In post 971, Adorable wrote:It didn't look like Phone claimed Cop and if he really is a Cop, then he shouldn't have done that as his first post. If Temp really is the Cop, then I think he would have reacted to Phone's post which he actually did. Wheme subs in for Phone and if Wheme is the real Cop, he would have voted Temp for claiming Cop but he did not do that and instead he votes Cyan.
Doesnt really matter, none of you bothered to ask him questions. Hes gone now, and we know there is one liar.
this interaction is really odd. I'm not sure what to make of this, but it almost feels like cyrus is just feeding thespio the answers he wants to hear
lets play the game then, you are cop, you get pressured before you even use your role, its mid day, meaning no rush to kill anyone. theres a risk you could get hammered by scum the moment you give up your role, do you claim VT, refuse to claim, or claim your PR?
Ultimately depends on how much pressure I’m under. I wouldn’t say scum could get away with hammering that slot at that point in time though
I would only ever claim pr d1 if I felt like there was no other option
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:51 am
by Thespio
In post 977, osuka wrote:Ultimately depends on how much pressure I’m under. I wouldn’t say scum could get away with hammering that slot at that point in time though
I would only ever claim pr d1 if I felt like there was no other option
Answer my of questions real quick:
who benefits from a fake cop claim?
who benefits from a Counter claim?
Why would you claim Cop over VT D1 if a PR claim helps scum?
Normally I would believe the counter claim. When I first saw Phone's first post, it didn't look like he claimed Cop and it looked like he was joking but now when I start to think about it if Phone is scum, he might have done that claim to get a reaction from a player who could be a Cop and Temp reacted to Phone's post and Temp claimed Cop when he had 4 votes. If I was the real Cop who had 4 votes about to get lynched, I would have also probably claimed Cop and I would expect the Doctor to protect me at night and fake claiming Vanilla Town instead of the Cop would have most likely gotten me lynched.
I think you are wrong here, and if you look at any game in my record where a D1 power roll was put at L1 you will see them constantly claim VT because there is no advantage to claiming cop. if there is a mafia rollcop then hes dead and they will know that, if theres a blocker theres a 50/50 chance hes dead. so basically hes rolling the dice and preying, if he claims VT we continue on our pressure spread and push for inconsistencies as the game is played.
I find it very odd you think him not reacting to the fake claim and making a nonsense claim is good towny behavior.
Temp's reaction to Phone's claim was on #43. Where I come from, a real Cop always claims Cop when they are about to get lynched and most of the time when I see a player claim Vanilla Townie, they end up getting lynched.
In post 977, osuka wrote:Ultimately depends on how much pressure I’m under. I wouldn’t say scum could get away with hammering that slot at that point in time though
I would only ever claim pr d1 if I felt like there was no other option
do you feel like he had no other option?
I’m not sure. I just can’t see myself in that situation, because I don’t make a habit of actively trying to get myself lynched as a PR zone the first day
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:59 am
by osuka
like all in all, I don’t think his claim is the worst part of it all by any measure. There are many other aspects to his game that irk me much worse than that claim ever could. See his tone, his pushes, his arguments and his defense to other people’s pushes
the fact that he didn’t immediately push phone should tell you a lot more than whatever panic claim he did
In post 977, osuka wrote:Ultimately depends on how much pressure I’m under. I wouldn’t say scum could get away with hammering that slot at that point in time though
I would only ever claim pr d1 if I felt like there was no other option
do you feel like he had no other option?
I’m not sure. I just can’t see myself in that situation, because I don’t make a habit of actively trying to get myself lynched as a PR zone the first day
Good goal, ill give you a hint, as someone whos been around the block quite a few times, experienced players dont claim PR because it doesnt help anyone who is good
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:04 am
by Adorable
I thought Phone was just joking when he claimed Cop and I didn't believe his claim. Wheme subs in for Phone and if he was the Cop, it would have made more sense if he voted Temp but he voted Cyan instead.
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:12 am
by Thespio
In post 983, Adorable wrote:I thought Phone was just joking when he claimed Cop and I didn't believe his claim. Wheme subs in for Phone and if he was the Cop, it would have made more sense if he voted Temp but he voted Cyan instead.
Right, your full of it, he didnt hard claim cop until a few posts ago, and he hasnt posted anything about the cop claim. so making assertions like that isnt really logical. Lets just ask him, why did his slot claim cop? is it valid? because his only post isnt about Lich being a cop, its about lich being a PR. because he claimed PR not cop.
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:13 am
by Thespio
Im just seeing adorable make excuses for Lich, and Lich disappeared when I applied pressure. BTW he was on for 30 minutes after I started questioning him, so I say you both are running the clock. If I dont die tonight Im pushing both of you.
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:28 am
by Thespio
In post 981, osuka wrote:the fact that he didn’t immediately push phone should tell you a lot more than whatever panic claim he did
Both point the same way IMO, both tell me he isnt cop.
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:56 am
by Baezu
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:00 am
by Baezu
Day 1 had ended in a No Lynch.
Night 1 begins. Please submit your actions to me by PM. Night 1 will end in (expired on 2019-07-19 12:00:00)
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:35 am
by Baezu
eth0s replaces Thespio
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:50 am
by Baezu
Cyan Talon has died! he was a
Spoiler:
Town Doctor
day 2 begins
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:42 am
by Spangled
Everyone, TL’s lack of death might be scum trying to make us WIFOM.
Or it might not.
TL, what did you do that night?
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:54 am
by Spangled
Also, osuka, I would have killed you in that situation every time, as you are the only one scumreading me so far.
@mod Sera also needs replacing
Where did she request replacement? I must have missed that
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:02 am
by cyrus62
i was also scumm reading you spanglead
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:03 am
by cyrus62
your votes manage to get 2 prs to out them selfs on day 1 and now ones dead
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:10 am
by Spangled
In post 994, cyrus62 wrote:your votes manage to get 2 prs to out them selfs on day 1 and now ones dead
In post 932, Thespio wrote:yeah my vote isnt moving, You are not cop, My guess is there is a mafia RB, and you are claiming a role that exists 2/3 of the time. you want a CC so you can RB the cop. and kill someone else, effectively canceling out the cop. You are likely not the RB, as you made the claim.
Post 893 has some information that would argue otherwise.
anyway, consider what i'm implying behind my statement. it would tell you that there likely isn't a Mafia RB if TL is lying with his cop claim
what are you implying? that you are a PR too? because if you are stop. Otherwise you are willing to accept a claim, even though a fake one has already been made. Are you not curious why a PR wouldnt interrogate a fake claim, or atleast ask them a question? also why hard claim when no one asks for it? we had a soft claim, it satisfied everyone apparently up to this point, why be explicit?
Said fakeclaim was most likely an obvious attempt at a joke. I'm not sure how you seem to be seeing it, but it doesn't look like a claim people would take very seriously. He didn't interrogate it because he thought Phone was fucking around, plain and simple.
And yes, I am willing to accept this claim. I hinted at myself being PR because I was (and still am) in danger of being lynched. There's also the point you made that he decided to hardclaim out of the blue; need I tell you that he was being pushed by
you?
He implied in his claim that he shifted to a hardclaim because you were pushing him.