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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:51 am
by DVa
I am not
You are voting me
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:52 am
by DVa
Gamma is town
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:53 am
by skitter30
idk
a general lack of towniness
i've never really felt that she's *into* this game, or that her solving feels real
like her posts just feel spiritless/going-through-the-motions to me
like she's posting more to avoid a prod than to solve the game if that makes sense
In post 972, DVa wrote:She at one point was asking a lot of empty questions which pinged me but I've been thinking about the merits of various towncases on her
as i said about eight billion times now, the point of those questions was to try to get people to just like ... post anything
yes they were shallow, but i was using them to just draw people back into the game and do ... something, and not to necessarily sort them (cuz being present kinda helps with sorting)
p-edit makes sense coming from you given what you think about my blindspots in my townplay, but not a particularly good reason to heal me; def think i can fake that imo
i think you healed me a little too easily imo
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:54 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 949, Irrelephant11 wrote:hi! I wasn't gonna play coalition twice, but I just like schadd and the playerlist so much and it would be really great to win this setup with the coalition twice
Hmmmm
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:54 am
by Irrelephant11
oh lollll I am voting you huh
UNVOTE:
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:55 am
by Irrelephant11
oh good a wild gamma appeared! I might actually sort the whole playerlist in one sitting at this rate
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:58 am
by DVa
That and her reads of me and Gamma seem lazy
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:00 am
by Gamma Emerald
So I’m thinking Irrel’s “oh winning through coalition twice would be fun” is a little bit extravagant and LAMIST
I’m aware I said something to the same effect but mine wasn’t as unprompted as his as DVa asked my alignment
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:02 am
by skitter30
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:04 am
by Irrelephant11
In post 977, skitter30 wrote:p-edit makes sense coming from you given what you think about my blindspots in my townplay, but not a particularly good reason to heal me; def think i can fake that imo
i think you healed me a little too easily imo
right answer, I think
I was expecting "makes sense" + probably pushback on the weakness of the read, but without me having to ask for it
eh your response here is still the right answer, you just don't get as many points because I had to ask for it
I actually read/skimmed a lot of your ISO before doing much else. I thought moments like your early nsg heal, your "townread dependent on your identity" with the robot + "robot holding onto the gimmick is towny" (not the strongest reasoning but you said something similar last coalition game), and your self-consciousness about making a coalition that was maybe-overly-dependent-on-activity-as-a-townread were all good reasons to townread you
I didn't like 826, but nothing else pinged me (keeping in mind I was only reading like every third post fully, skimming two, etc)
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:05 am
by Irrelephant11
In post 982, Gamma Emerald wrote:
So I’m thinking Irrel’s “oh winning through coalition twice would be fun” is a little bit extravagant and LAMIST
I’m aware I said something to the same effect but mine wasn’t as unprompted as his as DVa asked my alignment
good thing I wrote other posts huh
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:05 am
by Irrelephant11
can the scumteam be yuriko+not_mafia
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:07 am
by DVa
So why did you start the game by isoing skitter?
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:07 am
by DVa
Seems optimistic but not impossible
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:08 am
by Irrelephant11
we've played together lots of times, including the last iteration of this setup (where we won together by being in the coalition together)
It felt like a good place to start
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:09 am
by Irrelephant11
it's how the last run went! We all PoE'd down to two lurky scum, got paranoid about it for a bit ("scum would be towntelling all over the place, not sitting on their hands!") and then it was still just them
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:10 am
by Irrelephant11
I wonder if, counter to the paranoid-sort-of-intuition this setup breeds, scum are actually just as scummy in this setup as in any other setup
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:10 am
by Irrelephant11
I will feel good about having that thought if it's yuriko+NM
in the meantime I guess I shouldn't settle for those reads and call it a solve yet
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:11 am
by DVa
Do you plan to read from rvs or are you just doing isos? Not a criticism either way just wondering
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:12 am
by skitter30
In post 982, Gamma Emerald wrote:
So I’m thinking Irrel’s “oh winning through coalition twice would be fun” is a little bit extravagant and LAMIST
I’m aware I said something to the same effect but mine wasn’t as unprompted as his as DVa asked my alignment
tbh this makes me think you said that with the intent of trying to look townie
(ie you're approaching this as - someone saying this is scummy, but not when *I* do it! - kinda feels like you think actually saying like this is scummy and feel the need to defend saying it yourself; tbh you saying something along these lines was long enough ago that idk if anybody would have brought it up here)
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:13 am
by Irrelephant11
In post 959, Irrelephant11 wrote:Heal because
In post 344, skitter30 wrote:if not i dont' have a solid read on you really; i'm *slightly* tending town but i'm having trouble telling whether or not that's stemming from thinking you make sense
oh and the reason this is a good reason to townread skitter is because in a recent game we lost together (to scum!nsg) I pointed out postgame that skitter couldn't catch scum!nsg because nsg was being logical and making sense, even though the "making sense" was more indicative of nsg's scum agenda than of her being town
skitter being self-reflective about "oh no am I doing that thing irrelephant pointed out?" in a game I'm not in (no incentive to callback to our previous conversation for my sake) is towny
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:15 am
by Irrelephant11
I think yuriko healing tesxx on like page 2 was partner-indicative, btw, I'm not just pulling yuriko+nm out of nowhere or just based on activity
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:16 am
by skitter30
i mean tbf it's a blindspot that i know i have that i've acknowledged before having that convo with you (it's how i lost a couple of towngames about a year ago that i'm still a little annoyed about)
but yeah i was thinking about it there because of the ending of taz mafia which happened after this game started
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:19 am
by Irrelephant11
right the timing was relevant
I just checked and our conversation & you saying it here were less than a week apart
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:22 am
by Irrelephant11
I think the probabilities for dva & gamma's alignments rn are t/t --> s/t --------> s/s -----> t/s
skitter, agree/disagree?