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jasonT1981 wrote:Again, completely nothing from Hiraki. Only coming out when called out, making a statement about lurking and return to where he came from.

Seriously.. nothing to this game at all day 2.. can we hang him now please?

How about you make a convincing case that people agree with. Sound fair?

Wraith: I voted Guiderian. I never voted Mist. The vote just stayed on.

If I'm a lurker, then why haven't I been prodded. Here's a good question. Jason, who's your scumteam? I want reasoning.

The reason I didn't post was because I had a bad Monday.

One day of the week.

THIS BRICK WALL ISN'T TALKING BACK Y'KNOW.

Hiraki wrote:Wraith: I voted Guiderian. I never voted Mist. The vote just stayed on.

I fail to see the difference between voting someone and leaving your vote on their replacement.

Bah, if they're bring replaced...

@Hiraki: That's the problem - you were on the wagon, but you never voted. Unfortunately, I think a mod error got someone killed...

Hiraki wrote:How about you make a convincing case that people agree with. Sound fair?


If I'm a lurker, then why haven't I been prodded. Here's a good question. Jason, who's your scumteam? I want reasoning.
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Already said that today, pay attention please.

jasonT1981 wrote:Mariyta, Tragedys vote is shameless hoping on the badwagon as I spent a lot of the day yesterday considering him as scum and is still borderline OMGUS from him. His entire reasons for thinking I am scum are that I thought he was scum and pushing him alot I believe. Right now my scum list would be

Hiraki
DarlaBlueEyes
Tragedy
Diddin

However, Hiraki today has gotten even worse and I feel is the most likely to be scum out of the list

vote: Hiraki

For cases, just read me in ISO and you will see several points against them

Or maybe I was hasty in calling "mod error." I suppose the vote is to carry over to the replacement.

DemonHybrid wrote:The fact that she claimed "I am Homer Simpson" in a completely different post worked against her.

But it shouldn't have. I wouldn't have expected a VI to claim in a beautifully elegant manner. Why would claiming the name later be something scum are more likely to do?

Mariyta wrote:

DemonHybrid wrote:Mariyta, do you have a case lined up as to why Fonz is so town? I'd like to hear it. Or is he just town to you cause he's been on site longer?

Why are people so freaking over-the-top ridiculous today? It must be the weather. Everyone is fucking retarded or something. NO, I don't have a "case" lined up, because I'm not voting him. But he has not once made me go "hmmm, I wonder if he's scum."

He

doesn't try to pull stupid gambits day 1 to 'start discussion'.

He

doesn't place illogical votes.

He

doesn't throw out retarded accusations like "It's because he's been on the site longer, isn't it?!?! Isn't it?!?!"

Okay.

Mari?

Time to take a chill pill. Seriously.

Relax.

And tell me why you think he's town.

That's not a ridiculous request. That second question was rhetorical. You really need to chill out.

The Fonz wrote:

DemonHybrid wrote:The fact that she claimed "I am Homer Simpson" in a completely different post worked against her.

But it shouldn't have. I wouldn't have expected a VI to claim in a beautifully elegant manner. Why would claiming the name later be something scum are more likely to do?

Caring about your claim and having all of your ducks in a row instead of making it look like you're a noob making shit up as you go along can really help you out. It looked like she was making things up as she went along, like Ribwich said. And she picked a ridiculously popular character. And she signed up about a month ago.

What about that doesn't look fishy to you?

If she had put all of the specifics of her claim, said what her role name is AND gave her character, all in one post, I would have been much more inclined to stop and say "Hold up, don't hammer." But instead, you attack and vote Ribwich for it.

That doesn't seem like you're thinking things through here, and that's why I'm voting you, for the record.

Anyway, there IS noobish motivation behind doing that, but you would think that, even as a noob, mist would have had her shit straight and cared about how she worded her claim instead of pulling at AtE strings and pleading for her life every other post while giving choppy specifics that looked like she was making things up to make herself look better.

DemonHybrid wrote:

Mariyta wrote:

DemonHybrid wrote:Mariyta, do you have a case lined up as to why Fonz is so town? I'd like to hear it. Or is he just town to you cause he's been on site longer?

Why are people so freaking over-the-top ridiculous today? It must be the weather. Everyone is fucking retarded or something. NO, I don't have a "case" lined up, because I'm not voting him. But he has not once made me go "hmmm, I wonder if he's scum."

He

doesn't try to pull stupid gambits day 1 to 'start discussion'.

He

doesn't place illogical votes.

He

doesn't throw out retarded accusations like "It's because he's been on the site longer, isn't it?!?! Isn't it?!?!"

Okay.

Mari?

