Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:05 am
yes they arehp [leaves wrote: post_id=4992437 time=1369857261 user_id=10128]Are normals even allowed to distinguish between kill methods?
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:06 am
you claimed YOU killed kuribohp [leaves wrote: post_id=4992443 time=1369857321 user_id=10128]Either way ac still killed Kuribo so that flavor still makes sense.
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:26 am
Woah woah dis claim. Gotta parse this one.
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:31 am
Yes I did. And he was shown as "killed" in the flip so I didn't overthink about the flavor. And it was you who said ac killed kuribo with hard evidence so now why are you ignoring your own evidence to attack me, von Karma?In post 976, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:you claimed YOU killed kuribohp [leaves wrote: post_id=4992443 time=1369857321 user_id=10128]Either way ac still killed Kuribo so that flavor still makes sense.
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:32 am
hp [leaves wrote: post_id=4991436 time=1369824058 user_id=10128]Or not. Double kill =/
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:38 am
hp [leaves wrote: post_id=4991430 time=1369823047 user_id=10128]Hey guys guess who I roleblocked last night.
VOTE: Scott Brosius
HP, the one thing that doesn't make sense about this claim is the 2nd statement.hp [leaves wrote: post_id=4991433 time=1369823891 user_id=10128]Also I shot Kuribo the first night so the Doctor should have two confirmed innocents by now.
I think the doctor assumption is fair at this stage in the game, however if you roleblocked Scott and are voting him on that basis, the doctor would clearly only have
one
save as opposed to two
.Explain sir.
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:42 am
Furthermore, if you're assuming the existence of a doctor, voting someone solely on the basis of a Roleblock claim makes very little sense. It doesn't confirm Scott as scum since it's entirely possible that a doctor/JK/whatever prevented the second shot.
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:47 am
The problem was more that you ignored literally everything else about the wagon. You didn't comment one bit on the analysis, and went "psssh too fast" before moving onto other targets. That reaction didnt' seem very natural.In post 944, Cheery Pie wrote:1) Righto, well you would be suspicious of my reaction since it didn't coincide with your own. I see nothing wrong with reacting to the speed of a wagon and being worried by it.In post 929, hapahauli wrote:@ Cheery
The crux of my suspicions against you are two things right now:
1) Your reaction to the initial ac1983fan wagon.
2) Your suspicion on Varsoon.
Sure scum2) I still feel there's plenty to be suspicious about. You don't agree? Fine. Besides I've (pieceofpecanpie) been voted early game by ac1983 before when we were scum just, you know, putting it out there that scumcanvote each other. I could turn that "your [..] suspicions seem really forced" line back on you in regards to me. Since you first started raising your "scum, scum" voice at me it's felt like you've just been filling in the blanks as to why I am scum. Reads like confirmation bias.
can
bus teammates and vote teammates. However you ignore the specific circumstances of AC's vote on Varsoon. If you truly look at his suspicions on Varsoon and the timing of them, I have a hard time believing you could reach any conclusion except for that Varsoon is town. Consider the following:
1) AC made a *huge* push on Varsoon the second Varsoon's wagon kicked off.
2) AC explicitly stated that he was voting Varsoon NOT because he thought Varsoon was scum, but because he thought Varsoon was "anti-town." Scum simply don't bus each other in this manner.
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:51 am
I look at it like thishp [leaves wrote: post_id=4992554 time=1369859488 user_id=10128]Yes I did. And he was shown as "killed" in the flip so I didn't overthink about the flavor. And it was you who said ac killed kuribo with hard evidence so now why are you ignoring your own evidence to attack me, von Karma?In post 976, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:you claimed YOU killed kuribohp [leaves wrote: post_id=4992443 time=1369857321 user_id=10128]Either way ac still killed Kuribo so that flavor still makes sense.
1. you didn't really kill him and for some reason you are lying
2. you both tried to kill him and your logic about the doctor having 1 clear is obviously false cause I KNOW for a fact AC visited Kuribo and he was just a goon
Also, having just read the game from varsoon, the lack of kill last night doesn't actually clear you nor does it confirm SB as scum, cause this could easily be a scum gambit. Both of you are Null because of your claim.
Additionally your claim makes NO SENSE at all nor does your order of actions or your targets so if anything, your claim actually makes you look worse and I'd rather get your flip before Scott's
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:52 am
In post 969, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:Are you a hydra?
