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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:10 pm
by Andrius



Iecerint wrote:@ Andy
Iecerint wrote:My flavor name is more flavorful than something like "Food Tracker," which informs my not thinking it is very likely to be the flavor name.

Since this apparently never occurred to you, I'm going to infer that your flavor obviates this as a concern.

My role/flavor has no ambiguity, and ties in well with what Shadow Dancer has been writing.

There's no 'Tracker of Food' potential with my role. Is that what you were looking for?

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:11 pm
by Albert B. Rampage
Andrius, do you have Food in your role flavor? Yes or no.

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:13 pm
by Nachomamma8
Is that the problem?

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:15 pm
by Albert B. Rampage
The sample PMs don't have any mention of "Food" in the names, only the two flipped VTs. Food Tracker doesn't seem congruent.

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:17 pm
by Nachomamma8
The other two roles also weren't town aligned.

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:18 pm
by Albert B. Rampage
I checked again. Strawberry Food.

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:20 pm
by Albert B. Rampage
Nachomamma8 wrote:The other two roles also weren't town aligned.


Ah, right. Anyway, waiting on Andrius.

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:21 pm
by Albert B. Rampage
I thought that the blue sample PMs were what PR role pms would look like.

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:21 pm
by Andrius
Yes.
The sample PMs should be taken with salt - the notion of 'Strawberry Food' is misleading and can cause misconceptions. I, for one, was confused and thought Food meant food as in foodstuff, not Food with a capital letter denoting us humans.

Food Tracker is the problem since we are not sure if Food modifies the role itself or modifies who it Tracks. We would have that problem with say, Food Cop - do they investigate Food or are they a Food-aligned Cop.

I think we might be looking into it too much.

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:23 pm
by Andrius
ABR, don't you have your own role to refer to?
I'm more than happy to share, but you went straight to the Sample PMs first.

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:24 pm
by Iecerint
Andrius wrote:
Iecerint wrote:@ Andy
Iecerint wrote:My flavor name is more flavorful than something like "Food Tracker," which informs my not thinking it is very likely to be the flavor name.

Since this apparently never occurred to you, I'm going to infer that your flavor obviates this as a concern.

My role/flavor has no ambiguity, and ties in well with what Shadow Dancer has been writing.

There's no 'Tracker of Food' potential with my role. Is that what you were looking for?

My flavor name does not allude to a "classic" role ala "Tracker" "Doctor" or "Cop." For example, I am not a "Food Tracker" or a "Food Doctor" or a "Food Cop" or something similar to that structurally. Despite this, my role's function is equivalent to a "classic" role.

Therefore, I was surprised to see "Food Tracker" be the claim, as its structure is Food + [classic role name].

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:26 pm
by Albert B. Rampage
Andrius wrote:Yes.
The sample PMs should be taken with salt - the notion of 'Strawberry Food' is misleading and can cause misconceptions. I, for one, was confused and thought Food meant food as in foodstuff, not Food with a capital letter denoting us humans.

Food Tracker is the problem since we are not sure if Food modifies the role itself or modifies who it Tracks. We would have that problem with say, Food Cop - do they investigate Food or are they a Food-aligned Cop.

I think we might be looking into it too much.


We might be looking at a mod provided fakeclaim, but it didn't look that way with the Tracker of Food claim, more likely something made up on the spot or even the actual werewolf role PM.

Andrius wrote:ABR, don't you have your own role to refer to?
I'm more than happy to share, but you went straight to the Sample PMs first.


I know what my role is and have kept it in mind. I expected a tracker role name to look more like the cat or the mod one.

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:28 pm
by Albert B. Rampage
Iecerint wrote:Therefore, I was surprised to see "Food Tracker" be the claim, as its structure is Food + [classic role name].


So your role name is more along the lines of the two sample pms below Strawberry Food, right?

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:28 pm
by Andrius
We may be overthinking this. There is no 'Vanilla Townie' sample role PM to work with. It would make sense that scum would have to default to that, but even non-VT town would have to refer to the OP for the VT PM.




predit: Mine is not 'Classic' either. Aligning with flavor takes precedence. In any case, it will be clear upon my death what I've been up to.

predit2: Of course. Tracker of Food is the wrench that started all of this.
Fair enough. I wasn't necessarily suspecting you for that, just something I thought of.

predit3: NINJAS.

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:30 pm
by Andrius
ABR, don't get too carried away with them. The third one is the closest one that plays to the true meaning/spirit of the game (Food are humans that are being eaten, thus Strawberry Food makes little sense).

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:39 pm
by Nachomamma8
Farside:

My two other scumreads are Victor and Who, hence asking Southern Gothic about them.

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:40 pm
by farside22
farside22 wrote:Nacho: can you tell me who else your scum reading?
I had Andy, victor and titus at one point.
I'll expand further after.

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:40 pm
by Nachomamma8
ABR has become an extremely powerful townread over the course of this day, and I definitely need to hear from Peregrine again although my initial response to his defense was definitely town.

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:41 pm
by Nachomamma8
farside22 wrote:
farside22 wrote:Nacho: can you tell me who else your scum reading?
I had Andy, victor and titus at one point.
I'll expand further after.

Sorry! I wanted to see if I could force scum to interact with buddies a little bit and wasn't quite ready to make it obvious I was doing so.

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:42 pm
by farside22
Nachomamma8 wrote:Farside:

My two other scumreads are Victor and Who, hence asking Southern Gothic about them.



Sorry you just beat me as I was reading along.

Okay so I'm only a bit confused because what Andy and iec said.
Food is town from what I understand.
The issue I note with the claim is tracker. Not food part.
I also don't know why Mollie tracked pine.

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:45 pm
by farside22
Andrius wrote:We may be overthinking this. There is no 'Vanilla Townie' sample role PM to work with. It would make sense that scum would have to default to that, but even non-VT town would have to refer to the OP for the VT PM.




predit: Mine is not 'Classic' either. Aligning with flavor takes precedence. In any case, it will be clear upon my death what I've been up to.

predit2: Of course. Tracker of Food is the wrench that started all of this.
Fair enough. I wasn't necessarily suspecting you for that, just something I thought of.

predit3: NINJAS.



Mine falls under this category as well.

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:47 pm
by Andrius
Nachomamma8 wrote:ABR has become an extremely powerful townread over the course of this day, and I definitely need to hear from Peregrine again although my initial response to his defense was definitely town.

Minus the one hiccup, this is my reaction.
I think I'm voting him.
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:47 pm
by Nachomamma8
farside22 wrote:Food is town from what I understand.
The issue I note with the claim is tracker. Not food part.

The reason I took issue with the food part is because I asked mollie to flavor claim under duress and she answered that her flavor was "food", which is just the name of the towngroup this game and not something I'd expect from someone who loves flavor as much as Shadow does.

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:49 pm
by Nachomamma8
I also hoped he didn't give flavor with action role PMs?
But Iec hasn't said that he didn't get action flavor so no luck there.

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:49 pm
by Nachomamma8
Do you still suspect Andy today?