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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:34 am
by Frogging Mollie
ika wrote:
elusive wrote:1)ika, you can't argue that flavor means nothing and then try to argue that flavor means something. And in the end Kuro sacrifices herself to help save the day so if that's the case then MS and pie are town based on flavor.

2)I'm having a little trouble with the VT part of the claims due to reasons.

3)I'm also really annoyed at ika outing the flavor of pie at least and also hiding the fact that he was in the neighbor and that there was a reason for MS to be friendly towards him.

pie has been pretty convincing so far, I like being able to follow her reasoning and logic.

I don't like Mollie's game here, I'm not sure what the alignment is, but she has no other scum reads it seems other then MS and pie for defending him which seems very narrow. Then after reading the ETL game, her tunneling or yelling scum at town is a thing.


1) i wasnt i was jsut showing how if we did it would be more likely that our antagonaist would be scum
2) so your hinting to be vt too? nice
3) news flash i was giving full incentive that there was a damn neghborhood, i really dont care atm you skeeved at me, i wanted MS gone form our neighborood the moment he spammed it.

as for the rest, i have no words and jsut not even going to respond.

just go ahread and vote mollie


its okay. I hated being scummates with metal too I even made a stink about it in the scummies award ceremony thread.

we will still flip town!

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:35 am
by elusive
Kuro is the main antagonist but at the end of the game Kuro sacrifices itself to save the forest. So its a spoiler and plot twist.

However, again I'm having difficulty with the flavor is not equal to alignment argument. The sample role PM that Anakamius put up flavor does equal alignment but the game rules state the opposite. In either case, how does that info mean anything? A mod cannot lie that flavor is not equal to alignment.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:37 am
by Grib
Hey dragon.

Also wow the last two pages have been fun.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:38 am
by Frogging Mollie
elusive wrote:thanks ika, for outing roles and helping scum narrow the nk pile. good work.


go to the cave sister and then spot the difference between the shadows that you see and what actually takes form.

metal fucked his team over in a big way. like huge.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:39 am
by elusive
Grib, I need your help please.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:42 am
by Frogging Mollie
Frogging Mollie wrote:Well. This game is a shit show. So much for trying to have a nice fun game on this site. Three out of my four games have turned into absolute crap. Not a good intro to this site. I'd still like to play, but it's really up to Mollie, not myself if she wants to replace out. I don't mind flying solo, I'm picking up on things pretty fast.

Not Mollie's fault either. She's been a great teacher/hydra, and I've learned tons from her <3

I'll try to reply more tonight. I'm in an all day work meeting.


sorry froggy :(

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:42 am
by Grib
Lemme hear it.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:45 am
by ika
is that you molle?

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:48 am
by Frogging Mollie
ika wrote:
Bookitty wrote:-BIG HUGS- to Ika :)

Course you can :)


*hugs back*

ty

im gonna call on a freind of mine to take singers place. i need people who i can legit work with and keep me in check now that mollies gone


I am not gone?

I said I was going to go and that it depended on froggy. I was wondering if he was okay getting mislynched.

I did not start this shit show and I am srsly fucking
TIRED
for being held responsible for what other players do.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:49 am
by elusive
Grib,

What do you think? What do you see?

ika's been anti-town as hell and outed roles without any reason to do so. Mollie resorts to weird metaphors about the allegory of the cave which if you've done Intro to Philo that's the first and easiest thing they go over so idk, try something deeper.

I'm thinking that neighborhoods on this site can indeed be a mixture of town and scum. Usually the town person tries to get the neighbor's role info and then confirm through thread\actions. So its possible that one or two of the hood are scum.

This 1 vs 1 kind of took the spotlight off some people like ZZZx who's posts I didn't like.

Since I'm annoyed by the whole MS Vs. Mollie thing, I'll just sheep your thoughts on how to get moving forward.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:51 am
by ika
Frogging Mollie wrote:
ika wrote:
Bookitty wrote:-BIG HUGS- to Ika :)

Course you can :)


*hugs back*

ty

im gonna call on a freind of mine to take singers place. i need people who i can legit work with and keep me in check now that mollies gone


I am not gone?

I said I was going to go and that it depended on froggy. I was wondering if he was okay getting mislynched.

I did not start this shit show and I am srsly fucking
TIRED
for being held responsible for what other players do.


mollie i was summoning tere, someone that you know very well and work well with. i dont summon jsut "anybody" i summon people that know how i work and would be major helps.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:52 am
by ika
mollie i have work soon but can you be here in about 9-10 hrs.

i just need someone that i can talk to at this point and your lack of precence is what hindges me a lot

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:57 am
by Frogging Mollie
ika wrote:mollie i have work soon but can you be here in about 9-10 hrs.

i just need someone that i can talk to at this point and your lack of precence is what hindges me a lot


I have been present all game.

I wld very much like for you and pie and metal to answer how a protagonist and an antagonist exists in your hood and none of you thought to mention it before now when metal was claiming the protagonist and kept saying he was conftown just by his flavour role being in the game when....there is the antagonist in your hood and somehow that makes him town.

like really.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 8:00 am
by ika
Frogging Mollie wrote:
ika wrote:mollie i have work soon but can you be here in about 9-10 hrs.

i just need someone that i can talk to at this point and your lack of precence is what hindges me a lot


I have been present all game.