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:59 am
Well, I'm a one shot knifesmith. I can check if someone has a knife or not. Doctors have knives. Mafia seems to kill with knives. So since my ability wasn't named "Cop", I assumed both of those roles to be in the game.In post 980, hapahauli wrote:hp [leaves wrote: post_id=4991430 time=1369823047 user_id=10128]Hey guys guess who I roleblocked last night.
VOTE: Scott BrosiusHP, the one thing that doesn't make sense about this claim is the 2nd statement.hp [leaves wrote: post_id=4991433 time=1369823891 user_id=10128]Also I shot Kuribo the first night so the Doctor should have two confirmed innocents by now.
I think the doctor assumption is fair at this stage in the game, however if you roleblocked Scott and are voting him on that basis, the doctor would clearly only haveonesave as opposed totwo.
Explain sir.
N1 kill was a double kill.
And I really screwed up on the assumed innocents part. I can't into logic.
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:00 am
I'm not a hydra.
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:02 am
So the situation is, either SB is scum and doctor has no innocents or SB is town and the doctor has one confirmed innocent.
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:02 am
Fail logic is a possible explanation but it isn't very convincing. Also, this:
Furthermore, if you're assuming the existence of a doctor, voting someone solely on the basis of a Roleblock claim makes very little sense. It doesn't confirm Scott as scum since it's entirely possible that a doctor/JK/whatever prevented the second shot.
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:02 am
My money is on SB-scum
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:07 am
Okay yes, but why? As SB stated before, the only time you've mentioned SB in your filter is once (and calling him town at that). If the doctor saving someone is a possibility, why would your roleblock on him 180 that read? There's no justification in your filter
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:17 am
1st, I wasn't here for the majority of the second day (because of the speedlynch, even though it was justified) so I didn't have time to comment at all
2nd, I do not breadcrumb my targets. Predictable actions=bad
Last day, SB's play consisted entirely of pushing Toomai's lynch while opposing ac's. Then he jumped on the ac bandwagon when he saw the lynch was inevitable. That's scum play.
And lynching SB is really a win-win situation. If he's scum, then cool. If he's town, we're going to have a confirmed townie.
2nd, I do not breadcrumb my targets. Predictable actions=bad
Last day, SB's play consisted entirely of pushing Toomai's lynch while opposing ac's. Then he jumped on the ac bandwagon when he saw the lynch was inevitable. That's scum play.
And lynching SB is really a win-win situation. If he's scum, then cool. If he's town, we're going to have a confirmed townie.
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:26 am
Why do you assume we have a doctor?hp [leaves wrote: post_id=4992641 time=1369861332 user_id=10128]So the situation is, either SB is scum and doctor has no innocents or SB is town and the doctor has one confirmed innocent.
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:28 am
^This is very unlikely, given the lack of dead people.In post 959, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:Dashie actually thinks scum/SK hp has inadvertently caught scum/SK SB
Mass claim is happening today. So toomai goes next and popcorns.
Hp's claim makes me want to cry, I didn't know such roles existed. It's quite elaborate for a bluff, which makes me want to believe him.
Do you guys want me to claim, or should CP do it first?
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:31 am
knifesmithIn post 992, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:Why do you assume we have a doctor?hp [leaves wrote: post_id=4992641 time=1369861332 user_id=10128]So the situation is, either SB is scum and doctor has no innocents or SB is town and the doctor has one confirmed innocent.
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:33 am
I'm inclined to believe HP's claim.
UNVOTE: Cheery Pie
VOTE: Scott Brosius
I'll explain why when I get back from lunch.
UNVOTE: Cheery Pie
VOTE: Scott Brosius
I'll explain why when I get back from lunch.
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:35 am
Jake, fine. Let's assume there isn't a doctor.
then sb is confirmed scum
then sb is confirmed scum
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:38 am
Explain?hp [leaves wrote: post_id=4992732 time=1369863104 user_id=10128]knifesmithIn post 992, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:Why do you assume we have a doctor?hp [leaves wrote: post_id=4992641 time=1369861332 user_id=10128]So the situation is, either SB is scum and doctor has no innocents or SB is town and the doctor has one confirmed innocent.
Plus I've never actually heard of a knifesmith now that I think about it and its not on the wiki that I can find.
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:39 am
Jake, HP already kind of explained it. Apparently doctors have knifes.
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:44 am
In post 997, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:Plus I've never actually heard of a knifesmith now that I think about it and its not on the wiki that I can find.
In post 968, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:I'm leaning SK given theknifesmith/BP SKs usually are 1 shot immune (minewas inmy game)
