Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Nero Cain]

Most

of the wagons right now are trash

go on.

[Vecna]

Why on earth would you NOT put in the effort to sort these slots?

You can wait late game if I'm around

Scumread intensifies.

[Vecna]

In response to the posts / votes following this:

But I'm going out, my daughter's glasses are ready to pick up.

I

never

lie about RL.

It's still day so I assume I haven't been lynched. Congratulations, you're managed to keep civilization going.

In separate news,

it is bedtime

, tomorrow I have work, a 504 meeting for my son, my daughter's 16th birthday.
You can expect serious work from me if I survive to get a wonder and useful results, or about day 5 if not.
Meanwhile, chill pills all around. Thanks!

Just because you dont lie about reallife dont make you town.

As town you never actually mention your reallife, and you dont care at all whether people know why youre afk.

Have all our previous games been during the holidays when I'm on vacation from work and the kids are out of school?

The reason doesnt matter, its the behaviour. Town-Davesaz wouldnt try to laugh this off, but be snappy and confrontational at me being terrible for being so wrong. At least thats how id picture your response to this pressure if it was wrong.

[Vecna]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 9#p8816739
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 3#p8774803

Well at least that is something of a defence - allthough finding 1 example per game still doesnt raelly compare to what we've seen here.

Hmmmm

[Caesar Wills It]

Specifically, the efforts against Senators Senpai, nancy, and yourself meet with Our disdain, as does lingering resentment against Our Person. The attacks against Senator davesaz also seem baseless, though We object with less vigor. We have no feelings whatever regarding Senator Cloudkicker, as Our investigation of him remains inconclusive, and We approve of incipient movement against Maxous and Leonshade.

We have given the criminal Vecna the additional scrutiny that Senator nancy requested, in light of her insight, but remain steadfast in Our judgment against the traitor. However, We recognize that perseverating for a conviction of the barbarian in this session is likely a fruitless effort, so we will lend the efforts against the scoundrel Leonshade Our blessing.

We fervently hope to elaborate on these positions soon.

VOTE: Leonshade

[Caesar Wills It]

The preceding address was directed to Senator Nero Cain.

[Vecna]

Subject: Gistou: Madness of Monsters

Just saw the 1st vc after dinner. Don't forget the plurality lynch mechanic. Be especially wary of unvote / revote the same player in a short timeframe, as it will be seen as manipulative to push that player lower in the group of tied votes.
I played plurality for years before moving here, so have all the relevant tricks up my sleeves

This is from the scum PT. As scum Davesaz has a mechanics mentality that is missing from his play.
He is also a lot more confident as scum.
Furthermore he handled RL differently.

UNVOTE: Davesaz

[Vecna]

@Vecna: I like your Dave case but I also want to hear from others like Math who have town meta on Dave. I just don't feel Dave is scum though.

Noted, and I value your and math's opinion on this. Searching for a different wagon - people hopped on in a terrrible manner (Leon, Alisae) so im suddenly liking this wagon a lot less since it feels like the day3 mislynch.

[Vecna]

Nero is more interested in sounding plausible than being right.

theses posts of him before this statement sound like neither to me

[Vecna]

UNVOTE:

Oh, he unvoted before me. Nice

[Vecna]

VOTE: Maxous
Dear town: Can we please not no lynch today and lynch Maxous. Thanks.
Love, Ali

Oh even Alisae unvoted before me. hmmmm

[Vecna]

LUV Cloud maybe.
Sondam no.
BaeReed no.
Those are solid "NO"s
Those "NO"s mean if scum want to lynch Sondam and BaeReed, they're going to have to nightkill me.

convince me why I need to believe your reads, when your read on mine is completely wrong, and youve been refusing to answer any of my questions the entire game.

Do this, and we might actually get somewhere where I take your reads seriously and we can get to a great lynch today.

[Vecna]

What ho, Senators!

Your Glorious Emperor tends to concur with Senator Lil Uzi Vert regarding Senator Sondam, but as We suspect the former's motives, We are less secure in this assessment.

