Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:37 am
VOTE: AFB
Sangres can wait for a while
Sangres can wait for a while
sureIn post 968, MVP wrote:But that's for one of his reason for scumreadingIn post 949, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Pedit: no. in the bauss quote i gave he says that replacing out day 1 in a scumtell.AFB, not Rank. There's a difference.
LTB clearly said that Rank's rep out d1 is scummy because Town-Rank loves d1 and he wouldn't rep out D1 if he was town.
As reaching as it sounds, his logic is based on his meta on him, regardless of his willingness to prove it or not. However, what MCM did there was that he butchered down his logic to make it sounds like his logic is based on some stupid overgeneralized theory.
i really hope you don't breed.In post 972, Sakura Hana wrote:Ok so why should be considering policy lynching RC when you've supposedly caught scum?
I saw other behaviors in that game that I knew supported calling you town and my strategy was kind of built on two pillars - playing up paranoia about Cabd and justifiably defending you from people who were going to call your AtE scummy.In post 976, Sakura Hana wrote:So you knew my alignment the other game, what info does that give you about this one.
It's called questioning whether your actions match your words. But thanks for confirming that they dont since you didnt answer the question and proceeded to discredit me by saying im desperate for discrediting you.In post 978, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:by your desperation on discrediting me i assume that i am not, however, wrong this time.
nullIn post 936, sangres wrote:What do you think about it?
If you think it's null, why did you point it up?
Half the time, my reads on that game were faked to fool scum. Do you rather me fake my reads here or give you no reads.In post 979, sangres wrote:Knowing what your reads are, and knowing where they come from do help me figure you out, though, and I miss that data.
It would be a problem if that was the only reason he's scumreading him for.In post 977, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:sureIn post 968, MVP wrote:But that's for one of his reason for scumreadingIn post 949, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Pedit: no. in the bauss quote i gave he says that replacing out day 1 in a scumtell.AFB, not Rank. There's a difference.
LTB clearly said that Rank's rep out d1 is scummy because Town-Rank loves d1 and he wouldn't rep out D1 if he was town.
As reaching as it sounds, his logic is based on his meta on him, regardless of his willingness to prove it or not. However, what MCM did there was that he butchered down his logic to make it sounds like his logic is based on some stupid overgeneralized theory.
but what do you think about his stupid overgeneralized theory that he's using on his scumread stronger than me
I'd rather you put enough of yourself and your thoughts into your posts that I can read you. That's part of your job if you're town.In post 983, Sakura Hana wrote:Half the time, my reads on that game were faked to fool scum. Do you rather me fake my reads here or give you no reads.In post 979, sangres wrote:Knowing what your reads are, and knowing where they come from do help me figure you out, though, and I miss that data.
Just want to touch on this briefly. I don't use Meta as "proof" like lots of players here do. Meta, at its very core, can be willfully manipulated by an experienced player that is cognizant of his/her play or meta. There is no "proof" in meta when up against a skillful player... only clues and hints. But yes, you're right. My scum read on Rank is essentially meta based.In post 968, MVP wrote:But that's for one of his reason for scumreadingIn post 949, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Pedit: no. in the bauss quote i gave he says that replacing out day 1 in a scumtell.AFB, not Rank. There's a difference.
LTB clearly said that Rank's rep out d1 is scummy because Town-Rank loves d1 and he wouldn't rep out D1 if he was town.
As reaching as it sounds, his logic is based on his meta on him, regardless of his willingness to prove it or not. However, what MCM did there was that he butchered down his logic to make it sounds like his logic is based on some stupid overgeneralized theory.
To see what orci's opinion about it, of course.
I've done so in so far with my back and forth with orc. If that's not enough then I can't help you there for the time being.In post 985, sangres wrote:I'd rather you put enough of yourself and your thoughts into your posts that I can read you. That's part of your job if you're town.
And yet you're bitching because I had you as null prior to that. If this is how you're choosing to play the game right now, then you have both the benefits and the drawbacks to deal with. And so do other players.In post 988, Sakura Hana wrote:I've done so in so far with my back and forth with orc. If that's not enough then I can't help you there for the time being.In post 985, sangres wrote:I'd rather you put enough of yourself and your thoughts into your posts that I can read you. That's part of your job if you're town.
