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Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 9:29 am
by Irrelephant11
In post 949, Irrelephant11 wrote:Writing 946 made me realize fire is probably town

Not sure who I have the least paranoia about to fill my fifth spot
Gonna sit and wait a bit
ebwop

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 9:30 am
by Save The Dragons
ari how has your read on fire evolved

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 9:53 am
by Aristeia
he has gotten townier but not like something I'd bet a kidney on.

I feel like I have gotten more confused over time and that's kind of a weird feeling.

I log in and it's kind of like I realize I know nothing.

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:03 am
by Datisi
In post 952, Aristeia wrote:I log in and it's kind of like I realize I know nothing.
hi ari <3

would you like to be in the coalition? i'll be super sad if you say you don't, picking a coalition with you in it is difficult enough already :<

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:06 am
by Save The Dragons
maybe i should flirt with datisi and see what happens

hi dats <3 happy birthday

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:14 am
by Save The Dragons
i scared him away

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:19 am
by Datisi
thank you std :>

i hope ari won't be too mad at you

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:33 am
by Datisi
okay i guess ari isn't coming back right now

this is one of those times where i'm genuinely not sure if i'm playing the same game as someone else because i read irrel's towncase on std in along with his iso open in another tab and it's just like. i don't get it. a decent amount of points are mindmelds (which obviously i won't get) and then there's points on e.g. >, /, , where i'm just like, what's a real feeling there? how is that earnestly sorting mena? *what* is so good about that post?

like i don't think irrel is scum, actually i really liked the logic went though and how it ended with a heal on fire. but i'm also thinking back to irrel describing my playstyle as "unwritten thoughts don't exist" and thonking because i when i read i feel like i'm missing things

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:37 am
by Irrelephant11
My point was never that *YOUR unwritten thoughts don’t exist*
It was that you seem to *think unwritten thoughts don’t exist*

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:39 am
by Irrelephant11
Only scum (&the occasional OCD player) explain everything they do. Town are too busy looking for scum

If you have specific questions, ask

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:39 am
by Aristeia
In post 953, Datisi wrote:would you like to be in the coalition? i'll be super sad if you say you don't, picking a coalition with you in it is difficult enough already :<
You know I want to be with you dear <3

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:40 am
by Datisi
no, no, i got that, that's what i'm saying. i feel like you're seeing some sorta deep thought process behind std's posts and i'm like "this looks like a puddle to me" so i'm thinking if it's me who's wrong or the kids who's wrong

pedit: @irrel

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:40 am
by Datisi
In post 960, Aristeia wrote:
In post 953, Datisi wrote:would you like to be in the coalition? i'll be super sad if you say you don't, picking a coalition with you in it is difficult enough already :<
You know I want to be with you dear <3
<3
what would be your current preferred coalition?

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:44 am
by fireisredsir
does anyone have a strong read on menalque and if so can they explain it

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:46 am
by Aristeia
In post 962, Datisi wrote:
In post 960, Aristeia wrote:
In post 953, Datisi wrote:would you like to be in the coalition? i'll be super sad if you say you don't, picking a coalition with you in it is difficult enough already :<
You know I want to be with you dear <3
<3
what would be your current preferred coalition?
I dunno my brain is super mushy ~_~.

I need some time to think about everything again.

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:46 am
by skitter30
In post 889, Malakittens wrote:It’s just the more I catch up on I don’t believe the crap that is coming out of aris mouth. I also love how everyone starts to push me out for being lurker and she doesn’t know me one bit but tries to justify her crap ass scum read on me based off two metas and says early in the game multiple time that those whom she doesn’t have exp playing with she tends to read wrong

Without actually reassessing she is wrong
I'm not pushing you for being a lurker at all
I'm just saying that at this point you're being sufficiently less townie than like everyone else and i dont see why you should be in mu coalition over, say, dats

I actuallu think its a little bit reductive to say people are scumreading u cuz you're lurking

Possible you answered later and i didnt get there yet, but why is ari scum now again?
Can you give an example where 'you dont believe the crap coming out of ari's mouth'?