Much of what has gone on in Our absence feels like the Senate's usual frustration and inactivity. We believe many of the present candidates for conviction to be victims of plots by enemies of the Empire, looking to seize upon the Senate's intractability.

Spoiler: Prodge?

This isn't

really

a blatant prodge, but I'm in that range.

I'm trying here, guys. I've been mostly keeping up, but it's been hard to muster the effort to do the heavy lifting I really need to do to make a real re-entrance. Suffice to say that I have some good reasons to suspect LUV, and will do my damnedest to post my case on him before day end in case I die (unlikely, given the potential to ML me.) Sondam was/is also on my list, but LUV looking to opportunistically move on them makes me uneasy.

Most of the wagons right now are trash.

You still have a lot more pressing matters to attend to as well. Were still looking for a wagon, and youre quickly sneaking back to the top of my preference list.

[Vecna]

Specifically, the efforts against Senators Senpai, nancy, and yourself meet with Our disdain, as does lingering resentment against Our Person. The attacks against Senator davesaz also seem baseless, though We object with less vigor. We have no feelings whatever regarding Senator Cloudkicker, as Our investigation of him remains inconclusive, and We approve of incipient movement against Maxous and Leonshade.

We have given the criminal Vecna the additional scrutiny that Senator nancy requested, in light of her insight, but remain steadfast in Our judgment against the traitor. However, We recognize that perseverating for a conviction of the barbarian in this session is likely a fruitless effort, so we will lend the efforts against the scoundrel Leonshade Our blessing.

We fervently hope to elaborate on these positions soon.

VOTE: Leonshade

VOTE: Caesar

Just have had about enough of this nonsense.

[Sondam]

^scumclaim

~Gerry

[Sondam]

Like this feels like Gerry's scum game to me.

^Scum claim

~Gerry

[Sondam]

Neither head of Sondam has dropped the scumtell I have on them. It's not impossible for them to be playing a coasting scumgame but they both like scum way more than town so I doubt it, and I actually expect both of them to tryhard as scum which doesn't appear to be the case here. I've been wrong on that kind of read before though (specifically on Nahdia) so take it with a grain of salt.

^ You shouldn't try and meta me, it will go wrong.

But this is prob town analysis

~Gerry

[Vecna]

^ doing control + f to find their name, ignores everything else, thinking they know shit

[Sondam]

im okay voting in maxous gin leon, not nancy nero

Why arent you voting mefia

~Gerry

im voting mefia, if you have something on leon im open to it

Maria seems to scumread Leon too. So, if Vecna doesn't get any votes on it before deadline, I'll lunch, leon

~Gerry

[Sondam]

^ doing control + f to find their name, ignores everything else, thinking they know shit

^^^^^

Scumclaim. Clearly just reading the last 2 pages.

~Gerry

[Vecna]

All you people with your fake reads on me should probably realize that at least 5-6 people have mentioned such a read on me. Any person which was really reading the game, AND really scumreading me would be trying to wagon me by now.

but ofcourse, its mostly fabricated nonsense.

People this applies to: Nancy, Alisea, Sondam, Caesar, Mathblade and someone else im no doubt forgetting.

[Sondam]

Gut read Nero/PV/Gin/Creature

Need to take time tonight to see if that makes sense with vitals etc. yay for lots of driving and dealing with people.

Did Math really just sayd PV is mefia. lol scumclaim

~Gerry

[Sondam]

All you people with your fake reads on me should probably realize that at least 5-6 people have mentioned such a read on me. Any person which was really reading the game, AND really scumreading me would be trying to wagon me by now.

but ofcourse, its mostly fabricated nonsense.

People this applies to: Nancy, Alisea, Sondam, Caesar, Mathblade and someone else im no doubt forgetting.

For someone you think is scum, you sure have been appealing to us a lot. (scumclaim)

~Gerry

[Vecna]

Youre gonna state now that youve actually read the thread Gerry? Dont make me laugh

[Sondam]

I have read the latest stuff, I was on vacation and I was swamped with like 5 other games when I first joined this. Now neither is the case and I can give more reads and such and actually read things.

~Gerry