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Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 10:44 am
by Davsto
In post 967, Lovebird wrote: In post 964, Davsto wrote:Lovebird (a weaker one here but a lot of posts and not a huge amount to any of them. Stuff like saying "hmm Chickadee could be scum going by her ISO", posting her entire ISO and.. not saying a word actually about it. Maybe it's playstyle so I'd have to have a little metadive but it's odd.)
It's not entire ISO, just posts I think show she's scummy.
Fair enough. But you still haven't explained any of them and it's not like they're the kind of quotes that go without explanation - sure the first and second are pretty bad I guess, and the third and fifth are a little dodgy, but I don't even get what you're saying is wrong with the fourth and last. It hardly needs an essay, just something there.
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 11:11 am
by BBmolla
Post
Final show today, will give effort this week
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 12:22 pm
by Chickadee
In post 974, the worst wrote: In post 973, Chickadee wrote:All of those quotes are taken out of context, and brought back with no context (commentary).
In post 952, Lovebird wrote:
In post 267, Chickadee wrote:Wow. A lot of kills while i slept. Can’t say I’m surprised.
Varsoon hasn’t slipped yet right? Varsoon if you around and still alive why would you have rather shot iconium?
Also slipped should be flipped here. I feel like that really changes the meaning. I didn't see it until just now.
How does this clarify your intention here? I read it as meaning flipped..
flipping and slipping mean two different things here. Like, both words hold significant meaning in a game of mafia. Even I had to read it twice and I thought to myself "Wait, what was I talking about?" So I have to wonder if Lovebird didn't just ISO me looking for dodgy things out of context.
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 12:32 pm
by xyzzy
randomidget has been prodded.
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 12:39 pm
by Archwing
@xyzzy
i'm really sorry. I can't keep up with >8 pages a day. please replace me. I dont' want my shot wasted.
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 5:03 pm
by Austerity
+++++
I really want someone else to shoot random. Odds are good that he'll only have one vest if he's scum.
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 5:06 pm
by the worst
I'm finding the lack of unique roles......disturbing
Starting to worry there might only be a couple of actual townies with the BP modifier?
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 5:08 pm
by Austerity
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 5:31 pm
by the worst
There are not many role modifiers. I am a townie with a certain number of BP shots which is making me worry there probably aren't many townies with BP/SM modifiers. :/
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 5:34 pm
by Austerity
Probably there aren't that many; they seem really powerful. (Another reason I think random is scum.)
I'd bet that any strongmans would be town though. And it's right for them to not out yet.
(I claim strongman)
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 5:35 pm
by the worst
Agreed, town strongmen gotta tread carefully.
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 5:40 pm
by Srceenplay
If strongman are x-shot they should be in a good position if they didn’t waste the d1
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 7:10 pm
by TheBrie
In post 919, Sando wrote:
Urgh, I'm NOT saying that the list should be private. I'm saying that the list should be public and settled on.
I'm ALSO saying that the list being public may create some unintended consequences that I haven't thought of, and that should mean the entire list idea should be scrapped.
I'm not advocating a private list, I'm saying a public list might not work, in which case NO LIST is best.
That makes complete sense. Forcing someone to forfeit or be shot might be a good tactic in some situations still. Not sure what they are though.
(Wrote this last night, forgot to finish, had a power outage.)
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 7:24 pm
by TheBrie
StefanB's shot list looks about the same as mine.
If I were scum with not_mafia, I would be careful to put him somewhere on my list, if only as a null. I know leaving people draws attention to them.
Does anyone want me to shoot Srceenplay? Or maybe Chickadee?
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 7:37 pm
by Iconeum
i've caught up now
I want people who are scumreading me to reconsider what I said, because I still stand by that:
Overexplaining your motivation in this particular game (where most signed up for memes and shizzle) is a scumtell. Especially early on in this game, there is literally no need for that, and only scum would want to cover up their 'misfire'. If a town was actually interested in discussion and information, they'd talk before shooting. Not while shooting.
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 7:38 pm
by TheBrie
On father thought, it might be better to shoot a scummy person who still has a shot left.
Say Random Midget.
Possibly Wingedcatgirl, though I'm fairly null on her, so I'd rather go somewhere more suspicious.
Since my main reason for Arcwing being on my shoot list, was his complete lack of usefulness, I'm for letting his replacement show up.
Stefan's list about not_mafia associations seems sound enough. Even the point about me was basically factual. I was however not intending to defend him, but just trying to understand why he should die.
Most of who he says cannot be scum with not_mafia are town read by me (and many others). Momrangal is the only exception, but still a valid point. If she's scum, she's probably GRITS not the other one.
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 7:46 pm
by Iconeum
willing to shoot in random/screen right now. Seeing how the first BP flipped scum, I'm willing to test the others as well. If the second flips scum too, we will have that information.
Props to those who are treating this like an actual game, but there are still far too many people alive for me to do this properly.
fp'd by thebrie
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 7:57 pm
by TheBrie
What does f'pd mean?
Even if a second BP flips scum, we shouldn't substitute that for actual reads.
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 8:59 pm
by Iconeum
fast posted
like post ninja'ed
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 10:05 pm
by TheBrie
Ahh.
Well we can only shoot one each, so there's no problem?
On an unrelated note, has anyone read anything about a night kill existing?
Someone mentioned it a while back, but I haven't seen any evidence?
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 10:11 pm
by TheBrie
Ahh.
Well we can only shoot one each, so there's no problem?
On an unrelated note, has anyone read anything about a night kill existing?
Someone mentioned it a while back, but I haven't read it anywhere.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 12:09 am
by StefanB
the non-traitor members of the non-town factions will know how many traitors their faction has. each night, each non-town faction will receive a kill to be performed by one of the non-traitor members; if they target one of their own traitors with this, that player will instead be converted to a non-traitor member. during the day, kills happen one at a time (meaning that if someone else has submitted a kill, you can't submit another one until the first role flips).
From post zero in the signuptread. Some of the rules also hint at the night.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 12:26 am
by Iconeum
Can we just start shooting all the BP's? There's like 99% chance of hitting scum (or traitor) in there. Did anyone make a list of all BP so far?
If not, i'll get to that tomorrow.
Once listed we can order them from scum to town, and start killing the scumplayers on that list.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 12:46 am
by TheBrie
@StefanB Thanks. I knew there was some mention of a night phase, but wasn't sure beyond that.
BPs are Momrangal, Random Midget, Srceenplay, and the Worst. Given that I read the Worst as town, I put chance of hitting scum when shooting BPs at no more than 75%.
Has anyone here played with the Worst? I played Everyone is a Serial Killer with him, but that's probably the worst place to gain an impression of someone's play. Not that I know anyone else better or have done research on anyone, but I feel slightly biased.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 12:57 am
by Iconeum
Referencing a non-mafia game (it was mish mash) to compare an actual game of mafia is the worst.
I also townread the worst.
I'd definitely be willing to take another shot at Screen here