Slandaar wrote:So tell me why you are pestering conf town and not scumbags who have posted nothing?
Heavy lies the Crown dear boy. You’ve become confirmed Town. Your responsibility is at this stage to do more, not less, based on that status. Don’t like it? Tough luck buddy.
And yet you constantly steal the crown for yourself.
MoI wrote:
Anxiety wrote: Kdub vs BBmolla looks to be townvtown
moar nexus votes plz
Oh look … the Zang tell out of one of my top 5 scum suspects who happens to be actively lurking. Nice.
general tells are very meh in my book. I don't like the idea of a townvtown that has been perpetuating since day one; I don't see the scum motivation but maybe you might get too hung up on applying a general tell to a specific situation. Yes I am active lurking, because I have other games that I am playing/modding that are currently a higher priority.
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:41 am
by 4nxi3ty
town: slandaar, nero cain, kdub, bbmolla
leaning town: cow, moi
null: dr
leaning scum:shmugen
scum:nexus
↑Shmugen wrote:I am unsure how to convince people to not blaster me.
This worries me. Quite a bit. It feels more like "don't kill me" than actually doing something useful like scumhunting.
Well of course that portion of my post doesn't feel like scumhunting. Scumhunting is a bit of a difficult game when you have as many lurkers as we do. My vote is on Nexus, I am pleased with the case against Nexus, and unless something drastic happens or we approach the deadline with no lynch, I don't foresee my moving my vote off of Nexus.
↑Shmugen wrote:I am unsure how to convince people to not blaster me.
This worries me. Quite a bit. It feels more like "don't kill me" than actually doing something useful like scumhunting.
Well of course that portion of my post doesn't feel like scumhunting. Scumhunting is a bit of a difficult game when you have as many lurkers as we do. My vote is on Nexus, I am pleased with the case against Nexus, and unless something drastic happens or we approach the deadline with no lynch, I don't foresee my moving my vote off of Nexus.
The problem is that any sort of "what do I have to do to seem town/not get blastered?" question is the same. Scumhunt and just play the game. Asking it is an unnecessary appeal to emotion and completely unuseful. It's just a "I need to live" comment, which, while town don't want to die, is much more inherent in scum play.
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:54 am
by MagnaofIllusion
Anxiety wrote:And yet you constantly steal the crown for yourself.
From the “Useless Commment” Department ….
What is exactly the point of this comment? Are you criticzing me for scum-hunting? For being active? What is the point of this comment?
Anxiety wrote:general tells are very meh in my book. I don't like the idea of a townvtown that has been perpetuating since day one; I don't see the scum motivation but maybe you might get too hung up on applying a general tell to a specific situation. Yes I am active lurking, because I have other games that I am playing/modding that are currently a higher priority.
1. I’m hardly shocked that you find a general tell that possibly incriminates you meh.
2. You don’t see the scum motivation to grab ‘Town Cred’ by calling conflict between Town players that?
3. Thanks for confirming that Shadow was indeed a Serial Killer if you flip scum. Because in multi-scum you’d have no reason to assume everyone not aligned with you is Town.
4. So your other games are just convienantly ‘more important’?
↑Shmugen wrote:I am unsure how to convince people to not blaster me.
This worries me. Quite a bit. It feels more like "don't kill me" than actually doing something useful like scumhunting.
Well of course that portion of my post doesn't feel like scumhunting. Scumhunting is a bit of a difficult game when you have as many lurkers as we do. My vote is on Nexus, I am pleased with the case against Nexus, and unless something drastic happens or we approach the deadline with no lynch, I don't foresee my moving my vote off of Nexus.
The problem is that any sort of "what do I have to do to seem town/not get blastered?" question is the same. Scumhunt and just play the game. Asking it is an unnecessary appeal to emotion and completely unuseful. It's just a "I need to live" comment, which, while town don't want to die, is much more inherent in scum play.
It's more useful to me than the town, true, but I figure there's always the offchance that someone thinks I'm scum for some particular point and I could attempt to clear that up for them.
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:58 am
by Slandaar
Magna;
Was your SD read based solely on the idea my accusation vs malee was terrible and he agreed with you?
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:05 am
by 4nxi3ty
@magna
it was a comment about your personality, you have been constantly undercutting slandaar and from what I can tell it is because you like to be the townleader. I am basically telling you to let slandaar do his own thing; while I may not agree with his dr vote he has been constantly pressuring people and your beratement will only serve to demoralize him.
2. You don't see town motivation to stop a townvtown?
4. at the moment they are more important; whether or not that is just a convient excuse I'll let you decide.
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:03 am
by sword_of_omens
ok..
quick 2 cents...
MOI - still trying to wrap my head around you...what was the purpose of coming out and claiming what you did about responsibilty on Syndrome? based on what you said, and if i'm guessing correctly, enough people wanted you dead to warrant a Syndrome kill.. and I doubt Slandaar had a blaster shot if he could ModConf himself...then we have the NK's...unless we have another Vig or a redirector who got very lucky, i don't eally see how there could be only 1 scum team.
