Open 731: Twin Trap (Game Over)

[Wh4t]

Great posting Pose!

When you flip BuJaber is conf. Scum.

[Wh4t]

Err..the last sentence was a Pedit. And that's if Tor flips town which seems unlikely at this point.

[Poseidon]

Great posting Pose!

Spoiler:

But seriously, I don't like A50's behavior at all.

[Toranaga]

Great posting Pose!

When you flip BuJaber is conf. Scum.

bujaber can only get lynched with a tracker counterclaim and that will only happen in lylo after I flip. he is not scum because he lied about his NA.

[Wh4t]

Lol yeah. I'm happy going either A50 or Burger if Tor flips red.

[BuJaber]

Maybe it's burger then. Hard to say. He could have been artificially blowing up the size of his posts.

[Poseidon]

I still wanna hear if there's any counter claims from our remaining players. Burger might take a bit; but we still have Egg and A50 to weigh in.

[Wh4t]

Town BuJaber wouldn't pull that gambit ime. He's either tracker or scum.

[Toranaga]

pretty sure he is tracker

[Poseidon]

Town BuJaber wouldn't pull that gambit ime. He's either tracker or scum.

Not pointing the finger against Bu, but wouldn’t a town lynch today damn near solidify a scum win?

Down to
4 VT
1 PR
2 Scum

Lynch a townie, we’re down to 3 town 2 scum. And then it’s LyLo.
We really do need to be 100% on this vote today.

[Poseidon]

pretty sure he is tracker

Is that scumclaim?

[Wh4t]

Town BuJaber wouldn't pull that gambit ime. He's either tracker or scum.

Not pointing the finger against Bu, but wouldn’t a town lynch today damn near solidify a scum win?

Down to
4 VT
1 PR
2 Scum

Lynch a townie, we’re down to 3 town 2 scum. And then it’s LyLo.

It's no biggie if Tor flips town because then we lynch Bu and the following Lylo should be pretty black and white when town considers the NKs and reasons about who would leave the remaing townies as scum.

Lynch Town today > NK > 3T:2S > Lynch Bu > NK > 2T:1S.

If Bu is town, as well as Tor (99% sure this is not the case) then he pulled the worst gambit possible and is responsible for game throwing.

[Poseidon]

Hence why I want to wait for a potential counter claim; because you're right in saying that he's either Tracker or Scum. So if there's a counter claim, we have some discussing to do.

Otherwise, let's light up the

Tor

-ches *giggles*

[Wh4t]

Lmao.

[Toranaga]

pretty sure he is tracker

Is that scumclaim?

I don't think bujaber would either out himself as mafia just to get me lynched, or out actual town PR as VT

[Toranaga]

either way this loss is not on me

leshrug

[Egg]

Very busy today. I see we have a guilty though. Tor Lynch is the way to go.

[GameNBurger]

Yayyyyy

This game is on low priority for me into Csets are taken so having an easy day 2 works great for me

I was worried when Fromage was found but looks like the odds payed off and Buj correctly guessed

I guess I can’t play Night Kill bait anymore since the roles are out there now

Unless I’m missing someone in my memory of whose in this game A50 is the only player left who could possibly counterclaim

If you guys really wanted to be nice I’d appreciate the day last until I can get some comprehensive read posts done later this week, as unfortunately real life is taking away from my time right now

I see no reason for the day to end since the night kill will simply be put on Buj tonight so we might as well run down the clock while Buj is with us and conf town

To try and ding last scum while Buj is still alive

[GameNBurger]

And no I don’t have reads right now, I prefer to formulate reads by relooking at everything with the confirmed town and scum we have right now

[BuJaber]

Everyone should try to reread and formulate some new reads.

That said I think town's strongest remaining tool is the info they get from scum NK.

IF you guys mislynch on day 3 try not to make it too obvious who you think is obvtown.

It would be really bad if the at lylo we have 3 people that everyone heavily suspects, you know what I mean?

Like for example if Eragon was still alive he would be someone you want scum to NK.

The only exception I would say is A50. If he is not NK'd you lynch him at lylo-1.

I fully trust he can find last scum if he is town. But if he is scum I don't want him alive at lylo.

[Almost50]

A50 you have some explaining to do about your sudden confidence in Eragon being scum.

I did lay down my case on him. At first I thought he was playing like a PR (which explains why I hard TR'd him on the first half of D1). My 2 "other" candidates were BuJ & Fromage (bit only one of them I thought) so I'm fine with my TRs (even if I did reverse the one on Eragon).

When I did my reread I realized Eragon wasn't playing exactly as a TPR either, so I kinds saw his content with a different perspective. Probably a play style thing now that I know he was Town.

And once again my "principles" prove correct. We should have hammered Tor. If you like, go back and reread Eragon with the knowledge Tor IS scum and you will see how he would have been today's main suspect still if you had listened to me and lynched Tor upon his VT claim.

Btw, Tor is @L-1 in theory. I won;t be placing my vote on him now so he won't come in and hammer himself, but my vote is there in spirit.

I thought there was at least one scum on Fromage. Tor is scum. Eragon is Town. Wh4t is my 2md strongest living TR (now that BuJ has claimed), and I'm not sure about Poseidon.

In fact, if you're arguing Poseidon is Town bc he kept his vote on a claimed PR then Egg is Town for keeping his vote on Toranaga.

Check this out:
Inferno390 (4): Almost50,

ManateeDude,

Poseidon, GameNBurger (L-1)
Toranaga (4):

Eragon,

Egg,

BuJaber,

Wh4t (L-1)

If what is Town then why wouldn't Egg join the wagon on Manatee? But more importantly, why would he be more interested in joining Toranaga's wagon??

From that same VC

Wh4t (2): Toranaga, Poseidon
Toranaga (4): Eragon, Egg, BuJaber, Wh4t (L-1)
GameNBurger (2): Fromage, Almost50

Not Voting (1): GameNBurger

So Poseidon was next to Tor on Wh4t (an attempt to save Tor), and GnB was not voting (sometimes they just wait and hope their p won't get lynched).

So I say Egg is the towniest of the 3, and the other scum is between Poseidon/GnB

@BuJ: Mate, I had you as a string TR for the whole of D1. When you insisted I was scummy I thought you mistook me for a PR and was trying to protect me from the NK by keeping me in the lynch pool. Right now I don't understand why you still think I'm scummy after the flips and the confirmation you yourself got that Tor is indeed scum and should have been lynched.

[Toranaga]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efc7njKAfgo[/youtube]

[Toranaga]

[Toranaga]

BLACK HOLE SUN

WON'T YOU COME

AND WASH AWAY THE RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN

[Almost50]

VOTE: almost50

lynch bujaber tomorrow

@BuJ: Like this alone should give you pause. He thinks one of us id the other PR but doesn't know which, so he put me ahead of you in a an attempt to get a claim!