Time to take a chill pill. Seriously.

Relax.

And tell me why you think he's town.

That's not a ridiculous request. That second question was rhetorical. You really need to chill out.

Also, to elaborate:

You need to tell me why he's town NOT IN COMPARISON to anyone else. It's obvious that you don't like my play or you think it's scummy or whatever, but it explains nothing. If you're comparing him to me and saying that he's town because he's nothing like me, then that's bullshit, because you aren't voting me. I'm not your primary focus.

Tell me why you think he's town by his actions and his actions alone, not compared to another player.

Wraith wrote:Fluffman's got a point.

Unvote Vote: tvellalot

Let's do this.

WHAT.THE.HELL?

Lurker lynches are bad enough but vote for a guy whose about to get replaced AND can't defend himself is pure shit.

and before you even say "I didn't know!!!" I'm calling bullshit.

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So why are you not paying attention?

Mariyta wrote: Wraith, where do you get that the Hiraki wagon has no support? Though some people have spoken against it, there are still people on it. Grow some and put your money where your mouth is if you feel he's scum. And Hiraki

is

a lurker.

QFT!!!

@DH: No. I'm not going to slog through a shit-ton of posts again just for that. Why not? Don't like it? I've given my scum reads and that's good enough for me. I also think you're likely scum, as you go after people for stupid shit. So, in that light, yeah, I don't really care what you want.

Then you might wanna vote me.

Also, can town not give bad reasons for votes? Not to say that I've given bad reasons, I've given pretty good reasons. But you need rope, so it's fine. I'd just rather lynch Fonz before you.

Also, dam gurl u hype

Nero Cain wrote:

Mariyta wrote: Wraith, where do you get that the Hiraki wagon has no support? Though some people have spoken against it, there are still people on it. Grow some and put your money where your mouth is if you feel he's scum. And Hiraki

is

a lurker.

QFT!!!

Dude, you are just looking for excuses to get me lynched. Grasping at straws. I figured that by this time with so many games together under our belts you'd notice that I have pay selective attention to people, tuning out things I classify as "ignor-able." I seriously didn't even notice those posts.

Only 'cause I think you are scum. Most of us have to rely on whats in the thread to scumhunt. So why aren't you?

Fuck it, I've softclaimed enough times that I'm going to claim, since I'm no longer an info role.
First of all, I call your attention to the End of Day votecount from yesterday:

CallMeLiam wrote:

Vote Count 19

Mist7676 - 13 -

hiraki, SensFan, jasonT1981, The Fonz, sottyrulez, DarlaBlueEyes, LlamaFluff, KageLord, DemonHybrid, Nero Cain, Mariyta, boberz, ribwich

Not Voting Mist7676 - 11 -

tvellalott, Benmage, Wraith, Mist7676, Deer, diddin, Tragedy, Steven Hacking, Sleepless Assassin, Nachomamma8, Lowell

Now, for the claim.

I'm .
Hopefully this explains satisfactorily why I called bullshit on Mist's original "I can talk to other members of my family at Night" claim. But obviously that's not the only reason I claimed; I used my power last Night. There are exactly two threats to the Town that were on the Mist7676 wagon yesterday.

Now, there's two reasons I'm claiming now. The first is obviously that this could be very valuable information as more people flip, and I wanted to make sure I got it out there before I died. The second is that the majority of the anti-town players were off of the Mist wagon, which is interesting in more than one way. In addition to the obvious 'We have higher odds on lynches of people off of the Mist wagon', I'm also curious as to why so many scum stayed off of what looked like an easy mislynch. I think it was Fonz that mentioned yesterday that Scum had no reason to jump to the VI-Town wagon if there were multiple Competent-Town wagons that were viable, and that looks like it may have been the case.

So how many [scums] were actully on the mist wagon?

Why did you use your power on a wagon with 13 people on it -_-

At least we have a ton of confirmed townies...we just don't know who.

Pedit: He said 2 players.

If there's a Lisa CC, out with it, because I want to start building on this information.

Solid. We should start hacking away at off the wagon folks.

Also, , because there's a better chance to hit scum in a smaller pool of players with more possible scum.

Assuming there's no mafia teams, there are roughly 6 Mafiosos. 4 scum would then be in a pool of 11 people.

DemonHybrid wrote:Why did you use your power on a wagon with 13 people on it -_-

a) Because it was a limited-shot role; I find it's best to use it ASAP, or die with chips left on the table.
b) I thought in particular it would be highly instructive to see how many Scum jumped onto the Mist counterwagon that popped up at the last minute.

Alright. I suppose it's not ideal, but it's workable.

Maybe Llama was right about the lurkers. Look how many of them were off the wagon.