WC - can someone please tell me what the case is on WC? based on my theory above i can only see WC as scum is if he is on a second team of scum and they have access to Blaster shot(s)...targetting MOI would make sense as MOI came after him pretty hard. like i said, i don't think enough people thought MOI was scum to warrant blasters...
Shotgun's play is all over the place bad...i can vote him today if it comes down to it, but a well placed blaster shot i think would be better...
Iece- i still like my vote on Iece...pretty sure that there's scum in that thar Jar-Jar...i can see how he would be bitter about everyone making fun of him...oh..and the fact that Iece isn't playing as the town Iece i remember helps me feel very comfortable with my vote on him.
Nexus - quick ISO of Nexus is pretty much nothing but going after Slandaar...i could vote on Nexus as well if i had to...
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:32 am
by DeathNote
~Sorry I missed Andrius request for replacement. I will find someone ASAP.~
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:34 am
by MagnaofIllusion
My offer still stands - I will cast my vote among any of my current scum reads (Andrius, Anxiety, Shmugen, Iec, Briz) based on what would make the largest wagon among them.
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:37 am
by Slandaar
Yeah Im the townleader round here Magna
No more undercutting me!
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:39 am
by MagnaofIllusion
↑Slandaar wrote:Yeah Im the townleader round here Magna
No more undercutting me!
Townleaders aren't declared. They are made via actions.
So stop whining about it, actually lead by example and I might just stop busting your chops!
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:40 am
by Slandaar
Also I do need you to explain SDtown
I dont understand his nk unless you are scum. So explain the read.
MOI - still trying to wrap my head around you...what was the purpose of coming out and claiming what you did about responsibilty on Syndrome? based on what you said, and if i'm guessing correctly, enough people wanted you dead to warrant a Syndrome kill.. and I doubt Slandaar had a blaster shot if he could ModConf himself...then we have the NK's...unless we have another Vig or a redirector who got very lucky, i don't eally see how there could be only 1 scum team.
WC - can someone please tell me what the case is on WC? based on my theory above i can only see WC as scum is if he is on a second team of scum and they have access to Blaster shot(s)...targetting MOI would make sense as MOI came after him pretty hard. like i said, i don't think enough people thought MOI was scum to warrant blasters...
Shotgun's play is all over the place bad...i can vote him today if it comes down to it, but a well placed blaster shot i think would be better...
Iece- i still like my vote on Iece...pretty sure that there's scum in that thar Jar-Jar...i can see how he would be bitter about everyone making fun of him...oh..and the fact that Iece isn't playing as the town Iece i remember helps me feel very comfortable with my vote on him.
Nexus - quick ISO of Nexus is pretty much nothing but going after Slandaar...i could vote on Nexus as well if i had to...
RE: MoI: That's what I've been saying, there was no reason for him to claim it except to scare people.
RE: Me: That doesnt make sense. Going after MoI with blasters? What?
RE: Shotgun: Agreed. That's what I think our Blaster Kill is meant for, but when MoI hijacks them it doesnt matter.
RE: Iece: I don't get the case on Iec, can you expand?
RE: Nexus: What makes him a better lynch than Shotgun? At this posting rate, I'd say it'd be better to lynch Shotgun, and balster Nexus unless content levels change. Why Blaster Shtogun and not Nexus? Just curious as to your distinction between the two.
↑Shmugen wrote:I am unsure how to convince people to not blaster me.
This worries me. Quite a bit. It feels more like "don't kill me" than actually doing something useful like scumhunting.
Well of course that portion of my post doesn't feel like scumhunting. Scumhunting is a bit of a difficult game when you have as many lurkers as we do. My vote is on Nexus, I am pleased with the case against Nexus, and unless something drastic happens or we approach the deadline with no lynch, I don't foresee my moving my vote off of Nexus.
The problem is that any sort of "what do I have to do to seem town/not get blastered?" question is the same. Scumhunt and just play the game. Asking it is an unnecessary appeal to emotion and completely unuseful. It's just a "I need to live" comment, which, while town don't want to die, is much more inherent in scum play.
It's more useful to me than the town
, true, but I figure there's always the offchance that someone thinks I'm scum for some particular point and I could attempt to clear that up for them.
Hello there. What's this? What's more useful to you than it could be to the town? I'm pretty sure you've got your priorities mixed up here. Explain.
What changed from the "opportunistic scum" read that you had on me 5 pages ago? You made absolutely no comments and suddenly your read seems to be completely different.
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:57 am
by MagnaofIllusion
↑hasdgfas wrote:What changed from the "opportunistic scum" read that you had on me 5 pages ago? You made absolutely no comments and suddenly your read seems to be completely different.
I'll give you a hint ... it's because he actually doesn't have reads and is making it up since he's scum.