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Did you seriously just ignore the first part of my post? Also, I never had a chance to post between lufan's later posts and the lynch. This is exactly why I have trouble seeing you as town.

I will not justify wanting to policy lynch lufan, if it is not obvious to you, then you don't understand what a policy lynch is. Also, I wasn't the only one pushing for a policy lynch yesterday.

↑ Mikazuki wrote:

↑ White Narcissus wrote:Also i was thinking that mass flavor claim wouldn't be a bad idea at this point, but i wanna know everyone else's opinion on it.
~Sakura

Will get back to your other question in a bit.

What do you think we can get out of claiming flavours? Or would you rather not say? I guess it could work since there's quite a limited number of characters that can be claimed.

Still waiting on an answer to this, if you would be so kind.

what's a policy lynch?

↑ Ankamius wrote:I'm not convinced on mass claiming flavor. I don't see what kind of information it will give to the overall picture.

Well for one, odds are one of the is scum, odds are is after Mayu flipped.

That first flip assures us that scum won't have fakeclaims, sans maybe Sachiko.

Also, I need a few to think.

pedit-

Also nacho's going to kill me either way but this does revolve a bit around that aspect of flavor however not in the way you expect

What's with everyone's cryptic secret stuff with nacho?

Tbf I didn't expect nacho to claim naomi so I'm trying to sort this out in my head.

↑ Mikazuki wrote:

Did you seriously just ignore the first part of my post? Also, I never had a chance to post between lufan's later posts and the lynch. This is exactly why I have trouble seeing you as town.

I will not justify wanting to policy lynch lufan, if it is not obvious to you, then you don't understand what a policy lynch is. Also, I wasn't the only one pushing for a policy lynch yesterday.

You agree the PT point was a scumslip. That doesn't exactly allow much room for confusion.
You keep waffling on your read on the slot regardless.
You specifically say that the main reason is for policy lynching.

There's dissonance here and it reeks.

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I know you wanted to policy lynch lufan; you've stated this many times. If the reasoning is that obvious, then you shouldn't have any problems quoting exactly where it should be obvious.

↑ notscience wrote:

↑ Ankamius wrote:I'm not convinced on mass claiming flavor. I don't see what kind of information it will give to the overall picture.

Well for one, odds are one of the

surviving 5

is scum, odds are

none of those who died

is after Mayu flipped.

This is plausible, but does it really add enough info to the game to be worth digging into right now? You claim to have character associations, so do you think scum are unlikely to have something similar?

Ank, Mika: The problem here is you define policy lynch differently. Mika, explain to him what you mean by policy so this can end.

~Wis

I don't know what your problem with me is but I clearly already said why I did not outright say my read on Day 1, which you have ignored again. If you can't figure it out by now, then I guess I must be completely illiterate.

You are just about the only one who doesn't find it obvious, that's your problem, not mine. Go check the wiki for a definition, that might help you out.

↑ White Narcissus wrote:Ank, Mika: The problem here is you define policy lynch differently. Mika, explain to him what you mean by policy so this can end.

~Wis

Nah I really don't think that will work considering how stubborn he's shown himself to be. My definition is the one in the wiki, what about you Anka?

LADIES

LADIES

STOP FIGHTING

I have enough time for the both of you

↑ Mikazuki wrote:

↑ White Narcissus wrote:Ank, Mika: The problem here is you define policy lynch differently. Mika, explain to him what you mean by policy so this can end.

~Wis

Nah I really don't think that will work considering how stubborn he's shown himself to be. My definition is the one in the wiki, what about you Anka?

so you lynched lufan specifically because of bad play?

↑ White Narcissus wrote:

↑ Shadowcat wrote:Interactions D1 felt weird, awkward and forced. Like scum trying to hide a secret. Also asking notscience what his darkness level felt off too.

This is too shallow. Zelink does not hide the fact he's being cryptic for his own reasons, so scumreading him for that feels fake.

What's wrong about asking for darkness levels?

~Wis

There was a point in the discussion about the scum team flavor and I saw something that looked like really awkward, that looked like he had the role/flavor character in question.

I just didn't like it. From reading what Pie said looks like scum could potentially look like they can raise more than one person in a night so I took his question like scum going why the fuck weren't you killed type thing.

But Wisdom you need to take a step back. You're always doubting me and this needs to crease and desist. You can't read town-me worth of shit, but you always seem like you can, but you can't.

↑ White Narcissus wrote:

url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6734219#p6734219]post 963[/url], Shadowcat wrote:They feel like their playing to their scum meta.

Waiting for elaboration on this. I want specific posts and why they indicate scum Nacho over town Nacho.

~Wis

His pushes. He ignored the slip of whoever we lynched D1 and tried pushing us instead. That's scum-nacho right there along with other things

~M

Huntress has her own reasons for scum reading people. So she'll appear in thread today and elaborate more

Not exactly, I was waiting for him to post again before I decided what to definitely read him as since I had a problem with the PT post, but I did initially pvote him as a possible PL because of the deadline. I didn't think you guys would get a lynch before I woke up and got a chance to post again

this support is now ready to vote.

Well then go ahead, get the wagon rolling.

nachobro why did you key in on my comment about being immune to darkness? It was me fucking around but you guys made a huge fucking deal about it, which doesn't make any sense considering your claim.

↑ Mikazuki wrote:My definition is the one in the wiki

Wiki wrote:Most commonly, it describes the lynch of a player

who is not found to be particularly scummy

,

Ummm

↑ Mikazuki wrote:I agree with the newbie player thing, that was why I was so reluctant to say I was scum reading him despite being quite convinced that the PT thing was exactly what it looked like.

As for the reasoning being bad, the PT thing was enough to make me think that he was likely to flip scum

. I mentioned before that he actually said that he was 'sent' there (which everyone ignored) which didn't make sense as a bad word choice, it was an outright slip.

Ummm
~Sakura

Maybe im just seeing things im hoping Wisdom can clarify to me about his read on you, because atm i have a lot of scumreads.
~Sakura

theres a difference between being scummy and having a high chance of flipping scum sakura

↑ notscience wrote:nachobro why did you key in on my comment about being immune to darkness? It was me fucking around but you guys made a huge fucking deal about it, which doesn't make any sense considering your claim.

immune doubt it. maybe they are affected less by darkness, but i doubt immune.

~M

Okay maybe I was wrong about the wiki def. The not particularly scummy part is not important, the important part to me is the being detrimental to the game later on part, which is what justifies a PL to me in the first place. I will post my revised definition if you like, but I hope that won't be necessary.

It should be noted that this is only an issue because I did not have time to post before the lynch.

If they are naomi they are in no way immune.

The one roles I think make sense for Naomi are-

Town- If she hits 100% darkening, Seiko dies and her darkening goes down to a certain level

Scum- Darkening overwhelms her, allowing scum to kill people.

pedit-

Sakura mikazuki reminds me of alina