And i will.In post 989, sangres wrote:If this is how you're choosing to play the game right now, then you have both the benefits and the drawbacks to deal with.
1. Not sure if that was meant to be a joke, but was that discredit necessary?In post 637, sangres wrote:Town
1. Likeabaws - yeah, town. Don't trust his reads because Newbie 1389.
Doctor Jekyll - This looks like town Ceph to me.
Toomai - I like his stances so far. I meta'd the hell out of him for the Harry Potter game, and although I smudged the meta results for that game, I think I came away with a pretty fair appreciation for his town game. One thing of note: in the scum game that he replaced into, iirc his stances came off a little more certain as scum, and his reaction to pressure was different as well. Not that he's had pressure to react to in this game so far.
Leaning Town
TheIrishPope - I don't read TiP well, and tend to default to reading him as scum. But, last we talked Nacho was thinking town. And some of my leantowns are thinking town as well.
2. MVP - I know the identity of one head of this hydra. Playing solo he tends to tunnel the fuck out of his scum reads. The fact that this isn't happening me bothers me a little, but I saw something similar in another purportedly 3-headed hydra of his so I'm leaning cautiously town.
Angry Frat BROs - I think AP trying to sort me is a good sign, though I feel pretty cautious. In prior scum games, he's either townread me (until a scum read suited his purposes) or immediately gone for the throat on my slot (after I replaced out, but still that was MY slot and I was srsly town).
3. MC Maraca - probably going to let Nacho call this one. I think his meta thumbnail for MVP was reasonably accurate, but I don't like that he's calling us town on the basis of my play. He has said more than once that despite all the experiential meta I'm not that easy for him to read.
Null
Caledfwitch - based on a recent game we played (where I helped mislynch her) and the meta-dive I did in that game, although she's a lurkfuck as town, she takes strong stands on players she thinks are scum. I'm not seeing that in this game so far. I've waffled about scumpiling her.
Hermy - Was leaning town based on her reaction to being judged on the basis of one bad error in one game. Read went stale.
Sakura Hana - her game feels a little off, especially compared to Newbie 1436.
Yessirree - I like some of what I'm seeing, and I'm a little worried I'm letting others' negative reads affect my impression here. Looking at you, MC Maraca. I"m still waiting for your meta analysis.
PeregrineV - Play the damn game.
Orcinus - I don't like that he entered the game basically in RVS mode, but his entrance posts were pretty late-night. I had no useful read on Rank.
4. Scum
Guyett - Based on one game I've played where he was town and I was scum, I'd lean town. But, I'm kinda impressed by the way people are talking his town game up, and I think the one game may not have been all that representative. I was on the scum team, and he made it to lylo for a reason. BoP sucks.
4. Radiant Cowbells - If I had a fucking clue what your play is supposed to accomplish I would probably consider moving you to the leaning town pile.
JacobSavage - ISO is crap, and no effort to engage Nacho about his read.
In post 980, Sakura Hana wrote:It's called questioning whether your actions match your words. But thanks for confirming that they dont since you didnt answer the question and proceeded to discredit me by saying im desperate for discrediting you.In post 978, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:by your desperation on discrediting me i assume that i am not, however, wrong this time.
how the fuck did i not answer your questionorcinus_theoriginal wrote:i really hope you don't breed.In post 972, Sakura Hana wrote:Ok so why should be considering policy lynching RC when you've supposedly caught scum?
because i and everyone else can always be wrong about our reads and because some people have disagreed with my read on you
by your desperation on discrediting me i assume that i am not, however, wrong this time.
i am fairly convinced, yes.In post 994, Sakura Hana wrote:You don't seem to be considering you being wrong about your reads tho, you seem fairly convinced.
I on the other hand didnt realize that was the answer to the question so I apologize for that.
In post 909, MVP wrote:Do you want us to sync first or do you want my own?