I wld very much like for you and pie and metal to answer how a protagonist and an antagonist exists in your hood and none of you thought to mention it before now when metal was claiming the protagonist and kept saying he was conftown just by his flavour role being in the game when....there is the antagonist in your hood and somehow that makes him town.

like really.


cus based on how the hood went in pre-game i took pie being a pr and being very calculated.

but more on point: i ignore flavors entirely and find that they have nothing and took it for a grain fo salt and had no indication to persue a mechanic based thing that really has no bearings on the game itself

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 8:00 am
by Grib
elusive wrote:Grib,

What do you think? What do you see?

ika's been anti-town as hell and outed roles without any reason to do so. Mollie resorts to weird metaphors about the allegory of the cave which if you've done Intro to Philo that's the first and easiest thing they go over so idk, try something deeper.

I'm thinking that neighborhoods on this site can indeed be a mixture of town and scum. Usually the town person tries to get the neighbor's role info and then confirm through thread\actions. So its possible that one or two of the hood are scum.

This 1 vs 1 kind of took the spotlight off some people like ZZZx who's posts I didn't like.

Since I'm annoyed by the whole MS Vs. Mollie thing, I'll just sheep your thoughts on how to get moving forward.


My issue is that I thought Metal Sonic has been town all game, that his claim was pretty towny,
and
I'm townreading everyone in the Neighborhood.

Yeah, ika's been antitown, but not in a way that makes me want to lynch him. If someone in the Neighborhood was a PR, okay, I'd maybe be a bit more skeptical. But. Yeah. This still feels strongly like his townplay.

Um. Neighborhoods. They're kind of annoying, because there's a bunch of wine w/r/t whether or not there's one scum or if they're all town (I doubt there's 2+ scum because that'd just be scumchat). For the moment, I'm okay with slotting the Neighbors as all townies.

The 1v1 has been super annoying and it really needs to get resolved because we're just going to go through this whole song and dance again until one of them dies.

fake edit: And then yeah, there's Sonic cherrypicking flavor. Bluh.

Of the three, I'd lynch Sonic, because that at least resolves the issue.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 8:02 am
by Frogging Mollie
Frogging Mollie wrote:sorry froggy :(

Not your fault!

Frogging Mollie wrote:I am not gone?

I said I was going to go and that it depended on froggy. I was wondering if he was okay getting mislynched.

I did not start this shit show and I am srsly fucking
TIRED
for being held responsible for what other players do.

If you want out, I will still play as us. No worries. Do not feel like you have to stay in if this is driving you crazy. I don't mind.

If you are going to stay in and we get somehow voted up to L-1/claiming/whatever, then everyone should absolutely let both you and ME have final words before a lynch. If they don't, they are fucking scum. I have some important things to say if it comes to that point to help town, as I'm sure you do.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 8:03 am
by Grib
Actually, all ika did was out the flavor, and since flavor isn't alignment indicative it's not that antitown.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 8:06 am
by Frogging Mollie
ika wrote:
Frogging Mollie wrote:
ika wrote:mollie i have work soon but can you be here in about 9-10 hrs.

i just need someone that i can talk to at this point and your lack of precence is what hindges me a lot


I have been present all game.

I wld very much like for you and pie and metal to answer how a protagonist and an antagonist exists in your hood and none of you thought to mention it before now when metal was claiming the protagonist and kept saying he was conftown just by his flavour role being in the game when....there is the antagonist in your hood and somehow that makes him town.

like really.


cus based on how the hood went in pre-game i took pie being a pr and being very calculated.

but more on point: i ignore flavors entirely and find that they have nothing and took it for a grain fo salt and had no indication to persue a mechanic based thing that really has no bearings on the game itself


why did you not mention this when metal tried to clear himself via role flavour?

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 8:08 am
by ika
ika wrote:
Ankamius wrote:4.5) All flavor is completely game-irrelevant.


^elusive, game names mean shit

(if if anyone is wondering yes this is near pissed off ika)


mollie i gave full indication that flavor is moot.

im working on town blocs and pushing outsiders

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 8:19 am
by Frogging Mollie
Frogging Mollie wrote:
Frogging Mollie wrote:sorry froggy :(

Not your fault!

Frogging Mollie wrote:I am not gone?

I said I was going to go and that it depended on froggy. I was wondering if he was okay getting mislynched.

I did not start this shit show and I am srsly fucking
TIRED
for being held responsible for what other players do.

If you want out, I will still play as us. No worries. Do not feel like you have to stay in if this is driving you crazy. I don't mind.

If you are going to stay in and we get somehow voted up to L-1/claiming/whatever, then everyone should absolutely let both you and ME have final words before a lynch. If they don't, they are fucking scum. I have some important things to say if it comes to that point to help town, as I'm sure you do.


I will try to hold the front while you have your say.

if you are OKAY with getting mislynched for shitty reasons when there is an OMG A GIANT FUCKING ELEPHANT OF THE ROOM THAT CONSISTS OF A HOOD WHERE THE PROTAGONIST AND ANTAGONIST FOR FLAVOUR EXISTS BUT FOR SOME STRANGE REASON WE ARE SUPPOSED TO IGNORE THAT DESPITE SOME1 IN THE HOOD BEING STRUNG UP AND WAS TRYING TO USE FLAVOUR CONTENT TO CLEAR HIMSELF I can be good with that too.

<3

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 8:22 am
by ika
mollie promise me you will be around in about 10 hrs? i want to talk

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 8:22 am
by ika
bye off to work

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:52 am
by Grib
Aren't hydras supposed to have a PT or something so they don't have to, y'know. Talk to themselves in the game thread.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 10:26 am
by dragonspawn
Just got my role pm. Haven't had a chance to look over the thread at all. Probably do that at some point in the next 24 hrs.
looking forward to a good game guys.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 10:40 am
by Grib
It's kind of a mess, so don't hold your breath.