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Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:11 am**

Also, BS not replying to my question but calling me suspect for the post where I ask the question is noted. ++scumpoints.

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:12 am**

mothrax wrote:Rayfrost, I have read that last bullet like five times and I don't get it... Rephrase?

"The above bullet points are illogical" - I made the point that they make no sense by making no sense.

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:23 am**

Baby Spice wrote:Mothrax: Do you agree or disagree that "Attempted the impossible" is the scum NK.

If agree, then how else would you explain Fate's death?

If disagree, how would you explain two NK's not happening, given that the second one was after the town doc was dead?
That latter case would also imply that a vig took out Rhinox before he could post in the game which I do not see as a town action. Which leads to a scum vig taking ouf Fate. Again showing that the teams mustn't be joined.

To clarify my point regarding "attempted the impossible" being impossible as the scum NK - SCUM CAN NT KILL EACH OTHER WITHOUT THIS GAME BEING WAY TOO SWINGY. Assuming seraph gift of vig, proper scum lynch, vig hit scum, and the remaining two scum cross kill, the game could end in a single night phase, meaning that attempted the impossible

can't

be the NK. Vi's a better mod than that.

Your disagree is not taking in all the facts. 1. Scum could have hit each other (already showed this would result in a no-kill from prevoius game and showing how it's necessary for game balance). 2. It is possible that any of the kill flavors could be the scum kill. 3. It is possible that one of the people that died was targeted twice and the mod has a set layout for the flavor of the kill in that instance (perhaps in the order of deathheadings in the op).

Vig taking out rhinox before he could post? Meh, not scummy to do. Kill someone you think would be too good as scum to let live on N0/1 saves town from that possibility. It's possible that there is a scum vig, but it's also possible that there is a town vig. Hell, it's even possible that there is a SK. Fact of the matter is... there is no evidence that there is a scum vig. Your argumentation for it seems like scum that made a slip about info they have that is not trying to make up a BS (heh, pun) faillogic explanation. You and your scumbuddies are going to need some better lies than this.

Vote: BabySpice

For emphasis.

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:20 am**

That is now rather than that is not.

Can't believe I made that typo... AGAIN.

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:28 am**

Andrius is pretty much :confirmed: at this point.

Work is kicking my ass at the moment. WILL BE BACK SHORTLY.

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:32 am**

I'm going to jump into Fate's ISO sometime soon.
inHim's avatar will be missed.

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:34 am**

You know what would be cool though? Flashy lights and smoke.

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:36 am**

Damn that submit button.

What I mean is that we've got some of the better players (if not the best) players in this roster sitting up there with POWER, which all good and crap.
But the least they could do is attempt to give out some reads.
I feel like that would be helpful.

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:15 pm**

Do you know what else would be cool?

A damned babyspice lynch. Hop to it, peons.

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:46 pm**

I'm too lazy to see if I'm already voting her or not, but anyway:

Unvote, Vote: Baby Spice

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:14 pm**

You weren't.

Be happy that you are now.

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:18 pm**

I buy all the Baby Spice is acting scummy arguments, but for some reason I'm getting that vibe that those are arising out of stupidity and not actual scumminess.

So, I'll ask again - does anyone have meta on this?

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:09 pm**

I have meta, but I cannot provide it at said time. [On-Going] and all.

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:34 pm**

Vote Count XXI:

Relative silence following Fate and death

Baby Spice (L-3) ~ RayFrost, singersigner, Andrius

mothrax (L-5) ~ Baby Spice
AlmasterGM (L-5) ~ Jack
Andrius (L-5) ~ VasudeVa

Not Voting:

AlmasterGM,

Andrius,

Furcolow, inHimshallibe, mothrax, Nachomamma8,

VasudeVa

--With 11 alive, it will take 6 to lynch.

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Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:36 pm**

Man, I didn't realize there were only 11 of us left. :S
I mean, yeah we've gotten two scum, but shit.
We went from 21 to 11 really fast. :S

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:11 pm**

Well, you're currently voting Baby Spice.

So I'm going to go ahead and assume you have considered ALL RELEVANT INFORMATION.

And

Unvote. Vote: Baby Spice

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:45 pm**

Unvote

Going to reread something quickly...

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:45 pm**

The Word of HitoGreetings. I am hito, your friendly town seraph, and with the help of my divine associates, Zachrulez and Sotty7, we are going to win this game. I've gotten flak for wallposting before, but I think it's warranted here, because a.) I haven't gotten to post all game, b.) I have a lot of info you don't, c.) I'm

God

, for gods sake.

Firstly, I suppose you want to know why I am speaking through Andrius. This is the result of a Holy Order, "Communion." I have a permanent communicative link with Andrius. I'm posting these posts in our QT for him to post in-thread.

