mini 2013: the chorus of i'll call b4 i cum mafia (all done)

[UnaBombaH]

..I feel so powerless when Kokichi embarrasses me like this..
And I'd like to feel powerful from time to time.
UNVOTE:

[Morality]

It was pinging me that he just accepted the fact Tchill was scum without parsing the guilty or asking any questions but I think I'm just getting excited

So this means the last maf actually just submitted no kill last night. how do people feel about that..?

This leans towards Ruby town.

Otter is the last scum.

[the worst]

right that was my intuition as well

VOTE: Lucky Otter

[LuckyOtter]

Nope.

I dunno. The game was progressing, and I didn't mind where it was going so I just sat back. I didn't know what the weak meant, that's a big help.

Yes, I'm a newbie doobie.

I didn't know what it meant at first either but it took me all of a few minutes to figure it out on the wiki. It was super duper clear, if you were paying any attention, that the weak part was important.
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Morality, I really, really don't get why you read this as not possibly coming from scum, or why you're so certain all 3 scum were on the Dunn wagon:

Siv. Anything else you want to say about it?

Eh..not feeling so great about lynching Dunn. I agree, he hasn't helped town very much, but he also hasn't done anything

that

scummy fmpov. I think he might flip town.

At least, I think he should unload his thoughts on the game before he goes.

Koki is going to quick-hammer dunn. He's at L-1.

Performer is clearly scum so SIV--can you be the voice of my conscience?

Err, I don't make a good Jiminy cricket.

I'm just thinking that it's probably better Dunn gets lynched than we hit deadline with a mislynch. There's very little townie about Dunn, but then again, I don't think he's done anything confirmed scum either.

I worry if we really did enough for d1 and if there could be something important we'll miss right around the corner. Maybe give dunn just a little time to write his last comment before we let him go.

VOTE: Performer

L-2

This trajectory doesn’t come from scum. All signs point towards that Dunn wagon having 3 scum on it.

[SIV36]

I didn't know what it meant at first either but it took me all of a few minutes to figure it out on the wiki. It was super duper clear, if you were paying any attention, that the weak part was important.

I'm a skimmy-ish reader. It has it's benefits, but I also miss crucial details sometimes. I wiki'd it too, but only stopped at vendors giving players a fruit.
I really was clueless on day 2.

[SIV36]

Performer has been on my radar since post 92. Performer, you never answered my questions in post 170.

Also, your vote on SIV feels disingenuous. If you were following along, I made it pretty clear I was trying to get some particular responses from SIV, which were provided. Did you not like them? Why not?

Just because someone doesn't share your town reads doesn't merit a vote. If scum, what does SIV stand to benefit from giving a town read on MariaR?

VOTE: performer

I feel like koki is an easy lynch and performer took the bait. Koki reads to me like unhelpful town.
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Performer, my question in 170: You said you didn't understand the profii wagon, and that tw 'and others' were on the wagon for no reason, then you voted tw. So the question is why tw and not one of the others (specifically, unabombah, who joined the profii wagon after tw and before your vote)? I don't see that answer anywhere so if you can point it out, do so. All I can see is that you said that you didn't like tw's posts. Your only read of Una so far is in 311.

Also, "Wagoning is good" (315). What? You voted tw just because he was on a wagon you didn't understand.
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Koki, do you have reads on anyone else? If you really are convinced profii is scum, who would be likely partners?

Just looking through LuckyOtter's interactions with Performer to see if I can see any clue of them being scum together. But it really doesn't look like it's the case.

[SIV36]

I didn't know what it meant at first either but it took me all of a few minutes to figure it out on the wiki. It was super duper clear, if you were paying any attention, that the weak part was important.

I'm a skimmy-ish reader. It has it's benefits, but I also miss crucial details sometimes. I wiki'd it too, but only stopped at vendors giving players a fruit.
I really was clueless on day 2.

Also, I'm actually a little clueless in general.

[SIV36]

Ok I claim that I'm maybe a VT

Shame on you.

VOTE: Kokichi - I usually defend you whenever people feel you are "too scummy to be scum", but I really really dislike it at this point.
Enough to be ready for a policylynch even.