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:47 am
by Aristeia
my preference would be to sheep you if you told me you were super sure about [5 names] because I would be very happy if you could carry me it would make me very happy.

I'm not sure I would do better than you in picking out five names.

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:48 am
by skitter30
In post 892, Malakittens wrote:Std I really don’t know how to read you. Every single game you’re always just in a null spot and I hope 2 he’ll there’s a good player who can read you transparently well

So I just don’t ever feel comfortable putting yoy in a coalition in my mind when I don’t even know where to begin with reading ur alignment
In post 895, Malakittens wrote:
In post 893, Save The Dragons wrote:i don't think that's a good reason but ok

i believe in you i believe you can read me
I mean I got close to having you a solid town read in control

But that was like waaaaay late in the game

Maybe it’s not a great reason but it’s something that I constantly deal with u.
I don’t want to risk placing someone who could be mafia in a coalition when we need to have 5 townies in a townblock
So why would I want to place someone who I’m reading as null in it???
If ari/dats is tvs as you're positing
And std is out of the coalition

Shouldnt std be like ur biggest scumread? This reads more like you just dont know how to read him. Dont understand why he's lower in coalition-ness for u than like the rest of the pl

Pedit was that @me?

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:50 am
by skitter30
In post 898, Menalque wrote:skitter, what is your paranoia re: dats stemming from?

***

fire, if you swap out skitter and Relly then we have a deal
I'm not convinced he's out of his range and i dont townread him enuf to feel confident betting the game on him

Its not to say i scumread him necessarily, but that's what i feel rn

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:51 am
by skitter30
In post 887, fireisredsir wrote:i think if ari is scum she's likely scum with someone who is already in, and so there is very little utility to leaving her out
... honestly this is a p good point

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:52 am
by Datisi
In post 963, fireisredsir wrote:does anyone have a strong read on menalque and if so can they explain it
i don't have a "strong" read but

i think my point for him being town in is still pretty decent

also i'm skimming over his iso and he just... vibes town? i guess this will be p difficult to explain when my experience with him is in ballpark of 20 games, but i'd usually get a vibe when he's being actively manipulative and trying to get things his way, and i just don't get that feeling right now

like i'd imagine if he's scum here he'd be acting with a bit more force to him, which is kind of similar to my ari read but it still applies

i can probably point out specific posts if needed but

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:54 am
by skitter30
In post 969, skitter30 wrote:
In post 887, fireisredsir wrote:i think if ari is scum she's likely scum with someone who is already in, and so there is very little utility to leaving her out
... honestly this is a p good point
Tbh the more I think abt it from this pov i'm not entirelu opposed to putting ari in
(On the condition that if it fails and she doesnt, like, solve the game she gets flipped before elo)

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:55 am
by skitter30
In post 930, Irrelephant11 wrote:Let’s just do me/fire/std/NK15/mala
Simple, easy, everyone can get on biard
This coalition for the win :upvote:
/s

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:55 am
by Datisi
In post 966, Aristeia wrote:you told me you were super sure
does this sound like something i would ever say? :shifty:

also you're like, one of the people that i currently feel the surest on being town and i know you are generally better than me at reading people so i was hoping i could see your preference for a coalition and work with you there

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:57 am
by fireisredsir
In post 970, Datisi wrote:
In post 963, fireisredsir wrote:does anyone have a strong read on menalque and if so can they explain it
i don't have a "strong" read but

i think my point for him being town in is still pretty decent

also i'm skimming over his iso and he just... vibes town? i guess this will be p difficult to explain when my experience with him is in ballpark of 20 games, but i'd usually get a vibe when he's being actively manipulative and trying to get things his way, and i just don't get that feeling right now

like i'd imagine if he's scum here he'd be acting with a bit more force to him, which is kind of similar to my ari read but it still applies

i can probably point out specific posts if needed but
this helps ty