With that out of the way, here are the big things you need to know.

Concerning The Heavens

Firstly, you were absolutely correct that we gain 100% of the battery as faith on a lynch. Our very first Holy Order was "Prophecy", and it is what posted the scum faith in thread. It was a strong first move, and worked as intended.

Regarding Halos, we've actually been more or less abstaining from them. While I know it seems like it's best for the town seraphs to continually try to hint at their intentions, it seemed to us that the bickering about what they could mean would be worse than us getting to broadly hint at our thoughts. We prefer a direct approach - if you hadn't noticed.

The one halo that came from us was the double-halo on Rayfrost. This was to signal that the smell of smoke on Magua was not from us (RF's post mentioned a strong town read on Magua). It's our guess that the scum do not have access to two positive halos. As such, if we need to halo something, it will be a double-halo.

We don't want to claim all of the actions we've done, to keep the scum seraphs guessing. Let it suffice to say we have our fingers in many pies.

Concerning the Dead

It's our belief that the kill flavors are as such:

Incinerated: Odd day kill.

Sniper: Odd night kill.

Attempted the Impossible: Serial Killer.

So, that means that

the scum did not kill day one

and that

the serial killer did not kill day two.

The evidence STRONGLY points to AGM as the serial killer. He was on the Day one quickwagon, when there was an "Attempted the Impossible!" kill, and he was absent all of Day Two, during which no "Attempted the Impossible!" kill was sent.

(As an aside, thanks for that Fate kill! We all had a town read on him, he played a strong game here.)

Concerning the Future

Firstly - you should wait on lynching for a good, long time. While most times we prefer a quicker lynch (to maximize the disparity between scum faith gain and our faith gain) we have reasons to want a longer day. After all, you have the chance to directly converse with God! And - get this - God will even answer back! I feel for poor Andrius...poor guy will have to ferry messages from us over and over.

There are also seraph reasons for the delay, but the less Plum, VP, and Amished know about them, the better.

But, just because we're not lynching doesn't mean it's break time! Our goal is to find the scum and SK - just don't actually drop daz hammerzens. Vote as normal until they're L-2; then just drop down psuedovotes until we give the signal.

Also worth noting - if Andrius is killed during the day, proceed immediately with the lynchin'.

Concerning the Forces of Darkness and Shadow

We are confirmed town. Note that we are NOT confirmed right - but all the same, three townies have came together on these reads.

As previously stated, we believe the SK is most likely AGM.

Our top candidates for scum are: singersinger, VV, and Baby Spice.

It's also worth looking at the Day One quickwagon. (The following wagon analysis shamelessly paraphrased from Sotty7's analysis - give her a hand!)

The following players did not post during the D1 quickwagon:

Furcolow
inHimshallibe
Nachomamma8
RayFrost
singersigner
VasudeVa

Both Fate (Shadow Demon) and Kitori (Dark Demon) posted during the quicklynch. However, Fate stepped out for a few hours while the wagon swelled, while Kitori was posting with the wagon at L-1, egging Magua to hammer. As such, it's our belief that the Shadow Demons are the incinerating odd-night killers, and neither Fate nor his scumbuddy sent in a N1 kill.

Combining the wagon info, our general scumreads, and specific associative tells, we think VV is a likely Shadow Demon buddy with Fate.

Well, that about covers it! Thanks for reading. As long as Andrius draws breath, we're here to answer whatever questions you have.

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:49 pm**

Hi Seraphs.

I like your scumreads. Especially singersinger.

Unfortunately, you are very wrong about me being a Serial Killer. I am not really sure what I can do to defend against your evidence, since it's technically TRUE ... but, I'm not

That is all.

Any questions

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:09 pm**

"Sniper: Odd night kill." should be "Sniped: Even Day kill".

^^From Hito

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:13 pm**

ATTN: GOD - Do you have any reasons to believe I'm SK other than this "AGM wasn't here" nonsense?

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:32 pm**

Hmm...

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:08 pm**

Already voting Alm :smug:

A couple things are majorly distracting me from mafia at the moment however (mistborn trilogy + icewind dale 2, yes I have a crappy computer).

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:50 pm**

lynching sk is null, how is that smug worthy?
also, i'm smug about fate buddying andrius as town, i guess hito agrees with my read

Posted: **Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:07 am**

RayFrost #963 wrote:
Baby Spice wrote:
RayFrost wrote:Where does the scum NK fit in all this, then?

Baby Spice #694 wrote:Which makes me think that "attempting the impossible" is the NK, and that Equinox managed to protect the D2 NK.

(post numbers may be off by a couple.)

So Rayfrost. What question didn't I answer?

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