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Post Post #9550 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:13 am

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what if ww and maf shot the same person one night
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what if maf and FL shot catboi n1
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Post Post #9552 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:14 am

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im cool with killing klick i think

VOTE: klick
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Post Post #9553 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:16 am

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In post 9550, Save The Dragons wrote:what if ww and maf shot the same person one night
Let’s go through that assumption (assumption FL is town):

On N1) Mafia would also have to shoot RC. There’s no evidence of this being a desired outcome. Wolves shooting RC is preposterous.

On N2) FL shot Mastina.
Therefore Mafia in that world gain nothing by helping FL vig so mafia shot butters.
Then wolves have to shoot butters and there’s no evidence of that. Butters is not widely townread

It just doesn’t fit.
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Post Post #9554 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:16 am

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VOTE: Klick
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Post Post #9555 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:17 am

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In post 9548, Save The Dragons wrote:not sure how i feel about titus being "math could be town but i still want to lim him"

but scum!titus could probably find a reason to scumread town!math so maybe it's okay
Fair. You missed Civilization mafia. Scum won flawlessly. Math and our hydra grew so disfunctional I tried to selflim but eventually subbed out. If a slot needs a policy, it gets a policy. Math hasn't learned much since an old Stevens Universe game (that I can't find) where he claimed all the conftown were scum in cahoots.
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Post Post #9556 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:17 am

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In post 5261, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Okay I'm a one shot gunsmith.
okay so monkeyman claims 1 shot gunsmith and still gets blocked? i think that's unlikely. also what if mastina used her rb shot n1
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Post Post #9557 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:18 am

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In post 9556, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 5261, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Okay I'm a one shot gunsmith.
okay so monkeyman claims 1 shot gunsmith and still gets blocked? i think that's unlikely. also what if mastina used her rb shot n1
It’s unlikely unless mafiascum checked me N1.

Mastina using her shot N1 means
A) Klick is Ascetic.
B) One kill from Mafia or Wolves is missing N2
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Post Post #9558 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:19 am

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However I know I got no result N2 so something causes that.
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Post Post #9559 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:20 am

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In post 9555, Nashville Dreams wrote:
In post 9548, Save The Dragons wrote:not sure how i feel about titus being "math could be town but i still want to lim him"

but scum!titus could probably find a reason to scumread town!math so maybe it's okay
Fair. You missed Civilization mafia. Scum won flawlessly. Math and our hydra grew so disfunctional I tried to selflim but eventually subbed out. If a slot needs a policy, it gets a policy. Math hasn't learned much since an old Stevens Universe game (that I can't find) where he claimed all the conftown were scum in cahoots.
You’ve also not accounting for the games recently where I have been good.

You’re just actively painting me as bad
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Post Post #9560 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:20 am

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In post 9553, MathBlade wrote:
In post 9550, Save The Dragons wrote:what if ww and maf shot the same person one night
Let’s go through that assumption (assumption FL is town):

On N1) Mafia would also have to shoot RC. There’s no evidence of this being a desired outcome. Wolves shooting RC is preposterous.

On N2) FL shot Mastina.
Therefore Mafia in that world gain nothing by helping FL vig so mafia shot butters.
Then wolves have to shoot butters and there’s no evidence of that. Butters is not widely townread

It just doesn’t fit.
n1:
maf-no kill
ww-no kill
fl-catboi/RC

n2:
maf-butter
ww-mastina or butter
fl-mastina

n3:
maf-koba
ww-koba

could be possible

also possible

n1 mastina successfully rbs the ww kill?

also possible

there's a good protection hiding somewhere
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Post Post #9561 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:22 am

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im not sure i believe town!titus thinks town!math is bad
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Post Post #9562 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:23 am

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In post 9557, MathBlade wrote:
In post 9556, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 5261, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Okay I'm a one shot gunsmith.
okay so monkeyman claims 1 shot gunsmith and still gets blocked? i think that's unlikely. also what if mastina used her rb shot n1
It’s unlikely unless mafiascum checked me N1.

