiding answering questions or giving realistic reads / reasons. I'm not set on who but Robert's original read list and some responses I have seen from them are a good start.
And there's more than 3 people playing like this, so it means that town are doing the same thing.
so i guess to get to the heart of this
you think that bc some not insignificant amount of the player base is trying to be funny
scum must be using humor as a weapon of blending in
but you don't have specific posts that are pinging you as scum potentially using humor as camo (well except robert but BUT things have changed maybe there)
this is just a theory about maybe what scum might want to do
.......
i think this is a bad theory but maybe town indicative
Crumbing isn't really viable in my opinion if you claim it the same day you crumbed. Crumbing is for the long term. Anyone can crumb something in their first post and then use that the second there's a decent wagon on them
i dont understand this
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:19 pm
by Robert M Hunter
In post 744, Andante wrote:ah crap. I have 4 votes on me... I kinda hate this.... I'm just gonna dissapear for a bit and hope the votes get off me
In post 747, Andante wrote:Like, do people want me to claim? cause we're not voting me out, I'm important. I'm the doctor the red one
I thought those were pretty strong hints.
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:21 pm
by Robert M Hunter
In post 968, Green Crayons wrote:was your earlier posting totally in earnest, or was some of your posting just noise ("humor") mixed in with real reads?
All real, but maybe a bit of exaggerated page 5 confidence.
In post 744, Andante wrote:ah crap. I have 4 votes on me... I kinda hate this.... I'm just gonna dissapear for a bit and hope the votes get off me
In post 747, Andante wrote:Like, do people want me to claim? cause we're not voting me out, I'm important. I'm the doctor the red one
I thought those were pretty strong hints.
In the initial post of the game we were told that mafia for sure has a doctor.... and the fact you didn't realize that means you didn't read it, and that further supports you being scum, just saying... Cause I know town would actually read the paragraph about what this setup is.
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:41 pm
by Andante
It's literally highlighted in red under setup information, and if you weren't aware of that???
I was clearly making a joke about being that maf doc, or did you think I was softing the town version of your role? Who cares what I say, I can literally still be VT, yall have no clue, nor will I share
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:42 pm
by Andante
Robert, I'll help you, this should link to the post where I suggest you read the setup info... just sayin #1
the red one