..I feel so powerless when Kokichi embarrasses me like this..
And I'd like to feel powerful from time to time.
UNVOTE:

This is going to sound like a really weird question, but... what made you feel embarassed? Did you even think koki was scum when you voted him?

[LuckyOtter]

Ugh scum!siv doesn't benefit at all defending me here.

UNVOTE: . Need to rethink.

[SIV36]

It was pinging me that he just accepted the fact Tchill was scum without parsing the guilty or asking any questions but I think I'm just getting excited

So this means the last maf actually just submitted no kill last night. how do people feel about that..?

This leans towards Ruby town.

Otter is the last scum.

What happened to the marvelous, irrefutable, 'break-the-game' thingy you had promised?

[Kokichi Oma]

Ugh scum!siv doesn't benefit at all defending me here.

UNVOTE: . Need to rethink.

yes he does, cred for later. he's last mafia. needs as much cred as possible.

[SIV36]

It was pinging me that he just accepted the fact Tchill was scum without parsing the guilty or asking any questions but I think I'm just getting excited

So this means the last maf actually just submitted no kill last night. how do people feel about that..?

This leans towards Ruby town.

Otter is the last scum.

What happened to the marvelous, irrefutable, 'break-the-game' thingy you had promised?

I'm probably coming off as snarky, and don't mean to be. Looking back, I guess you did outline your thoughts, but I'm a little confused on how you town-read Unabombah.

[SIV36]

Ugh scum!siv doesn't benefit at all defending me here.

UNVOTE: . Need to rethink.

yes he does, cred for later. he's last mafia. needs as much cred as possible.

Ok, now I'm just shaking my head. That's just...wow.

I'm seriously bewildered if you are serious or just joking? What is the mechanisms and background wiring for all this? How do you work? Are you just our friendly neighborhood troll? Just....whyyyyyyyyyyyy??????

[the worst]

koki is very easy to vote even when you don't scumread him tbh

[Kokichi Oma]

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy??!!??????????

[the worst]

we want to vote you for president :]

[SIV36]

So, I'm looking in Koki's operating manual. The first warning says, "Don't ignore Kokichi". Then in the next chapter, it says "...for best results, one must always give kokichi attention."

But seriously, it would be nice to know how koki comes up with his suspicions. And why don't they ever waver?

[Morality]

Ugh scum!siv doesn't benefit at all defending me here.

UNVOTE: . Need to rethink.

Need to rethink how to win that scum wincon?

[UnaBombaH]

This is going to sound like a really weird question, but... what made you feel embarassed? Did you even think koki was scum when you voted him?

Yea, it was a joke..
No, didn't think they were scum, I was just annoyed at the time for them not wanting to claim.

[UnaBombaH]

I see that we have two "opposing sides as of now", so...we lynch one first and the other...second?

[UnaBombaH]

(and I still think Otter was the most solid town for me D1, so not sure what to think now that we have Otter vs Siv for the lynch..? )

[Azurit]

I'm busy. Have to reread the worst later, but can't promise that I'll be able to, because of my lack of time.

@Morality: I did not get why there must be all scum players on the same person, too. Yeah, it is possible, but why are you sure they're not voting someone else?

[Morality]

I'm busy. Have to reread the worst later, but can't promise that I'll be able to, because of my lack of time.

@Morality: I did not get why there must be all scum players on the same person, too. Yeah, it is possible, but why are you sure they're not voting someone else?

I’ve definitely explained this, I feel, and why i think it’s more likely than not.

[SIV36]

VOTE: LuckyOtter L-2

[LuckyOtter]

Awesome, SIV.

Morality, I'm still not super following your logic on SIV. I'm not feeling great about the chances of him being scum but I don't by any means think he is as cleared as you do, so if you can help me understand I can help try to focus attention elsewhere.

Koki actually has a good point, SIV. I've been townread a lot this game and scum could gain some cred avoiding my wagon, especially early on. IF town, SIV really is a more obvious mislynch.

I'm looking over the vote counts again and Azurit looks like a very strong possibility. I need to look at associatives in detail though and can't at the moment, but wanted to get this out there before things move too quickly and I don't get the chance to defend myself. I get that mechanically speaking my D2 was not great, and if you need to clear me out so be it, but at least give me a chance to contribute something before I go. I'll be on later tonight.