Mastina using her shot N1 means
A) Klick is Ascetic.
B) One kill from Mafia or Wolves is missing N2
occums razor probably says your the one lying lol

maybe you are just lying

but maybe it's klick who's an ascetic 1 shot gunsmith ww or something like that
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Post Post #9563 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:23 am

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In post 9560, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 9553, MathBlade wrote:
In post 9550, Save The Dragons wrote:what if ww and maf shot the same person one night
Let’s go through that assumption (assumption FL is town):

On N1) Mafia would also have to shoot RC. There’s no evidence of this being a desired outcome. Wolves shooting RC is preposterous.

On N2) FL shot Mastina.
Therefore Mafia in that world gain nothing by helping FL vig so mafia shot butters.
Then wolves have to shoot butters and there’s no evidence of that. Butters is not widely townread

It just doesn’t fit.
n1:
maf-no kill
ww-no kill
fl-catboi/RC

n2:
maf-butter
ww-mastina or butter
fl-mastina

n3:
maf-koba
ww-koba

could be possible

also possible

n1 mastina successfully rbs the ww kill?

also possible

there's a good protection hiding somewhere

The first option: It’s logically possible but improbable. Imagine you’re scum a second:
Do you leave FL and Titus and Koba alive N1? Why do two scum kill butter?

The second option: Then Klick is Ascetic and still missing a kill N1.

Third option: We have three protective claims already (myself, Cass, and Meg) a fourth would be absurd.
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Post Post #9564 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:24 am

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what did meg claim
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Post Post #9565 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:25 am

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In post 9564, Save The Dragons wrote:what did meg claim
Bodyguard actions in her ISO
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Post Post #9566 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:26 am

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meg you missed lol
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Post Post #9567 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:27 am

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where's my lovely husband to be with the vote count
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Post Post #9568 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:28 am

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In post 9562, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 9557, MathBlade wrote:
In post 9556, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 5261, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Okay I'm a one shot gunsmith.
okay so monkeyman claims 1 shot gunsmith and still gets blocked? i think that's unlikely. also what if mastina used her rb shot n1
It’s unlikely unless mafiascum checked me N1.

Mastina using her shot N1 means
A) Klick is Ascetic.
B) One kill from Mafia or Wolves is missing N2
occums razor probably says your the one lying lol

maybe you are just lying

but maybe it's klick who's an ascetic 1 shot gunsmith ww or something like that
You’re welcome to assume that I am lying,

But that’s not probable is it?

I never endgame here

It’s more important people understand what I am saying so scum!FL and scum!Titus can’t take over the gamestate
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Post Post #9569 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:28 am

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In post 9561, Save The Dragons wrote:im not sure i believe town!titus thinks town!math is bad
Having a town!Math be a good or bad thing depends exclusively on the accuracy of his reads, which is a crapshoot. Town Math does not work well with others although he tries. If you get fluid thinking, you most likely have a scum Math. I haven't seen a multiball Math in quite awhile though. Town Math is incapable of ever taking a back seat if he sees the smallest fact is wrong.

The biggest struggle with reading him is his fast turn around re: night actions after Cephrir announced scum can kill 5 nights in a row.
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Post Post #9570 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:31 am

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Ima pass on the Math wagon. If we are talking in terms of risk vs. reward isn't a SOD/Mena wagon better?
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Post Post #9571 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:32 am

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In post 9570, Nero Cain wrote:Ima pass on the Math wagon. If we are talking in terms of risk vs. reward isn't a SOD/Mena wagon better?
How do you feel about Klick?
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Post Post #9572 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:32 am

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i don't want to vote SOD but i'd do mena but i parked on mena and nothing happened
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Post Post #9573 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:32 am

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In post 9570, Nero Cain wrote:Ima pass on the Math wagon. If we are talking in terms of risk vs. reward isn't a SOD/Mena wagon better?
No. Cass is because they fakeclaimed to survive, have actually been scummy rather than apathetic
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Post Post #9574 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:33 am

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In post 9572, Save The Dragons wrote:i don't want to vote SOD but i'd do mena but i parked on mena and nothing happened
I compromised on Mena earlier and could go there but I really want Klick or FL
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